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Caleb Stegall: Populism now
Dallas Morning News ^ | July 2, 2006 | Caleb Stegall

Posted on 07/11/2006 10:45:31 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy

In the 1980s, the historian and social critic Christopher Lasch pronounced dead the conventional political categories of right and left and argued for a revitalization of politics through a redefinition of terms.

"The idea of a 'left' has outlived its historical time and needs to be decently buried, along with the false conservatism that merely clothes an older liberal tradition in conservative rhetoric."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: crossofgold; failedmovements; freesilver; marxismofretards; mobrule; notconservative; populism; republicnotdemocracy; tomwatson; wjbryant
Fascinating read.
1 posted on 07/11/2006 10:45:35 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Caleb Stegall lives on a farm in Perry, Kan., and practices law. He is editor of The New Pantagruel, an online journal of faith and culture, and is working on a book about prairie populism. His e-mail address is caleb@newpantagruel.com.

What I like about this piece is his analysis and rejection of the totalitarian tendencies of elites.

2 posted on 07/11/2006 10:58:08 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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Although his argument talks a lot about freedom, his prescription would involve a massive amount of governmental social engineering:
Instead, it would seek creative ways to open regional markets for regional goods. (errrr, they're already open to regional goods... does he want county-by-county protectionism or what?)

...And it would provide incentives to keep cultural capital local. It would encourage people to work, study and raise families close to where they grew up. It would seek ways to promote local culture and would cultivate loyalty to our neighbors and a fierce love for our own places.

Sounds utopian enough, but the devil's always in the details. What if someone doesn't want to live in the place they grew up? Would DC forbid it? Would they punish this horrible traveler through taxation?

3 posted on 07/11/2006 11:10:02 PM PDT by inkling
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To: NutCrackerBoy; All

This isn't anything new. Like he just figured out socialists and corporatists are using the American populace as a rope for some sort of financio-idealogical tug-of-war? Somebody tell this guy the Japanese have bombed Pearl Harbor!


4 posted on 07/11/2006 11:15:25 PM PDT by olde north church (Everybody's talking 'bout a two-way woman.)
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To: inkling
His prescription would involve a massive amount of governmental social engineering...

You are probably correct in the end, but I don't think the author is necessarily guilty, yet, of proposing massive government programs. He is at most daydreaming of what good may come if prairie populism, or crunchy conservatism, grows via grassroots into a full-blown movement.

Until and unless these visionaries fall into a clear liberty-destroying trap, I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt that they are not talking about coercion. It is useful to entertain these thought experiments. Theoretically anyway, it would not take massive numbers of laws to permit and to some degree promote classes of transactions desired already by significant numbers of people.

5 posted on 07/11/2006 11:37:44 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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Well stated. I actually have significant sympathies to crunchy con ideals, but I immediately slip to my analytical nature. How do you promote people being more rooted in their communities without limiting the freedom of others? Just because I want deep roots, does that mean that everyone else has to join me?

Nevertheless, as a thought experiment it is very interesting to consider new possibilities.

6 posted on 07/11/2006 11:48:05 PM PDT by inkling
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To: Paleo Conservative; dennisw; Clemenza; Cacique

BTT


7 posted on 07/12/2006 1:03:29 AM PDT by rmlew (I'm a Goldwater Republican... Don Goldwater 2006!)
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To: NutCrackerBoy

Same old socialist tripe with yet another attempt to paste a different face on it.


8 posted on 07/12/2006 3:44:08 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
"The idea of a 'left' has outlived its historical time and needs to be decently buried...

He has got half of it right. Caleb must be an average guy with half his brain tied behind his back.

9 posted on 07/12/2006 3:49:20 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: olde north church
This isn't anything new. Like he just figured out socialists and corporatists are using the American populace as a rope for some sort of financio-idealogical tug-of-war?

You are right of course, it isn't new, neither is his seeming desire to return to a utopia that never existed. Our society and economy is in constant change. I don't see it as a bad or good thing but simply what is, is.

10 posted on 07/12/2006 3:49:56 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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Populism: The Marxism of the Goober set.

Gee, did it ever occur to some of you geniuses that our Constitution was meant to protect the RIGHTS of the individual against the mob? That the founding fathers knew that mob rule descends into tyranny (ie when the mob rules, it lynches?), that half the population has an IQ at or below 100? That the mob can vote to take your guns away and your right to live your life as you see fit?

Lasch is a has-been. Populism has been a failure as a movement in this country on a national level. Hopefully, the goobers and knuckle-draggers will get a clue.

Remember, that 1. the masses are revolting, they REALLY are and that 2. the tyranny of 200 million men is just as evil as that of one man and 3. we are a REPUBLIC, NOT A MOBOCRACY!

11 posted on 07/12/2006 5:42:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (I don't want the world, I just want YOUR half!)
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Well, do you want to be controlled by a disinterested, distant government bureaucrat or a highly interested, motivated, local family patriarch? The dissolution of those local community power structures the author speaks so highly of was a good thing in many ways. The problem was that subsequently, power didn't accrue to the individual, but simply transferred to a higher level authority. Individual freedom was helped to a certain extent because higher authorities generally have too many things to do to be concerned about the minutia of an individual's life...as long as they pay their taxes on time...but the Federal government was empowered immensely.

Populism boils down to a desire for local control of the behavior of people you don't like, as opposed to Federal control of the behavior of people you don't like. ;)

12 posted on 07/12/2006 8:09:20 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Clemenza
Gee, did it ever occur to some of you geniuses that our Constitution was meant to protect the RIGHTS of the individual against the mob?

The Constitution was also meant to preserve the rights of the states against the Federal govt. A state isn't an individual, but a collective.

13 posted on 07/12/2006 1:43:37 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Populism boils down to a desire for local control of the behavior of people you don't like, as opposed to Federal control of the behavior of people you don't like. ;)

All government is about control, but regional control is more responsive than national control. Social engineering is going to be done whether we like it or not. A congresscritter who can't escape to DC and the national elite for months at a time is likely to more solicitous towards his electorate.

14 posted on 07/12/2006 1:47:39 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: Dumb_Ox

The Bill of Rights in both intention and subsequent interpretation is meant to protect the rights of the individual citizen from THE STATE. The 14th Amendment in effect applies all freedoms of the BOR to the (small "s") states.


15 posted on 07/12/2006 2:19:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (I don't want the world, I just want YOUR half!)
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> Populism: The Marxism of the Goober set.

Hahahaha!

And Pat Buchannen is a self-described populist. And yes, a marquee example for the definition.

16 posted on 07/13/2006 12:58:53 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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