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1 posted on 08/06/2006 3:55:17 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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the problem is, once CARB adopts something - a group of 6 other populace states in the northeast also do - and that group can essentially dictate emissions policy for the US. the administration has done nothing to reform EPA - for example, CARB and EPA are stopping high mileage clean diesel cars from being sold in the US.


2 posted on 08/06/2006 4:00:05 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: NormsRevenge

Sure, if California adopts this measure Illinois will follow
as will other blue states.

Will breathing be outlawed?


3 posted on 08/06/2006 4:11:56 PM PDT by ChiMark
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Arnold lost my vote long ago. Now he is on track to lose the votes of those who believe that global warming is a crisis that must be addressed at virtually any cost as well as the votes of those who believe that global warming is baloney. Republicans should be so proud.


4 posted on 08/06/2006 4:15:14 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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It looks like California didn't learn a damn thing the last time they screwed around with energy regulations and about bankrupted the state.

They should just pass a 50% "Green Weenie" tax on all income, then they can give it to the Greens to play with.


5 posted on 08/06/2006 4:18:49 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Liberals get up every morning and eat a big box of "STUPID" for breakfast)
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Say good bye to the remaining industrial manufactueres.
This will only kill the U.S. economy giving immense power to the Chi-coms.


6 posted on 08/06/2006 4:20:00 PM PDT by ChiMark
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Schwarzenegger also faces criticism from within his own party for even considering signing the bill.

Yup! Deservedly so!

7 posted on 08/06/2006 4:21:20 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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He's dumb enough to sign it.


8 posted on 08/06/2006 4:25:55 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: NormsRevenge; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; heleny; Paloma_55; dalereed; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
This is FALSE!

There is no problem here!!

The only thing standing in the way of getting this done are a few whistful and powerless Conservatives and the entire CA economy!!! (CARB stalls everything!)(see tagline)

You can do it Arnold. You've done little else since hijacking the historic CA Recall election!!!

I cannot find one blown-up box, or one meaningful cutting of spending!!!

9 posted on 08/06/2006 4:54:53 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The answer to anything EnvironMental in CA is merciless, militant GovernMental Regulators!!!)
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For heavens sake, if the ARNULD wanted to control greenhouse gases... put a plastic bag over the head of every member of the legislature....

Kalifornia would be a better place!

11 posted on 08/06/2006 5:00:39 PM PDT by pointsal (Q)
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Leaders From California and the U.K. Meet to Discuss Climate Action -
Schwarzenegger Environmental Advisor to Keynote the CO2 Global Cap-and-Trade Forum

NEW YORK, Aug. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Strategic Research Institute's Global CO2 Cap-and-Trade Forum will take place September 18 to 19, 2006 in Washington D.C. Aside from soaring temperatures, August also saw the heating up of CO2 emissions and climate policy with a meeting in California between British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The meeting was, according to Terry Tamminen, Governor Schwarzenegger's Special Assistant for Energy and Environmental Policy, "incredibly important." Tamminen explains that these leaders agreed "that we can't wait for the U.S. Federal government. Getting other states to take the measurable steps, including Kyoto-like targets and the appropriate actions to achieve them, as California has done, will build a de-facto national climate policy."

(snip)

12 posted on 08/06/2006 5:02:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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On the bright side, this might fix California's illegal alien problem. No industry = no jobs = no illegals.


14 posted on 08/06/2006 6:29:03 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/06/EDGVPKBEJG1.DTL

'Green' governor needs to cool it
Jill Stewart
Sunday, August 6, 2006

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On May 31, he unveiled his global-warming plan at the U.N. World Environmental Day Conference. He has proposed a rollback in emissions of gases believed linked to global warming to 2000 levels by 2010, followed by a series of further rollbacks.

Which brings us to his proposed "Climate Action Board," which would oversee a "comprehensive emission reduction system" affecting buildings, landfills, agriculture, the energy sector and many other areas. BreAnda Northcutt, of the California EPA, tells me, "The Air Resources Board has made it clear they don't have the expertise or manpower to operate a comprehensive emissions management system." The new board would not merely push through environmental regulations. It would have the power to stop regulations that curb greenhouse gases -- if those rules hurt the economy. It would decide upon "cap and trade" provisions that give monetary incentives to low polluters (a great idea), but allow some polluters to pay to avoid sanctions (a necessity. until we figure out how to make industries cleaner).

Arnold wants Assembly Speaker Fabian Núñez, a Los Angeles Democrat, to amend AB32 to create his Climate Action Board. But some environmentalists are queasy, seeing the governor's idea as a possible end-run around the Air Resources Board. Do we want the governor to control this powerful new bureaucracy via an appointed body? It's true that the governor also appoints the members of the Air Resources Board, and it also serves at will. But the ARB has a long and steady history of doing its job. We know its work. Yet we don't even know who the governor will be six months from now. What if Schwarzenegger creates this powerful new body, and it immediately comes under control of "Gov. Phil Angelides"? I certainly don't want Angelides choosing the nine people who make global-warming decisions for California. He's clueless. But more importantly, because Schwarzenegger has a vision for how it should operate, shouldn't he wait until he knows whether he is re-elected the governor before he creates it?


15 posted on 08/06/2006 7:10:45 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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