Posted on 07/26/2006 1:11:31 PM PDT by blam
Only in spirit ( or spirits).
I don't follow the Roman gods and yet I use the word "June" to describe the 6th month. I don't follow the Norse gods and yet I use the words "Thursday" and "Friday" to describe days of the week.
Why do I do that when I don't follow the religions who named them? Because of continuity with the rest of the world.
Likewise all scientists who lacked Christian roots used the Gregorian calender, and it's breaking point of BC/AD, since 1582 (most of Europe) or 1752 (Britain and it's colonies). Only in the last few decades has the use of BCE/CE come into practice.
Ironic because the breaking point was the historic birth of Christ, which was the whole event anti-Christians were trying to ignore by changing the nomenclature. So I guess what brought us into the "Common Era" was the birth of Jesus, right?
"Oppenheimer says that his DNA studies indicate that about 50% of todays Europeans can trace their DNA to one man in the Indus valley "
Must have been a busy guy.
And that was BEFORE Viagra!!
"I'd hit it!"
Bringing this current..... is Al Doury the redheaded, uncaptured associate of Saddam a Tocharian?
What's the difference, from a theological perspective, between "Before Christ" and "Before the Common Era" when BOTH are based on the same event reference?
Perosnally, I don't care if you use BAB for Before the Atom Bomb and AAB for After the Atom Bomb, but most of the docuement prepared on history have used BC and AC and it does take up one last letter and is a lot short to say than "Before the Common Era."
Maybe we SHOULD use BAB and AAB.
By the way, what was the year 1 in the Jewish Calendar supposedly based on, the creation of the world? How was that figure originally computed?
BV.
Before Viagra.
Re post #28 photo: That thing looks like the villain in the new PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN movie.
>>>What's the difference, from a theological perspective, between "Before Christ" and "Before the Common Era" when BOTH are based on the same event reference?
Because the word Christ has very specific meaning theologically, The Anointed One. The Greek word Xristos has been used since pre-Christian times to translate the Hebrew word Messiah. Jews do not acknowledge Jesus to be the Messiah. BCE can acknowledge a common historical figure without acknowledging divinity.
>>>Ironic because the breaking point was the historic birth of Christ, which was the whole event anti-Christians were trying to ignore by changing the nomenclature. So I guess what brought us into the "Common Era" was the birth of Jesus, right?
That is correct. The question of BC vs BCE revolves around his divinity. BC acknowledges it while BCE recognizes Jesus as an historical figure.
No, they're different.
Jesus was born either around 6 BCE or 6 CE.
The earlier date comes from Matthew -- Jesus was born 2 years before Herod the Great died in 4BCE. The later date is from Luke -- Jesus was born during the tax census when Rome dismissed Herod Archelaus (Herod's son) and Judea became a province under direct Roman control.
So we have the choice of a Christ "Before Christ" or the "year of the Lord" (AD) before he was born. Neither one makes sense.
The principle of least effort (POLE) dictates that you leave the dates alone and recognize that the starting point has nothing to do with the birth of Christ.
... use BAB for Before the Atom Bomb and AAB for After the Atom Bomb ...
I can go with that -- although my personal favorite is AA and PA (ante Alexander and post Alexander)
>>>By the way, what was the year 1 in the Jewish Calendar supposedly based on, the creation of the world? How was that figure originally computed?
The year number on the Jewish calendar represents the number of years since creation. I'm not sure if the counting started with Adam or if it was calculated by adding up the ages of people in the Bible back to the time of creation at some point since then.
I was going to say how about Before Jesus then, but thought better of the abbreviation.
I guess you are an Alexander the Great man.
I kind of liked Genghis Khan - he had a way with Muslims I kind of admire.
Yep. I'm kinda partial to Alexander but I used him as the example 'cause his birth-date is fairly certain. Of course being the offspring of Zeus doesn't hurt either ...
Can Jenghis Xa say that?
Possibly. So may you and I.
No, but he conquered more territory. I don't think the date of his birth is certain, but neither is Christ's.
"Before Christ" recognizes his divinity to those who are not Christian? Does "Thursday" mean that we recognize the divinity of Thor?
As I noted in post #69, the term Christ has a very specific meaning, The Anointed One. As far as Jews are considered, the current peiod of time is BC since they do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah. You can refer to Thursday (Thor's day), but that has no meaning theologically. Before Christ has a definite meaning.
But then, why am I on this thread?
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