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Surveillance Works (today's editorial from the Washington Times)
Wash Times ^ | 8-11-06 | Editorial

Posted on 08/11/2006 6:57:37 AM PDT by doug from upland

complete WashTimes editorial

Surveillance works
TODAY'S EDITORIAL August 11, 2006

Can we all agree now on the necessity of uncompromised terrorist surveillance programs? British authorities said yesterday that "an unprecedented level" of surveillance of meetings, spending, travel and "the aspirations" of terrorists was the key to unravelling yesterday's horrific plot to blow up transatlantic airliners in flight. This may or may not be the result of a "terrorism surveillance program" so controversial of late, but it surely demonstrates the need.

We shudder to think what would have happened in the coming days had the New York Times gotten hold of British or American airline antiterrorism investigations prior to yesterday's arrests. A successful attack would have cost the lives of hundreds, possibly thousands, of innocent passengers travelling from the United Kingdom to North American destinations. People would have been incinerated over the Atlantic Ocean by fanatical Islamist terrorists in an attack which Home Secretary John Reid rightly calls the biggest terrorist threat Britain has ever faced.

The plot-foiling resulted from good intelligence work by MI-6 and Scotland Yard in conjunction with Pakistan and U.S. intelligence agencies. 24 suspects were in custody late Thursday, some or all of whom are reported to be British Muslims of Pakistani descent and citizens of the United Kingdom.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: counterterrorism; gwot; islamofascists; jihad; londonairlineplot; middleeast; spying; surveillance; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 08/11/2006 6:57:38 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
"We shudder to think..."
That's putting it mildly.
2 posted on 08/11/2006 7:00:13 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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"We shudder to think what would have happened in the coming days had the New York Times gotten hold of British or American airline antiterrorism investigations prior to yesterday's arrests."

You might enjoy this from yesterday: BWAHAHAHA - New York Times news desk hangs up over question about not being able to warn terrorists

3 posted on 08/11/2006 7:02:05 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

We shudder to think what would have happened in the coming days had the New York Times gotten hold of British or American airline antiterrorism investigations prior to yesterday's arrests.
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Well, the upside is maybe we would have had enough evidence to shut this traitorous communist rag down for good. It would be nice NOW, to see our government take the issue of treason and sedition SERIOUSLY.


4 posted on 08/11/2006 7:02:38 AM PDT by EagleUSA (T)
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To: doug from upland

Yeah, I heard Judge Napolitano on John Gibson's "The Big Story" yesterday on FOX. He said that it was the "Patriot Act" - type surveillance in Great Britain that foiled the "Terror in the Skies" plot.

Thank God that Ted Kennedy and Nancy Pelosi weren't in charge on the other side of the big pond. Hey, Dems; are you paying attention?

Thank God for George Bush and the PATRIOT ACT.


5 posted on 08/11/2006 7:04:52 AM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: doug from upland

I was reading this, and wondering if you'd seen it, after having seen your post yesterday. Then I realized you had posted this! Heh.


6 posted on 08/11/2006 7:05:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: no dems
Dec. 17, 2005

America, never forget this.....

"We killed the Patriot Act,"
Minority Leader Harry Reid, Nevada Democrat

7 posted on 08/11/2006 7:07:56 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: doug from upland

"We shudder to think what would have happened in the coming days had the New York Times gotten hold of British or American airline antiterrorism investigations "

That would have been the end of that evil rag once and for all.


8 posted on 08/11/2006 7:11:29 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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To: doug from upland

This, and similar statements, should be featured and used against the RATS in every competitive congressional and Senate contest.


9 posted on 08/11/2006 7:13:06 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: doug from upland

The sad thing is that some people still don't get it. A caller to a local talk show said this morning that yesterday's events were proof that the NYT was right to disclose the SWIFT surveillance. I have no idea how he could possibly have reached that conclusion, but that's what he said.


10 posted on 08/11/2006 7:15:37 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265
Easy to understand.

Emotional driven bias trumps logic/intellect every time.

11 posted on 08/11/2006 7:18:25 AM PDT by TruthWillWin
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To: doug from upland

>>> British authorities said yesterday that "an unprecedented level" of surveillance of meetings, spending, travel and "the aspirations" of terrorists was the key to unravelling yesterday's horrific plot to blow up transatlantic airliners in flight.

One thing the story does not tell is is whether the surveillance done with or without warrants? Are the Brits able to provide this kind of surveillance of all citizens or only those suspected of terrorism?


12 posted on 08/11/2006 7:20:47 AM PDT by NC28203
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To: rwa265

The sad thing is that some people still don't get it. A caller to a local talk show said this morning that yesterday's events were proof that the NYT was right to disclose the SWIFT surveillance. I have no idea how he could possibly have reached that conclusion, but that's what he said.




They live in a parallel universe. April 19, 1995 was significant for more than the OKC bombing. The country was, of course, already partisan and somewhat divided. But Clinton cynically used it to create the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and hate talk radio that was out to get him. His true believes dug in their heels. They would support him no matter what because they had to protect the country from the dreaded right wing. Clinton divided us like never before. Those on his side are still the ones causing the problems in our country.


13 posted on 08/11/2006 7:21:56 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: TruthWillWin

"Emotional driven bias trumps logic/intellect every time."

That's true. I think it's Rush that says, 'for them, it's not what you think, it's how you feel'.


14 posted on 08/11/2006 7:25:56 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: doug from upland

"We killed the Patriot Act"
15 posted on 08/11/2006 8:00:36 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: doug from upland

There would be a lot of dead. But knowing that they died so the NYT could protect the right to freedom of the press and to nyah,nyah in the face of Bush. Would have no doubt balmed the hearts of their families.


16 posted on 08/11/2006 8:28:12 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Why does this guy remind me of a small town funeral director ?


17 posted on 08/11/2006 8:43:58 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: rwa265
A caller to a local talk show said this morning that yesterday's events were proof that the NYT was right to disclose the SWIFT surveillance.

Did he speak with a Middle East accent and say he was calling on his cell phone from a cab he was driving?

18 posted on 08/11/2006 8:48:38 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: N. Theknow

"Did he speak with a Middle East accent and say he was calling on his cell phone from a cab he was driving?"

No, he spoke in clear English with no accent at all.


19 posted on 08/11/2006 9:35:37 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: rwa265
"Did he speak with a Middle East accent and say he was calling on his cell phone from a cab he was driving?"

No, he spoke in clear English with no accent at all.

Oh! Hmmm? Coulda been Ned Lamont. Or Harry Reid. Or Ted Kennedy. The list goes on............

20 posted on 08/11/2006 9:40:46 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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