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To: rightgrafix
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2 posted on
08/17/2006 5:31:50 AM PDT by
Lurker
(I support Israel without reservation. Hizbollah must be destroyed to the last man.)
To: rightgrafix
It just means less white flags to ship.
3 posted on
08/17/2006 5:32:12 AM PDT by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: rightgrafix
4 posted on
08/17/2006 5:33:15 AM PDT by
BenLurkin
("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
To: rightgrafix
Not surprising- they're only symbolic for France, too...
5 posted on
08/17/2006 5:33:31 AM PDT by
SE Mom
(Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
To: rightgrafix
Let me try to understand this...:
Will this be the SAME UN "force" that transported Hezbollah and Hamas fighters and weapons in their ambulances?
6 posted on
08/17/2006 5:34:13 AM PDT by
13Sisters76
("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
To: rightgrafix
Lest we forget the Italians:
Italy says UN force will not disarm Hizbullah
Italian soldiers in a planned UN Force for Lebanon will not be expected to disarm Hizbullah but to help the Lebanese army impose its authority, said Italy's foreign minister in a magazine interview.
"It is wrong to say that our soldiers are going to disarm Hizbullah," Massimo D'Alema told L'Espresso in an interview made available to Reuters a day ahead of publication on Friday. A UN-brokered truce on Monday halted a 34-day war between the Jewish state and the Iranian-backed group in which more than
1,100 people in Lebanon, mostly civilians, were killed. (Reuters)
(08.17.06, 15:10)
To: rightgrafix
Israel lost. Syria won. Iran won. Terrorism won.
But the war's not a total loss. We at least get one more opportunity to laugh at the French.
8 posted on
08/17/2006 5:36:52 AM PDT by
samtheman
To: rightgrafix
You should consider that all the French are really capable of is 'symbolic' force.
Interesting...After the French track record in Algeria, no one a with real concern for peace in the area should want to see a French uniform anywhere near an Arab.
French brutality finally united the Algerians and forced them into their rabid nationalism. It is probably the cornerstone of most Muslim hatred for the west, if any one wants to calculate when modern Anti Western politics emerged in the area. (Middle Eastern anti-Semitism aside)
9 posted on
08/17/2006 5:39:11 AM PDT by
SMARTY
("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
To: rightgrafix
It just means that of the 15000 man Lebanese force rushing as we speak to vacated IDF positions, 14999.75 will be Hezbola.
You did a great job Condi !!!
To: rightgrafix
Once again, France's perfidy ensures a bad outcome. There is no way -
NO WAY - that France should continue to lead UNIFIL.
What the hell was the Administration thinking when they joined in with France on the "cease fire"??? Talk about a waving red flag with bells, whistles and an ear-splitting siren. [expletives deleted]
Despite the MSM spin, I know our leaders are not that stupid, so there had to be some really, really bad stuff going down over there. My guess is that the missing WMD are in fact not missing and the Hezzies made it clear through back channels of what their death throes might be. That is the only rational explanation for this cluster ... er, flop of a cease fire.
To paraphrase Hackman's Brill character, "Israel, if you're still around in 2 years I'll be very impressed."
11 posted on
08/17/2006 5:43:32 AM PDT by
NonValueAdded
(Tom Gallagher - the anti-Crist [FL Governor, 2006 primary])
To: rightgrafix
The real question is, What will the Lebanese Army and UNIFIL do when the Hezzies start firing Katusha's over their heads into Israel? They have already said they won't confront them, so what is really the point. Olmert is an idiot.
12 posted on
08/17/2006 5:43:55 AM PDT by
ritewingwarrior
(Where does free speech end, and sedition begin?)
To: rightgrafix
France considers only symbolic force for UNA new world record for France: Surrender in advance.
13 posted on
08/17/2006 5:44:48 AM PDT by
catpuppy
To: rightgrafix
France is considering providing only a symbolic force for the United Nations contingent in Lebanon... No kidding?
14 posted on
08/17/2006 5:45:31 AM PDT by
mcar
To: rightgrafix
To: rightgrafix
Prediction: UNIFIL will not materialize and this whole UN scheme will fall flat on its face (which it should!).
The French know that any force they put in there will have bullseyes on them.
16 posted on
08/17/2006 5:54:25 AM PDT by
Rummyfan
To: rightgrafix
Hey France, I have a symbol for you.
17 posted on
08/17/2006 5:55:24 AM PDT by
duckman
(I refuse to use a tag line...I mean it.)
To: rightgrafix
Why should France commit troops to Lebanon? They managed to get to pretend they were one of the word's heavy hitters by getting their name linked to the US as a deal broker, they got to preen and strut at the UN and to get a few brownie points with their old ex colonies and to boast that they still are a world power.
They got what they wanted out of the situation and from committing troops onward it would be all downside.
Besides, if the UN force turns out to be ineffectual because it hasn't sufficient troops, it fits their own aims of weakening Israel and hog tying any future US action to the UN where they know they can stall it indefinitely.
I'm afraid that Olmerts lack of resolve has seriously damaged Israel's reputation and emboldened it's enemies while Rice, who it appears has been listening to her State Dept. appeasement advisor's, has undermined her credibility and damaged the President with her bad advice to accept the deal.
This situation was a golden opportunity for Bush to implement his "preemptive" policy by using Isreal's foray into Lebanon as a way to go after Hezbollah's backers in Syria and Iran. Adroitly managed, Syria and Iran could have been drawn into the Lebanese conflict and provided an excuse for the US to intervene.
All wasted now.
The bottom line, it seems to me, is that the MSM have made it politically impossible for Bush to go after Iran after completely undermining his efforts in Iraq. From now on he will avoid any future Middle East initiatives and, short of a nuclear attack by Iran on US or Israel, will leave any future actions in that region to the next President to deal with.
To: rightgrafix
Perhaps the French NAVY could help out in Lebanon instead?
Oops. That's another non-starter.
The new French nuclear carrier "Charles de Gaulle" has suffered from a seemingly endless string of problems since it was first conceived in 1986. The 40,000 ton ship has cost over four billion dollars so far and is slower than the steam powered carrier it replaced. Flaws in the "de Gaulle" have led it to using the propellers from it's predecessor, the "Foch," because the ones built for "de Gaulle" never worked right and the propeller manufacturer went out of business in 1999. Worse, the nuclear reactor installation was done poorly, exposing the engine crew to five times the allowable annual dose of radiation.
There were also problems with the design of the deck, making it impossible to operate the E-2 radar aircraft that are essential to defending the ship and controlling offensive operations. Many other key components of the ship did not work correctly, including several key electronic systems. The carrier has been under constant repair and modification.
The "de Gaulle" took eleven years to build (1988-99) and was not ready for service until late 2000. It's been downhill ever since. The de Gaulle is undergoing still more repairs and modifications. The government is being sued for exposing crew members to dangerous levels of radiation.
The cause of the problems can be traced to the decision to install nuclear reactors designed for French submarines, instead of spending more money and designing reactors specifically for the carrier. Construction started and stopped several times because of cuts to the defense budget and when construction did resume, there was enormous pressure on the builders to get on with it quickly, and cheaply, before the project was killed. The result was a carrier with a lot of expensive problems.
So the plan is to buy into the new British carrier building program and keep the "de Gaulle" in port and out of trouble as much as possible. The British have a lot more experience building carriers, and if there are any problems with the British designed ship, the French can blame the British.
From "How Not To Build An Aircraft Carrier"
- James Dunnigan - December 7, 2003
http://www.strategypage.com/dls/articles/2003127.asp
19 posted on
08/17/2006 5:58:25 AM PDT by
mkjessup
(The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
To: rightgrafix
France is considering providing only a symbolic force for the United Nations contingent in Lebanon, and not the thousands of troops UN officials had hoped, Le Monde newspaper said on Thursday. And I'm sure that Hezbollah will be greatly impressed and even intimidated by this "symbolic force." Looks like Israel has really let itself get screwed by going along with this supposed "ceasefire." Heck, it hasn't even been a week, and the key brokers (the U.S. included) are already backtracking, spinning, and renegging on their promises to the Israelis. Bring on Bibi!!!!!
To: rightgrafix
Where's the cartoon of Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown?
And does anyone remember the url for that great site that someone put up about French perfidy sometime after 9/11? It had some very funny stuff.
23 posted on
08/17/2006 6:45:14 AM PDT by
wildbill
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