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Ketamine and Depression
The American Spectator ^ | 8/15/2006 | Michael Fumento

Posted on 08/15/2006 9:48:26 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/15/2006 9:48:27 AM PDT by neverdem
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Isn't Ketamine a disassociative drug? Is it that it really cures depression or is it that you no longer care that you are depressed?

A major complaint with most anti-depressives is that they cause the patient to be emotionally numb.
2 posted on 08/15/2006 9:52:06 AM PDT by msnimje ("Beware the F/A - 22 Raptor with open doors" -- Unknown US NAVY Raptor Pilot)
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To: neverdem

I would comment, but what's the use?


3 posted on 08/15/2006 9:54:24 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: neverdem

Interesting. They need to do a much broader study, 17 people won't cut it. But it's interesting and sounds promising.


4 posted on 08/15/2006 9:54:47 AM PDT by Jaysun (I have the body of an eighteen year old. I keep it in the fridge.)
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To: neverdem

Omega 3 fish oil, modulated breathing technique and excercise will get almost anyone farther than meds.

(I'm no doctor but have seen the above work)


5 posted on 08/15/2006 9:56:43 AM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

That was depressingly funny.


6 posted on 08/15/2006 9:57:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
I would comment, but what's the use?

Indeed. Take it from me friend, save your strength. I'm so exhausted that I can't even lift two cyanide pills to my mouth, much less a revolver.
7 posted on 08/15/2006 9:58:18 AM PDT by Jaysun (I have the body of an eighteen year old. I keep it in the fridge.)
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To: cll

So you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express?


8 posted on 08/15/2006 9:58:39 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

:(


9 posted on 08/15/2006 9:59:19 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: msnimje; neverdem
Yeah. Ketamine is a serious dissociative anesthetic related to PCP (aka Angel Dust). Ketamine is shorter lasting.

Ketamine does have neuroprotective effects, though.

10 posted on 08/15/2006 9:59:43 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: msnimje
Ketamine is also known as "special k" and is revered for its ability to completely $#%& you up. It is commonly used for sedation of animals by veterinarians. It is often stolen from vets in liquid form, cooked down into a white powder, and is either smoked, snorted or turned back into liquid and injected. I am not sure what doses this guys is talking about, but anyone I ever knew that used this stuff was a "tweaker."
11 posted on 08/15/2006 10:00:07 AM PDT by xpertskir (Shave the Whales)
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To: neverdem

Bummer.


12 posted on 08/15/2006 10:01:31 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: neverdem
I wrote an posted some descriptions of my depressive episode. I wrote this this because some FReepers seemed to believe depression doesn't exist or isn't that much of problem. Incidentally I am a qualified psychiatric nurse. I still had no idea of just where depression can take a man.

"Sleep brought a relief from the unremitting tiredness but introduced disturbing dreams. Foul and sickening, the dreams seemed to inhabit me. Sometimes I would awake screaming. They were so intense and crisp and colourful in their clarity. The images inside them were bleak and debasing and degrading. The horrors that life can and does reserve for the unfortunate few were aggregated together for me to gaze upon in seemingly unrelated but disturbing sequences. It was as if I was looking into the recesses of my own black heart and inspecting it’s cadaver and viewing the possible causes of it’s death. As within Mervyn Peake’s Gorhmengast Castle I discovered metaphorical rooms and corridors within me that had been sealed up for years and subsequently forgotten. Entering each one I was witness to degrading occult scenes of pornographic macabre savagery. This nighttime litany of torture and death was preferable to being awake and knowingly alive."
13 posted on 08/15/2006 10:01:52 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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I would comment, but what's the use?

Indeed. Take it from me friend, save your strength.

I'm so exhausted that I can't even lift two cyanide pills to my mouth, much less a revolver

***************

LOL! All right you two, cut it out. This is a serious subject. :)

14 posted on 08/15/2006 10:02:29 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

LOL. My cure for depression: get over it.


15 posted on 08/15/2006 10:02:50 AM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: vimto

Sounds soooo familiar. It's like the world is grey, sounds are muted and everything either hurts too much or you feel nothing. It's like the volume control on feelings has been snapped off...

And yeah, why is it that those with clinical depression always are related to a moron who says 'well, why don't you just think happy thoughts?'

Sure! I'll do the same for my broken leg too!


16 posted on 08/15/2006 10:05:13 AM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

you disgust me sir for your insensitive sarcasm.
/snarcasm
Why is it people are so much quicker at these witty ripastes than I am?
Let me see... Special K? or X? The kids have been telling me how great they work.
Never mind, the FDA won't let us use anything that helps.
Now I'm depressed even more.


17 posted on 08/15/2006 10:05:17 AM PDT by vae_victus
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To: vae_victus

sorry my response was to Jaysun
I would comment, but what's the use?


18 posted on 08/15/2006 10:07:21 AM PDT by vae_victus
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To: najida

clinical depression should not be underestimated,

I have used C.B.T. to some good effect.


19 posted on 08/15/2006 10:08:25 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: najida
It's like the world is grey, sounds are muted and everything either hurts too much or you feel nothing.

Would you stop it....now I'M feeling down.....

20 posted on 08/15/2006 10:11:08 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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