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C This! An angry mom answers the French Tom Cruise.
National Review Online ^ | 8/1/06 | Susan Konig

Posted on 08/01/2006 11:00:39 AM PDT by Huntress

I just found out I am a bad mother.

Not because I let the kids apply their own sun block, or because hot dogs are the major source of protein in our home in the summer. And not because I took them to the town fair and let them ride “the barf rides” 16 times.

No, apparently, according to a “leading childbirth expert,” I have failed since the very beginning to properly bond with any of my children because they were delivered by Caesarean section.

French obstetrician Michel Odent presented his findings in Cambridge, England last month, detailing how a woman who schedules a C-section does not experience a “release of hormones” that will allow her to “fall in love” with her child.

A hormone called oxytocin is released during childbirth, so those who take the easy method of having a human being removed from their bodies miss out on “this complex cocktail of love chemicals” that plays a part in first contact of mother and child.

Now I’m no French obstetrician, but I was born in France (that’s another story) and I have known a few obstetricians in my time. I would imagine that carrying a baby inside you for more than nine months might qualify as first contact. Call me sappy, but I was in love with my kids before I held them in my arms.

I don’t understand the specifics of how the level of hormones is at its highest during a natural birth — but having my kids travel down my birth canal, specifically my 10-and-a-half pound daughter or her 12-pound-one-ounce brother wouldn’t have made me fall in love with them, no offense intended. I love them more because they were surgically removed.

Now I get a little break on the “no love” issue with my daughter because this doc says women who go into labor and then have a C-section, already have the love flow set in motion. So these moms are all right and are forgiven for having emergency surgery after a mere 14 hours of labor.

It’s the terrible women who elect to have a C-section without even giving natural birth a go. That would be me the next three times.

The stats in Great Britain’s national health system show that 7 percent of C-sections annually are recorded as scheduled for no medical reason.

That doesn’t seem excessive to me. But this Tom Cruise of France and his ilk are calling these “designer births” for women who are “too posh to push.”

Apparently the worst offenders are top celebrities. The expression is named for former Spice Girl Victoria “Posh Spice” Beckham who opted for a C-section.

I’m not too posh, I’m too thin.

Looking at me it’s hard to tell. But under all this girth and bones is a uterus that is “paper thin” according to the surgical notes that I read in horror about me exploding if I pushed. So if fear of exploding makes me too posh to push then I suppose I am.

He says that oxytocin is also the hormone “that enables a woman to…forget the pain of birth.”

Having had four kids, there must be something else to help completely obliterate the agony of birth since I have been dull minded to go through it four times. Perhaps he doesn’t consider surgical births as having the pain of natural birth. But having been in labor for 14 hours and recovering from four abdominal surgeries, I would say there’s some stuff to be forgotten there.

Not to mention months of morning sickness, bloating, astronomical weight gain and the agony of maternity pants.

He added: “What we can say for sure is that when a woman gives birth with a pre-labour Caesarean section she does not release this flow of love hormones, so she is a different woman than if she had given birth naturally and the first contact between mother and baby is different.”

Britney Spears, who had her first tot last year, Victoria “Posh Spice” Beckham, Elizabeth Hurley and Madonna are singled out for “choosing early C-sections over old-fashioned childbirth in order to avoid abdominal stretching.”

As an expert in stretching abdominal muscles, I can safely say that delivering a week early is not going to save those abs.

Just for fun, this doctor adds that “taking painkillers such as general an[a]esthetic or an epidural can negatively affect bonding in the first crucial hours.”

I know quite a few women who have avoided anesthesia successfully and had a completely natural birthing experience — one with a son who was 11 pounds 2 ounces; God bless her. Funny, but after she had him she said something about (and I’ll put it politely) “passing a watermelon” and failed to mention the love flow.

The one time my oxytocin flowed — when I labored before having an emergency C-section with my first child — I was overcome, not with love but with fatigue when a nurse brought her in for her first feeding. I sent her back, saying, “You feed her. I’m too tired.” I only had that lovely round-the-clock hospital nursery for a couple of days, after all.

Must have been all the anesthesia I’d been wimpy enough to accept when they sawed me in half and removed my 10-pound baby.

In a Daily Mail article about Dr. Odent’s study, Belinda Phipps, chief executive of the National Childbirth Trust, was quoted as saying, “We know that oxytocin levels are lower in women who have had Caesareans but we do not know what effect it has.

“Women should not be worried about this as there are lots of factors which affect how they bond with their baby.”

Thank you, Belinda.

— Susan Konig is author of Why Animals Sleep So Close to the Road (And Other Lies I Tell My Children), available in paperback next week.


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I've never had a baby so I can't comment on the childbirth experience, but Dr. Odent's theory sounds like junk science to me. What say you, FReeper moms?
1 posted on 08/01/2006 11:00:43 AM PDT by Huntress
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To: Huntress

I'm pretty sure oxytocin is also released when you nurse your baby. So if you have a C-section and then nurse your baby, what's the difference?


2 posted on 08/01/2006 11:05:43 AM PDT by jwalburg (It wasn't the Executive that Thomas Jefferson referred to as "the Despotic Branch.")
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To: Huntress

There is supposedly some necessary pressure on the head of the child during a natural delivery.
I've had both. Love-wise this story is nonsense.


3 posted on 08/01/2006 11:06:02 AM PDT by Sarah
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To: Huntress
Blame John Edwards. He was one of the leading trial lawyers suing obstetricians for 'causing' defects in babies by delivering them vaginally. Seriously. He made the $60M he has primarily from suing physicians for causing cerebral palsy in infants by damaging them during natural childbirth. So....the natural response is just to recommend to expectant mothers to do the less invasive procedure and go c-section. Its faster, less damaging to the mother and decreases the risk of being sued by a trial lawyer.

And you can have the baby at the exact day and time you want to assist you in scheduling press conferences, vacations and pedicures without the child birth interfering your otherwise full life.

4 posted on 08/01/2006 11:09:18 AM PDT by bpjam (Remember our fallen Marines from Beirut. Hezbollah deserves no peace.)
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To: Huntress
"French obstetrician Michel Odent presented his findings in Cambridge, England last month, detailing how a woman who schedules a C-section does not experience a “release of hormones” that will allow her to “fall in love” with her child."

What a crock! I thought I had looked into the eyes of an angel when I saw my daughter for the first time. I wept with absolute love and adoration of such a gift from God. She was born by emergency C Section 7/16/95.

I find it very disturbing when a woman cannot bond with her newborn baby. There must be factors other than hormones that cause this and mine were raging baby!
5 posted on 08/01/2006 11:10:01 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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To: Huntress
He says that oxytocin is also the hormone “that enables a woman to…forget the pain of birth.”

Well that's a load of crap

We may get over it .. but we never forget that kind of pain and often remind our kids when they are being little buggers

6 posted on 08/01/2006 11:10:25 AM PDT by Mo1 (Bolton- "No one has explained how you negotiate a ceasefire with terrorists")
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To: Huntress
This is straight out of the materialist playbook.
According to them you're nothing but a bunch of chemicals and bundles of neurons and membranes.
The result of a fortuitous chemical accident millions of years ago.
Therefore unless the "love" hormone is released you can't possibly be in love with your child.

Such is the nonsense that Darwinism/Materialism leads to.

7 posted on 08/01/2006 11:12:18 AM PDT by Politically Correct
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To: Huntress

Dr. Seuss got it right in 'Horton Hatches the Egg' - about a lazy bird who flies off and leaves an elephant to sit on her egg for months and then wants it back when the hard work is done. Bonds are build of layers of love, not in a moment sealed. It's the time you spend with a child not the incidental hormones produced. (Although breast is best for baby and fab for the abs FWIW.)

Bella, mother of two happy, well-mannered children


8 posted on 08/01/2006 11:13:03 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: All

It's almost like saying that loving your child isn't really an emotion at all. It's just a chemically/hormonely induced state.


9 posted on 08/01/2006 11:15:29 AM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: Sarah

>>There is supposedly some necessary pressure on the head of the child during a natural delivery.
I've had both. Love-wise this story is nonsense.<<

Me too!
Net was 28 hours of labor, 2 1/2 of pushing and she still had to be pulled out with a suction cup.

Mil was 11 hours of labor, 1 1/2 hours of pushing and she had gone no where (she liked her womb with a view, I guess). Emergency C got her out.

And to be honest with you, it's more that she loves her Daddy more than me. IMO, because he was the first person to hold her. My hubby loves it.

But as for my loving them? They are both my darling angels! Equally.


10 posted on 08/01/2006 11:17:49 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Huntress

When this guy expels a bowling ball through his anus and finds that a shot of oxytocin makes him ready to do it again...I'll believe he knows what he's talking about.


11 posted on 08/01/2006 11:21:32 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: Huntress

Also, what about adopted children? How do their adoptive mothers come to love them? And how do all fathers come to love their children? When do they get their oxytocin?


12 posted on 08/01/2006 11:24:56 AM PDT by marsh_of_mists
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To: Madeleine Ward

On the other hand, do you think there is no correlation between neurochemistry and emotional state?

Copernicus also made many people uncomfortable when he told them that the Sun does not revolve around the Earth. But he was right, after all.


13 posted on 08/01/2006 11:28:40 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: Huntress; Foxfire4

Our baby was born by a C-section six and a half months ago. Let me tell you, I KNOW Foxfire4 has some hormonal love for that baby, because if I was in her position without those hormones, I would've gone nuts by now.

And our child *had* to be born by a C-section after 12 hours of difficult labor. Since we had a budding athlete (9 pounds coming out with linebacker shoulders) a C-section was the only safe way to get her out.

Junk science.

}:-)4


14 posted on 08/01/2006 11:29:12 AM PDT by Moose4 (Dirka dirka Mohammed jihad.)
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To: netmilsmom

Bravo! Speaking of not wanting to leave the womb, my first was 20 days late, my second 12 days - both were induced so I got HEAPS of hormones. According to this theory, I'd have Apron Strings of Steel (as opposed to the reality which is more like a cervix of steel).


15 posted on 08/01/2006 11:31:23 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada! (Steve's won my vote in the meantime))
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To: poobear
Personally I agree with you...the guy's full of it. The same thing happened to me at the birth of my daughter, and I'm THE FATHER!
16 posted on 08/01/2006 11:32:49 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: timsbella

>>(as opposed to the reality which is more like a cervix of steel).<<

LOLOLOL!
I'm with ya!


17 posted on 08/01/2006 11:32:59 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: silverleaf

Or as Carol Burnett says,
"Let any man pass an orange through his nostril, and we will talk".


18 posted on 08/01/2006 11:34:35 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: Moose4

Both our children came via C-section. I'm 6'6", 240 and mom is 4' 11" 95. They bonded with mom because she is alive to love them. Vaginal delivery would have killed her and we wouldn't have our second. How can you love and nurture when you're 6 feet under?


19 posted on 08/01/2006 11:53:37 AM PDT by scuba - doo
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To: tcostell

"...and I'm THE FATHER!"

LOL!

To say the least the father of our daughter was a bit misty too ;D!


20 posted on 08/01/2006 11:55:49 AM PDT by poobear (Political Left, continually accusing their foes of what THEY themselves do every day.)
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