[sinkspur]

It's not amnesty. You guys are wearing that word out to the point where it is just about meaningless.

[dirtboy]

It's not amnesty

Sorry, sink, but it is, no matter how much you and others pretend otherwise. What really matters to illegals is being allowed to stay in this country, instead of being deported the way current laws call for. They typically paid thousands to coyotes to get here - what's another couple grand to keep from getting sent back?

It's amnesty until it gets run through the Clintonian parse-o-matic.

[Bikers4Bush]

The penalty for illegal entry into the United States is deportation along with an order not to return.

Anything other than deportation with an order not to return is amnesty.

Doesn't matter how you try to slice it any differently.

[tumblindice]

"identical guest worker program"
They are opposite, not identical, on the issue of amnesty.
If you read Section 145 of Tancredo's proposed H.R. 3534, posted above, you will note: "Repeal of Amnesty Provision" that is, of section 249 of the Immigration & Nationality Act (8 USC 1259).

[mysterio]

1. Illegals keep the same jobs.

2. Illegals become legal while keeping the same jobs.

3. Employers get to keep their illegal workers and call them legal.

That's amnesty. Sorry.

And last I checked,

4. They don't have to leave after their visa expires now. They can choose to leave, or begin the citizaenship process.

Not just amnesty, Pence amnesty.

[brytlea]

Hmm by that logic ALL words are now meaningless since they are being used!
susie

[MrEdd]

It's not amnesty (it's just not having any significant legal repercussion for illegal residence). You guys are wearing that word out to the point where it is just about meaningless.