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Scientists urge deep-sea cure for climate change (bury greenhouse gases under sea floor sediment)
Reuters on Yahoo ^ | 8/15/06 | Jason Szep

Posted on 08/15/2006 3:12:37 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

BOSTON (Reuters) - Climate change could be slowed by burying greenhouse gases blamed for global warming deep below the ocean floor under thick, cold sediment that would trap it for thousands of years, said a team of Harvard-led scientists.

The seafloor along the U.S. east and west coast is vast enough to store almost unlimited carbon dioxide emissions from U.S. coal-fired plants, said Daniel Schrag, director of Harvard's Center for the Environment.

"It would make coal a green fuel," he said in a telephone interview with Reuters.

Carbon dioxide released by burning fossil fuels is the main gas blamed for pushing up world temperatures. Many scientists say the buildup could trigger more floods, droughts, powerful storms, heat waves and rising world sea levels.

Schrag's team at Harvard and researchers at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Columbia University propose capturing carbon dioxide from power plants, liquefying the gas, pumping it about 2 miles under water and then injecting it below the sea floor.

Many governments and firms are already exploring ways to pump carbon dioxide under land or directly into the sea -- a process known as carbon sequestration -- to meet emissions caps set by the U.N.'s Kyoto Protocol for 35 industrial nations.

But such schemes will only help if the gas stays below the ground or the sea for hundreds of years, and studies and experiments to date indicate it may eventually leak.

Schrag said burying the gas under seafloor sediments of sand, silt and clay hundreds of meters (feet) thick at depths of 3,000 meters (9,800 ft) and very low temperatures would guarantee it would stay denser than the water above.

"The only place it can leak is deeper down," he said.

ENVIRONMENTALISTS SKEPTICAL

The cold temperatures and high pressures found deep below the ocean's surface would transform carbon dioxide into a solid that is stable enough to withstand even the most severe earthquakes, the researchers said in the August 7 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Environmental group Greenpeace said it was skeptical of the benefits and urged the development of less expensive and swifter solutions to global warming such as renewable energy and conservation.

"We have real questions about this technology. It is not something that currently works or is tested," said Chris Miller, a senior Greenpeace campaigner. "We have a relatively short amount of time to begin making pretty dramatic reductions in global warming pollutants."

Managing a carbon dioxide sequestration program could also cost hundreds of billions a year, scientists say.

A 2005 U.N. report said carbon dioxide storage may provide 15-55 percent of all the cuts in greenhouse gas emissions needed until 2100 -- probably a bigger contribution than from renewable energies or from any revival of nuclear power.

But it would also likely raise the cost of generating electricity from a coal-fired power plant by at least 50 percent to $0.06-$0.10 per kilowatt hour from $0.04-$0.05 on a power plant with no filters.

"The downsides are that nobody has ever injected into those kinds of formations at those kinds of depths," said Ken Caldeira, a climate scientist at Stanford University. "There are engineering hurdles to overcome and it might not be that cheap," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bubblesinthebathtub; climatechange; cure; deepsea; globalwarming; greenhousegases; scientists; seafloor
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1 posted on 08/15/2006 3:12:38 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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A cloud of waste gas billows out of chimney stacks at a factory in the eastern German village of Heiligengrabe in this June 2, 2004 file photo. Climate change could be slowed by burying greenhouse gases blamed for global warming deep below the ocean floor under thick, cold sediment that would trap it for thousands of years, said a team of Harvard-led scientists. REUTERS/Christian Charisius


2 posted on 08/15/2006 3:13:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

These people are freaking out!

It's a wonder they can function at all.


3 posted on 08/15/2006 3:16:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: NormsRevenge
It would also likely raise the cost of generating electricity from a coal-fired power plant by at least 50 percent

Well, that could be construed as a downside ...

4 posted on 08/15/2006 3:18:51 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ( “I'm the Emperor, and I want dumplings!” (German: Ich bin der Kaiser und will Knödel.))
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To: DoughtyOne

"It's a wonder they can function at all."

They don't, they just burn tax dollars fabricating lies, and then request more funding to do it all over again.


5 posted on 08/15/2006 3:19:07 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: NormsRevenge

Can we bury our forest fires and volcanoes under the sea bed too? Never seen any of these reports that take these into account.


6 posted on 08/15/2006 3:22:25 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: DoughtyOne

LOL.. I can see the bumper stickers in the not too distant future,

Gas people , not the sea floor.

Just kidding, folks.

This whole global warming movement may well be right that the climate may be getting warmer, however, their strident beliefs that it is man made is not in step with facts.

But these days, it's much more convenient to blame people and their evil byproducts than solar cycles , volcanos, and good old Mother Nature changing her stride for a bit.

Oh well.


7 posted on 08/15/2006 3:22:32 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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How much of that cloud is water vapor?


8 posted on 08/15/2006 3:23:36 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: NormsRevenge

Who would ever have thought of putting water vapor in an ocean???


9 posted on 08/15/2006 3:24:27 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: NormsRevenge

Agreed


10 posted on 08/15/2006 3:24:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: dalereed

Exactly!


11 posted on 08/15/2006 3:25:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Bring your press credentials to Qana, for the world's most convincing terrorist street theater.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Some scientists. The gas would escape, just like it does from..................drumroll please.............those polluting bastard volcanoes!


12 posted on 08/15/2006 3:25:26 PM PDT by jw777
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To: NormsRevenge
OMG. Never heard of a "Lake inversion", have they?

Idioten.

13 posted on 08/15/2006 3:25:54 PM PDT by patton (LGOPs = head toward the noise, kill anyone not dressed like you.)
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This is the biggest bunch of bull, on so many points that it's impossible to respond. I'm not a scientist, but sometimes the BS beeber just goes off.


14 posted on 08/15/2006 3:29:07 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: NormsRevenge

Scientists my ass.


15 posted on 08/15/2006 3:30:45 PM PDT by jwh_Denver (I can't beat em but I ain't joining them either.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I am no scientist thats for sure, but can i just ask what type of machine they will use to separate the Carbon Dioxide from the air an how will they put it under the ocean.? What will power this operation? I can see it now a big plant running night and day and large tubes funneling this gas into the ocean floor. Its sounds like a pipe dream to me. The only thing I would bet on is that someone will get rich off it.


16 posted on 08/15/2006 3:36:15 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: NormsRevenge

They'd better hurry up and get started so they can claim credit before the next (inevitable) cooling cycle begins.


17 posted on 08/15/2006 3:38:38 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: NormsRevenge

This might be an opportunity to give moonbats something constructive to do- we can send them out armed with a jeweler's loupe, a pair of fine tweezers and a mason jar apiece- along with instructions to 'collect carbon dioxide molecules for burial at sea'.


18 posted on 08/15/2006 3:39:04 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Unfortunately the idiots at happy hour appear to be swinging the policy bat lately on this debate.

The other articles I've seen today shout "Man-Induced" which is so much crap it's pathetic. We're gonna' get a shaft over this if we're not careful and it's not going to be pleasant...


19 posted on 08/15/2006 3:52:22 PM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: NormsRevenge

I say we bury ALGORE and all his cook friend under the sea floor. Heck I will settle for under a lake.


20 posted on 08/15/2006 3:52:43 PM PDT by xpertskir (Shave the Whales)
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