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August 22 : Does Iran Have Something in Store
Wall Street Journal ^ | Tuesday, August 8, 2006 4:30 p.m. EDT | BERNARD LEWIS

Posted on 08/08/2006 3:52:16 PM PDT by Excellence

In Islam, as in Judaism and Christianity, there are certain beliefs concerning the cosmic struggle at the end of time--Gog and Magog, anti-Christ, Armageddon, and for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil, however these may be defined. Mr. Ahmadinejad and his followers clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced. It may even have a date, indicated by several references by the Iranian president to giving his final answer to the U.S. about nuclear development by Aug. 22. This was at first reported as "by the end of August," but Mr. Ahmadinejad's statement was more precise. What is the significance of Aug. 22? This year, Aug. 22 corresponds, in the Islamic calendar, to the 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427. This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq, first to "the farthest mosque," usually identified with Jerusalem, and then to heaven and back (c.f., Koran XVII.1). This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary of the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadinejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for Aug. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ahmadinejad; august22; bernardlewis; geopolitics; globaljihad; iran; israel; jihad; terrorism; terrorists; wot
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To: Miztiki

Thank you Miztiki.


81 posted on 08/08/2006 11:48:30 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

What are you thanking me for? You're the one who did all the work so that I can easily educate myself.

Thank YOU.


82 posted on 08/09/2006 2:05:48 AM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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To: Miztiki

Smiling.
You're welcome.


83 posted on 08/09/2006 2:08:28 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: freelancer

yep, good ole Jimmuh... the real-life Manchurian Candidate.


84 posted on 08/09/2006 2:52:55 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: Tench_Coxe; All

the 12th Imam is our AntiChrist - the similarities are too striking. They are the darkness to our light (or we, theirs, as they happen to see it...).

Either our God or theirs is the One. There can be no other answer.

it is a choice between our Judeo-Christian God - who displays Himself as a stern, loving, and forgiving Father through the old & new testaments - is the One True God...

or Allah - who permits the viscious treatment of women and infidels, who calls his heaven a fleshpot in direct contradiction to the state of Grace as described by Jesus the Christ - who must be Lord and hold Dominion over us like so much chattel.

It follows, therefore, that Islam is the vehicle through which Shaitan enslaves so many of mankind... or (again, their belief is juxtaposed to ours) not.

For my part, I say it's high time we started playing "Cowboys & Persians"... or Arabs, Indonesians, Islamists.... whatever TF they choose to call themselves... if they're so bent on going to their orgiastic heaven, I say we should enable them with all due speed.

CGVet58


85 posted on 08/09/2006 3:07:37 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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To: beyond the sea
Old Imam fell down MEL'S HOLE in Washington state years ago............. he's gone!

LOL! That still on Coast to Coast?

86 posted on 08/09/2006 4:52:02 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: iluvgeorgie
No, we are NOT having Armageddon on my birthday!

No, it will be on my birthday, if the Mayan calendars are right. Sinking Mayans.

87 posted on 08/09/2006 4:59:07 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Excellence; Convert from ECUSA
 

I think on August 22nd a big threat will be issued to Israel and also the United States. No dastardly actions by Iran but big threats will be made. Threats might take the shape of:

We will nuke Israel if .....
We will cut off all oil to Europe and America if ....

Shiite Iran is vying for leadership of the Muslim world. They figure that if they can do something big many Sunnis will switch to Ahmadinejad Shiite cult of the 12th Imam. Once more the civilized world (Christian lands and Israel) will be under heavy threat and action by the pagan warrior cult of Muhammad

Aug 22 is good date for Ahmadinejad . Iran has stalled and stalled. By August 22nd nations are bringing in harvests with a view to provisioning for the winter. Fuel supplies are lined up for the winter. Iran will start threatening winter oil supplies which impacts directly on heating, never mind gasoline for transport. Russia pulled fuel supply stunts last winter and Iran paid heed

Oh - And that mofo to the South of us Hugo Chavez. He will act in concert with Iran on threats to the USA of oil boycotts and shutoffs.

China and Russia may back up Ahmadinejad. High probability at least one will. Back them with nuclear weapons umbrella and maybe even publicly transfer some to them

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IRAN'S August 22 threat may be Europe and USA must rein in Israel or no oil this winter with 10% reduction in oil exports immediately. And Chavez will chime in few months later to cut off oil to USA but not Europe.

Reining in Israel means Israel gets out of Lebanon and stops bombing Leb.

Oil is not fungible if Iran and Venezuela want to make it so. Today it's child's play to track tankers via GPS and make sure they offload at their promised destinations in China India and the 3rd world. And the oil will be sold at a discount too. But not so for USA and Europe

 

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2006 Phases of the Moon

Universal Time

      NEW MOON    FIRST QUARTER        FULL MOON     LAST QUARTER

       d  h  m          d  h  m          d  h  m          d  h  m
       
                 JAN.   6 18 56   JAN.  14  9 48   JAN.  22 15 14   
JAN.  29 14 15   FEB.   5  6 29   FEB.  13  4 44   FEB.  21  7 17
FEB.  28  0 31   MAR.   6 20 16   MAR.  14 23 35   MAR.  22 19 11
MAR.  29 10 15   APR.   5 12 01   APR.  13 16 40   APR.  21  3 28
APR.  27 19 44   MAY    5  5 13   MAY   13  6 51   MAY   20  9 21 
MAY   27  5 26   JUNE   3 23 06   JUNE  11 18 03   JUNE  18 14 08
JUNE  25 16 05   JULY   3 16 37   JULY  11  3 02   JULY  17 19 13 
JULY  25  4 31   AUG.   2  8 46   AUG.   9 10 54   AUG.  16  1 51
AUG.  23 19 10   AUG.  31 22 57   SEPT.  7 18 42   SEPT. 14 11 15 
SEPT. 22 11 45   SEPT. 30 11 04   OCT.   7  3 13   OCT.  14  0 26 
OCT.  22  5 14   OCT.  29 21 25   NOV.   5 12 58   NOV.  12 17 45 
NOV.  20 22 18   NOV.  28  6 29   DEC.   5  0 25   DEC.  12 14 32 

 

 

88 posted on 08/09/2006 6:43:46 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: dennisw
Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq.

89 posted on 08/09/2006 6:53:28 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: evets
Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq.

=When you are a Muzz yer liable to believe any old superstitious pagan sheeeeeeeeeeet
=Muzz means never having to say yer sorry you are not  a rational human being

90 posted on 08/09/2006 7:05:35 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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91 posted on 08/09/2006 7:13:52 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: dennisw

When you're a Jet, you're a Jet all the way..


92 posted on 08/09/2006 7:16:10 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: OpusatFR
China doesn't have enough bullets to crush an Islamic revolution in its provinces that will spill onto the cities

I wouldn't count on that. They're the only ones that seem to have a handle on their "Muslim Question."

93 posted on 08/09/2006 7:18:09 AM PDT by ichabod1 (WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

My prediction has been, for quite some time, that if Iran successfully gets a nuke they are going to issue an ultimatum, or fatwa, if you will -- US out of Iraq, and Israel out of Israel.

I think it more likely a nukular test on the 22nd, though it could be a conventional missile test -- less likely since he's promising an answer to the world that day. I don't think he's going to try to take down Israel.

But I could be wrong, and he might want to be vewy, vewy careful about setting off nukular fireworks in that region. He could get taken down just on the basis of a test, instantaneously, and with extreme prejudice. Kinda doubtful because things don't seem to work that way. But what I'm seeing, living through these ultra-historic times, is that things seem to drag along, day after workaday day, and then events proceed with blinding speed.


94 posted on 08/09/2006 7:22:23 AM PDT by ichabod1 (WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

I think you miss the point. The Iranian Nut Job is TRYING to start the last battle to end the "war" and start the next phase of Muslim existence. Fanatics can never be trusted to do the rational thing. To him our retaliation would be welcome when it springs to life the 1/2 billion man Muslim army.


95 posted on 08/09/2006 7:24:36 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: dennisw
Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq.

96 posted on 08/09/2006 7:25:05 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: evets

bump


97 posted on 08/09/2006 7:28:48 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam is a subsingularity memetic perversion : (http://www.orionsarm.com/topics/perversities.html))
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To: keats5

Depending on the bomb size they would have some fallout, but you might try reading through some of these materials, http://www.millennium-ark.net/News_Files/menu.nuke.html , while much of this applies to the United States and Canada the information is relevant when evaluating a nuke in the ME. I found the "What to Do If a Nuclear Disaster Is Imminent" and the information "11 Steps to Survival" very interesting reading. I'd be surprised if Iran drops a nuclear bomb on Israel of any portent size. If they drop a nuclear anything it could very well be a dirty bomb.


98 posted on 08/09/2006 7:29:20 AM PDT by EBH (Islam: A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.)
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To: ichabod1

My bet is no Iran nuclear test on Aug 22nd. But there will be big threats made. Islams love threats, intimidation and bullying. That's the way they also deal with fellow Muslims.

This is feral behavior of Islam that Mohammed inaugurated. All blame lies with feral Mohammed


99 posted on 08/09/2006 7:30:28 AM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: evets

Are you suggesting they might use one of these types of planes loaded with nuclear material as a bomb?


100 posted on 08/09/2006 7:30:50 AM PDT by EBH (Islam: A government ruled by or subject to religious authority.)
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