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CA: That $1 million hydrogen Honda gets few drivers (city employees eligible, but reluctant)
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | July 29, 2006 | Peter Rowe

Posted on 07/29/2006 11:20:22 AM PDT by calcowgirl

The star of Chula Vista's auto pool is a high-tech wonder that never needs gasoline. The 2005 Honda FCX runs on hydrogen, one of the most plentiful elements on earth.

Sounds like a dream. But finding city employees to pilot the vehicle has been a nightmare.

“It's been a challenge to keep people driving it,” said Jack Dickens, the city's fleet manager. “They are intimidated by the cost.”

Manufactured in small batches, these experimental cars are painstakingly engineered and stuffed with costly gizmos. This gives the little FCX a big price tag: $1 million.

“I try not to drive it just because of the price,” said Claire Gomez, a fiscal office specialist for the city. “I don't want to be the one to crash it.”

This reaction surprised Dickens.

Honda and the city hammered out an insurance policy to prevent post-fender-bender headaches. Moreover, by $1 million car standards, the FCX is leased to the city at a bargain rate: $500 a month.

“It's not like the city will be out a million dollars should someone crash it,” Dickens said. “The city's attorneys were happy with that.”

City employees, it seems, are less delighted. The way this blue two-door is shunned, you'd think it was hell on wheels.

When Honda delivered the car to Chula Vista on Nov. 10, 2004, the City Council attended the ceremony. After the festivities, Dickens thought Mayor Steve Padilla would drive off in the FCX. He didn't – and hasn't since.

Dickens offered to lend the car to another council member. Thanks, but no.

“That's just what I need,” the politician told Dickens. “The press to get ahold of me in an accident in a million-dollar car.”

These days, though, none of the 650 cars in the city's inventory is cheap to drive.

From police cruisers to Rec Department sedans, all burn gasoline. All except one.

Twenty months ago, Chula Vista followed Los Angeles and San Francisco, becoming the third California city to lease a pricey hydrogen-powered car. And taking part in the state-backed “Hydrogen Highway” program.

The South Bay city also opened a hydrogen refueling station, the only one in San Diego County. (A second has been approved for Camp Pendleton, and Scripps Ranch is in line for a third.)

The station, at the city's Maxwell Road garage, uses electricity to extract hydrogen from water. This gas is compressed and pumped into the FCX. The car's fuel cells mix hydrogen and oxygen, creating electricity.

An electric motor moves the car without emissions, except for a trickle of purified water.

This great potential, though, is tempered by hydrogen's formidable problems.

It costs energy to produce this energy; hydrogen-powered cars lack range – this FCX must be refueled every 160 miles; and California has a scant 23 refueling stations.

And then there's the Hindenburg. Scientists insist the true culprits for the 1937 disaster were static electricity and the airship's combustible frame but, in the popular mind, hydrogen still takes the rap.

These issues had been widely aired before Chula Vista embarked on this experiment. All experiments begin with problems; some end with solutions. “I think the time when fuel cells are common is not that far away,” Dickens said.

That day may come before city employees embrace their $1 million car.

“We try to get everyone to use it,” Dickens said, “but there's a certain reluctance.” Any city employee eligible to sign out a car from the pool can use the FCX, from interns up to the mayor. In fact, at least one intern was brave enough to take it for a spin.

Last year, the average sedan in the city's car pool traveled 6,300 miles. The FCX traveled 5,100 miles, but less than half of this distance was logged in Chula Vista.

Most of the miles were accumulated driving to and from Torrance, where Honda technicians conduct monthly inspections.

Delivering the car to Torrance, Steve Dorsey, the city garage's shop supervisor, said he liked the FCX's pep. Still, he cautiously kept his speed under 70 mph. “That gets you to Torrance with probably 15 to 20 miles range left,” he said.

Dorsey had more reasons to be cautious.

One million more reasons.

“I did think about that one or two times,” he admitted.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: autoshop; energy; fcx; govwatch; honda; hydrogen; hydrogencar; hydrogenhighway; ohthehumanity
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1 posted on 07/29/2006 11:20:24 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: doodlelady

Chula Vista ping.


2 posted on 07/29/2006 11:24:00 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

I'd love to own one, great for running errands! I'm waiting for them to be massed produced, with a lower ticket price (of course) and I'll be one of the first in line. It would be my way of giving a "middle finger" to OPEC as well as the US oil companies.


3 posted on 07/29/2006 11:29:18 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: calcowgirl
This doesn't make sense.

Since when have bureaucrats been reluctant to drive a high priced car owned by the government?

It must be dangerous or something?

4 posted on 07/29/2006 11:30:54 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Candor7

Send it to New Orleans. I'm sure someone there would drive it.


5 posted on 07/29/2006 11:32:09 AM PDT by umgud (Gov't needs a Department of Common Sense)
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To: calcowgirl

And this energy source is what the elitists want us peons to use instead of mideast oil? Ha!


6 posted on 07/29/2006 11:34:41 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Candor7

The high up people don't want to have bad PR from wreaking such an expensive car while the mid/low ranking people are afraid of getting fired if they hurt the expensive car.


7 posted on 07/29/2006 11:34:55 AM PDT by RFC_Gal (There is no tagline)
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To: Candor7

From the article:

“I try not to drive it just because of the price,” said Claire Gomez, a fiscal office specialist for the city. “I don't want to be the one to crash it.”


8 posted on 07/29/2006 11:43:24 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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To: calcowgirl
Clean burning natural gas is the only 'alternative' energy source that makes any sense. We need to let companies pump it and then car companies should make cars that run on it, actually existing cars can be made to do so for a couple of grand.... less than the tax incentive the feds give for electric cars BTW...

In a few years the price could drop to less than a penny a mile.

but eco-wackos and government never make any real sense.

9 posted on 07/29/2006 11:44:40 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Get a Natural Gas-powered car.


10 posted on 07/29/2006 11:45:17 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: taxesareforever
And this energy source is what the elitists want us peons to use instead of mideast oil?

It's not an energy source, but a method of making energy portable. What produces that energy, be it nuclear, natural gas, or even good old oil, is another question.

11 posted on 07/29/2006 11:47:30 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: RFC_Gal
It's a bit goofy looking which might be more of the reason. For our public servants to use it they should have made it a black limousine with tinted windows.


12 posted on 07/29/2006 11:49:21 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
There's a reason they put the pressurized tanks between the extra protection of the wheels. Any volunteers for the back seat?


13 posted on 07/29/2006 11:54:03 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I would drive a hydrogen car in a heartbeat once the technology improves.


14 posted on 07/29/2006 11:54:36 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

That's what I'm waiting for!


15 posted on 07/29/2006 11:58:21 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: Candor7
This doesn't make sense.
Since when have bureaucrats been reluctant to drive a high priced car owned by the government?

GMTA. And I laughed at the line:

Any city employee eligible to sign out a car from the pool can use the FCX, from interns up to the mayor. In fact, at least one intern was brave enough to take it for a spin."

Yeah, I thought, some 18 year old Bart Simpson-type "intern" with the City Parks department.

16 posted on 07/29/2006 12:00:55 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame
Give that little Honda to me, I'll take it out to a straight line road and see first what she can do in the quarter mile!!! LOL!
17 posted on 07/29/2006 12:03:25 PM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: calcowgirl

The costs associated with establishing a whole new infrastructure to refuel this type of vehicle is what will prevent it from becoming practical. I think biodiesel makes a lot more sense.


18 posted on 07/29/2006 12:08:05 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: John Jorsett

You are probably right but, no humvee's for me! :)


19 posted on 07/29/2006 12:19:25 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (NY Slimes the paper of record for OBL!)
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To: John Jorsett
Didn't the Hindenburg run on Hydrogen? What happens if you get re-ended?
20 posted on 07/29/2006 12:21:56 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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