Posted on 07/21/2006 9:23:07 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
What do you get when you hold a conference with 1,200 people who are all afraid of offending one another? Ill tell you what you dont get. You dont get unity, and you dont get agreement on anything.
Thats what happened when the Spiritual Activism Conference took place recently in Washington, D.C. According to the New York Times, this group of religious liberals came together to discuss taking back religion from the conservative Christians. But the conference members had trouble getting anything specific done.
The Times hit it right on the nose when it explained, Turnout at the Spiritual Activism Conference was high, but if the gathering is any indication, the biggest barrier for liberals may be their regard for pluralism: for letting people say what they want, how they want to, and for trying to include everyones priorities rather than choosing two or three issues that could inspire a movement. Never mind even setting policy goals; some conference members were afraid that singing hymns might be enough to upset some members. Instead of coming away with a clear set of objectives, the conference members mostly came away frustrated.
Ironically for a group that prides itself on tolerance, it seems the only thing the conference could agree on was its opposition to the religious right. But frustrating as it was for them, the group had to concede that the religious right is a lot better at getting things done. Beliefnet suggests this was because religious conservatives are willing to argue there is one correct view on policy issues.
You see, thats the crux of the liberals problem. This conflict is not about political or social divisions. Its about authorityspecifically, whether or not Christians are willing to acknowledge that the Bible is our authority.
Tony Campolo certainly recognized this. Though Tony and I disagree on lots of things, I really like Tony. Hes honest, and he loves the Bible. He tried to explain at this conference the necessity of following Scripture. But one participant retorted, I thought this was a spiritual progressives conference. I dont want to play the game of the Bible says this or that, or that we get validation from something other than ourselves.
There you have it. Validation from ourselves simply means you make up your own god. We Christians may interpret the Bible differently; we may apply it to life differently; we may have arguments over exegesis. But the Bible has to be the ultimate authority. Otherwise we end up worshiping the goddess of tolerance and believing that tolerance takes precedence over truth.
Dorothy Sayers, the great English writer, said it best: In the world it is called Tolerance, but in hell it is called Despair, the sin that believes in nothing, cares for nothing, seeks to know nothing, interferes with nothing, enjoys nothing, hates nothing, finds purpose in nothing, lives for nothing, and remains alive because there is nothing for which it will die.
This kind of so-called tolerance can never bring people together, but only as we saw in Washington, pull them farther apart.
If this guy used his Bible, he would have found this verse:
There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.--Proverbs 14:12, NIV
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I think the author missed out that the participants already have a unifying theme - that their judgement exceeds that of God, therefore they should have the right to set the rules of religion.
Doesn't taking something back imply you had it to begin with? Lefty "religious" types are the most arrogant, self-centered, and hypocritical group I've ever encountered.
"real" tolerance is great. Liberal tolerance disgusting.
They have no tolerance.
Public display of faith is verbotten.
They have envy in their hearts for the goods someone else has. Everyone wants the fast track to riches (greed) but they despise the rich (envy).
They also preach hedonism (if it feels good, do it) and denounce the teaching of moral restraint.
Liberal tolerance is like liberty under socialism. Incompatible concept.
They play word games. Political correctness (AKA diversity training) is merely political re-education.
Well it is clear that they have a god complex and believe that they MUST be in power to craft the new socialist utopia.
I suppose that's fine if they don't want to believe that, but why do they not call themselves the Episcopal Country Club?
Shalom.
It was kind of a joke.
I wonder what the word "spiritual" means to these people? Does it mean "what makes me feel good?"
Shalom.
Chuck Colson, the man who ordered the Watergate break-in and destroyed a President.
From Revelations 3: 14...
"To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:
These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation. 15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! 16 So, because you are lukewarmneither hot nor coldI am about to spit you out of my mouth. 17 You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see."
The liberal Christian Church is today's Laodecia.
I think you mean that you are intolerant of tolerance.
Then you're a prime candidate for membership in BRAAD - the Bigot and Redneck Alliance Against Defamation. Their motto is, "We're here, we're intolerant, and we'll kick your a$$." The official theme song is "BRAAD to the Bone."
Shalom.
I was thinking about my classroom as I was reading this article and imagining what it would be like if I allowed every viewpoint and every opinion from every student to shape the curriculum, the lesson plans, the tests, and the final exam.
In fact, I used to go the Unitarian church, back when they were Christians. I wouldn't dare expose my son to what passes for religious thought there now. In fact, it seems quite clear from this vantage that life consists of choices and ethical judgment, and those of us who have a solid foundation based on a sound tradition are better off than someone who can't make up his or her mind or, worse yet, can't make a judgment about the actions and the beliefs of other people and yourself.
Someone once told me that consensus is the absence of leadership. Yep.
"The liberal Christian Church is today's Laodecia."
I would say that Laodecia is more characteristic of broad portions of Evangelical Christianity. ("You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.'") - i.e. outwardly sucessful, but spiritually impoverished.
The liberals aren't even a part of the Church.
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