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Brian Williams Equates Elite U.S. Military With Terrorist Bombers (FreeRepublic Sourced)
MRC ^ | Friday August 11, 2006 | BrentBaker

Posted on 08/11/2006 8:29:17 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

While ostensibly trying to praise elite U.S. soldiers, seamen and civilian first responders, on Thursday's Hardball on MSNBC, NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams seemed to equate them with terrorist suicide bombers: "The willingness to take one's own life -- I always tell people, you know, there are guys on our team like that, too." Referring to those caught in the new plot to bring down airliners leaving Britain, Chris Matthews noted how they lived for years amongst Westerners and yet "having gotten to know us, they want to kill themselves to hurt us. Isn't that an even deeper conundrum here than the chemicals being used in these attacks?" Williams, live from near Heathrow Airport, responded: "And that, Chris, that last aspect, the willingness to take one's own life -- I always tell people, you know, there are guys on our team like that, too. They're called Army Rangers and Navy Seals and the Special Forces folks and the first responders on 9/11 who went into those buildings knowing, by the way, they weren't going to come out. So we have players like that on our team."

No, our soldiers and seamen may be willing to kill enemy operatives and bravely willing to sacrifice their lives in order to save others, but they do not commit suicide by blowing themselves up in order to murder innocent civilians.

It's hard to believe Williams buys what he said, so I'll chalk it up to a bungled attempt to praise members of the American military for the bravery they display in being willing to die to protect others -- not that Williams really thinks they are the same as terrorists who mass murder innocents through suicide bombings. His reference to how "first responders on 9/11 who went into those buildings knowing, by the way, they weren't going to come out," also raises doubt about his soldier-terrorist comparison since first responders certainly aren't known for killing.

Mark Finkelstein, a blogger on the MRC's NewsBusters, learned on Free Republic about the Williams comment and posted an item Thursday night on NewsBusters -- for which I supplied audio/video. That will be added to the posted version of this CyberAlert, but in the meantime, to watch the Real or Windows Media video, or MP3 audio, go to: newsbusters.org

The exchange from the interview at the top of the live 7pm EDT edition of the August 10 Hardball, with Matthews outside the headquarters for the Department of Homeland Security (probably really in the parking lot for NBC-owned WRC-TV which is next door), and Williams standing outside near Heathrow Airport close to London:

Chris Matthews: "In our first edition of Hardball tonight we had a Senator on, former Senator John Edwards on, who said that once these people in the east, in the Islamic world, get to know us personally, understand our character -- our good character as he said -- they wouldn't hate us so much, they wouldn't want to commit suicide to hurt us. But here we have maybe 25, 24 people who've lived in London and England and the free world for all these years that become citizens, subjects of the Crown, and yet, after having gotten to know us, they want to kill themselves to hurt us. Isn't that an even deeper conundrum here than the chemicals being used in these attacks?"

Williams: "And that, Chris, that last aspect, the willingness to take one's own life -- I always tell people, you know, there are guys on our team like that, too. They're called Army Rangers and Navy Seals and the Special Forces folks and the first responders on 9/11 who went into those buildings knowing, by the way, they weren't going to come out. So we have players like that on our team.

"But to the center of your question, it goes to ideology. Can you reverse the clock here? We now know this is the conflict of our generation. Who would have thought it would take this shape? Who would have thought it would be against an enemy we can't always see? And who would have thought the new target would be a stainless steel tube flying, as you put it, at 39,000 feet full of innocent people?"


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Free Republic; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
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Hat tip to poster 'nutmeg' at Free Republic from newsbusters.

1 posted on 08/11/2006 8:29:19 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: nutmeg

PING


2 posted on 08/11/2006 8:30:43 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
...the first responders on 9/11 who went into those buildings knowing, by the way, they weren't going to come out.

I don't think so. They knew there was a chance they wouldn't come out (there always is). However, if they knew for a fact it was a suicide mission, they would reevaluate and find another way. You don't sacrifice the living to save the dead.

3 posted on 08/11/2006 8:33:34 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
"In our first edition of Hardball tonight we had a Senator on, former Senator John Edwards on, who said that once these people in the east, in the Islamic world, get to know us personally, understand our character -- our good character as he said -- they wouldn't hate us so much, they wouldn't want to commit suicide to hurt us.

Talk about not getting it.

4 posted on 08/11/2006 8:34:02 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: fight_truth_decay

I don't have a problem with what he said. He used a poor analogy, but it seems like much ado...


5 posted on 08/11/2006 8:34:18 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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To: fight_truth_decay

I read the other thread without seeing the conversation in context. In no way do I think Brian Williams was trying to equate Seals and Rangers with terrorists. The words were poorly chosen, but I do believe he meant that we have men and women willing to give their life to defend and protect us.


6 posted on 08/11/2006 8:34:34 AM PDT by Wright Wing
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To: nutmeg

Wow, looks like your a celebrity now. ;-D


7 posted on 08/11/2006 8:34:35 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: fight_truth_decay
The man is sooo dumb! What could he have been thinking to use such an analogy.

Talk about empty suits.......FGS!

8 posted on 08/11/2006 8:35:28 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

I was referring to Williams, but Edwards is vying for title of absolutely dumbest man in America.


9 posted on 08/11/2006 8:36:41 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Chris Matthews noted how they lived for years amongst Westerners and yet "having gotten to know us, they want to kill themselves to hurt us. Isn't that an even deeper conundrum here than the chemicals being used in these attacks?" Williams

These people are insular and live among their own communities. They are not assimilated into our culture.

10 posted on 08/11/2006 8:37:17 AM PDT by GeronL (http://www.mises.org/story/1975 <--no such thing as a fairtax)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Liberalism is truly a Mental Disorder!

Brian, Our soldiers will put their lives on the line to protect a comrade or civilian or our country but never put on civilian clothes, strap bombs to themselves, walk into a cafe' and blow up innocent men, women and children.

11 posted on 08/11/2006 8:38:15 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Rutles4Ever

Sacrificing your life to TAKE life is the opposite of offering to sacrifice yourself to SAVE life.


12 posted on 08/11/2006 8:39:07 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1 ( Press "2" to disconnect until you have learned to speak English)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Wasn't Williams the one who last year compared our founding fathers with terrorists?


13 posted on 08/11/2006 8:39:11 AM PDT by elc (Feeling the babywearing love)
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To: fight_truth_decay

The kindest thing to say about Williams' statement is that it was certainly bungled. There are any number of stories in our history about our warriors willingly giving their lives in sacrifice to this nation, but there are none about our warriors blowing themselves up to kill women and children.


14 posted on 08/11/2006 8:40:46 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I have a big problem with the (at the very least) ignorance of the progressive socialist media who can only interview each other to produce the news slanted their way.

He knew exactly what he said and why he said it. These people abhor the military - as do their dnc masters.


15 posted on 08/11/2006 8:41:05 AM PDT by TimesDomain
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To: fight_truth_decay

Brian Williams is an asshat.


16 posted on 08/11/2006 8:41:27 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Mark Finkelstein, a blogger on the MRC's NewsBusters, learned on Free Republic...

Thanks, Mark. We usually never get credit.

Thread:

Brian Williams, NBC anchor Makes Stunning Commnent Comparing Navy Seals and Army Ranger to terrorist

17 posted on 08/11/2006 8:45:42 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen and member of the Head SnowFlake Committee)
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To: fight_truth_decay

And they laugh at George Bush's inability to speechify...


18 posted on 08/11/2006 8:45:57 AM PDT by Hatteras
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To: USNBandit
once these people in the east, in the Islamic world, get to know us personally, understand our character -- our good character as he said -- they wouldn't hate us so much...

Exactly, if we just show those people how we celebrate homosexuality, feminism, lewd and sacrilegious art, Hollywood's profanity and perverse sexuality, they'd just start loving and respecting us.....

19 posted on 08/11/2006 8:46:00 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some Freepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Chris Matthews noted how they lived for years amongst Westerners and yet "having gotten to know us, they want to kill themselves to hurt us.

The more I get to know you Chris, the better I understand those feelings.

20 posted on 08/11/2006 8:46:06 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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