Knaves: Rep. John Murtha, who tried to back away from anti-American comments he made last month

The Washington Times ^ | July , 2006

[Clintonfatigued]

On June 24, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported that Mr. Murtha told a townhall meeting in Miami that the "American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran." Newspapers across the country, including this one, as well as columnists, bloggers and pundits criticized Mr. Murtha based on the Sun-Sentinel's article. Mr. Murtha, however, said he was misquoted and succeeded in soliciting a retraction from the Sun-Sentinel's editors.

But despite the Sun-Sentinel's backtracking, the initial characterization of Mr. Murtha's comments was correct, as a video of the town hall meeting makes clear.

Here's what Mr. Murtha actually said: "Every one of our allies think that the United States being in Iraq is more dangerous to world stability and world peace, every one of our allies; Great Britain, every single country... They think it's more, uh, we're more dangerous to world peace than North Korea or Iran. That says something."

Mr. Murtha contends that since he was only citing polling data, it was incorrect for the Sun-Sentinel to attribute the belief that America is more dangerous than North Korea or Iran to him. Of course this begs the question of why Mr. Murtha, had he disagreed with "every one of our allies," cited their opinions in the first place. Watching the video, it is clear which side Mr. Murtha is taking (e.g., the side of America's critics), making the Sun-Sentinel's original reporting of the meeting an honest summation of his comments taken in context.

Mr. Murtha should have the courage to stand behind his words. He doesn't, which is why he's this week's Knave.

-- The Washington Times, “Nobles and Knaves,” July 8, 2006

[GeorgiaDawg32]

Murtha: I said it before I didn't..

[Clintonfatigued]

This is yet another well-written editorial by The Washington Times. John Murtha is trying to back away from comments he made in late June.

DIANA IREY FOR CONGRESS!!!

[Coop]

I've said this from the beginning. Murtha's Clintonesque backpedaling means nothing to me. We all know damn well what he said and what he meant.

[Clintonfatigued]

Diana Irey/John Murtha ping

[Clintonfatigued]

Actually, Murtha's backpedaling is more John Kerry than Bill Clinton. As a previous poster pointed out, Murtha said it before he didn't say it.

[Farmer Dean]

people in this country have short memories,EXCEPTION being when someone like Murtha starts spouting the pure crap he has.I think that he is toast come November.

[1035rep]

"Mr. Murtha should have the courage to stand behind his words. He doesn't, which is why he's this week's Knave."

He was last weeks also.

Murtha is a weak. 

[Coop]

Anyone who would like to be on the Irey/Murtha ping list, please FReepmail me.

www.irey.com

[ThreePuttinDude]

Mr. Murtha contends that since he was only citing polling data, it was incorrect
for the Sun-Sentinel to attribute the belief that America is more dangerous than
North Korea or Iran to him.

I sure seems when President "W" quoted the British for their yellow cake
find, the Libs sure tagged him with coming up with those "16 words"

I really do hate Liberals, with a purple passion.

[NonValueAdded]

Please note that I received an email from a Murtha "truth" squad operative after making a comment on a thread about Murtha's original comment. They used the retraction as proof Murtha didn't say what the video proves he said. It was funny that the approach came via FReepmail and not an open posting as part of the dialog. It smacked of MD4Bush trolling and the mods quickly cleaned up the troll. Here was the exchange:

Re: Murtha and inducements (...Democrats tip-toeing away from Rep. John Murtha...)
From johnsally77 | 06/30/2006 7:29:42 PM EDT replied

Hi. I saw you commenting on this thread.

Did you know that The Sun-Sentinel issued a correction on June 28, stating that they misquoted Murtha because he was actually citing a recent Pew Research Center poll of public opinion in the United States and 14 European, African, and Asian countries.?
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/custom/corrections/sfl-628correx,0,4239586.story?coll=sfla-news-corrections

Re: Murtha and inducements (...Democrats tip-toeing away from Rep. John Murtha...)
To johnsally77 | 06/30/2006 8:59:27 PM EDT sent

Whether he invented itself or repeated it is of little difference. I want to see the transcript or hear the audio to determine the context for myself. What is your interest?

Re: Murtha and inducements (...Democrats tip-toeing away from Rep. John Murtha...)
From johnsally77 | 06/30/2006 9:15:04 PM EDT replied

You did not seem interested in reading a transcript or listening to audio before posting comments on this thread.

Re: Murtha and inducements (...Democrats tip-toeing away from Rep. John Murtha...)
To johnsally77 | 06/30/2006 9:33:41 PM EDT sent

Did not seem? All I did was thank the poster for reminding me to top off Diana Irey's campaign fund. Yet you're assuming, well, what? Go away, troll.

Johnsally77, if you are out there lurking ... nyah nyah nya nyah nyah.

[ThreePuttinDude]

I sure seems = It sure seems


dang

[jazusamo]

Even if Murtha only cited a poll (which he went beyond), he used it to support his position which is the same as saying he agrees with that poll. No amount of back peddling will change that fact.

[Jooge]

In today's Johnstown Tribune Democrat Murtha was on the front page with a interesting article on the fall election.
"Despite Murtha's stance, his re-election is virtually guaranteed, said G. Terry Madonna a political analyst at Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster. Of all the districts in Pennsylvania, it's not on anybody's watch list-not either party,not independent chroniclers." "They've conceded it. There'e no evidence that I've seen that (the war) is a serious factor in his re-election effort. Also in the article was a quote from State GOP Chairman Rob Gleason of Johnstown. "He's brought home the bacon. If that's how you want to judge a congressman or any elected offical, he get's five stars"

[jazusamo]

[Re: Murtha and inducements (...Democrats tip-toeing away from Rep. John Murtha...)
From johnsally77 | 06/30/2006 7:29:42 PM EDT replied

Hi. I saw you commenting on this thread.

Did you know that The Sun-Sentinel issued a correction on June 28, stating that they misquoted Murtha because he was actually citing a recent Pew Research Center poll of public opinion in the United States and 14 European, African, and Asian countries.?
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/custom/corrections/sfl-628correx,0,4239586.story?coll=sfla-news-corrections ]

I received that same message via FReepmail from Johnsally77 but I was away from home. When I returned to find it, I checked the screenname and they'd already been banned.

[1035rep]

bump!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Diana Irey is a real American Patriot!
She's all over the phony cut and run murtha.
Every vet in America needs to back her and sign up for the Veterans Roll Call
The only "vets" who wouldn't would be the "vets" who supported hanoi harry.
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Murtha sides up with Code Pink

Code Pink has given $650,000 to the terrorists in Fallujah, participated in war crimes tribunals against America and has called American soldiers "killers" on their website among many treasonous actions. They display signs like "Maimed for a Lie" at Walter Reed Army Medical Center where wounded troops are healing.
Text of Code Pink's statement on meeting Rep. Murtha:
Thank You Congressman Murtha! CODEPINK co-founder Gael Murphy and DC coordinator Allison Yorra met with Congressman Murtha to thank him for his courageous stand on Iraq. We presented him with our pink badge of courage and pink flowers sent by CODEPINK members nationwide.

Murtha's "Cut & Run" Comments on Iraq: "there's no progress at all" "it's worse than it was prewar" "we should immediatley redeploy" "War cannot be won on the ground" "I have said it's a civil war" "We cannot win this militarily. Our tactics themselves keep us from winning,"

Murtha's Comments on our Troops: "Would you join (the military) today?," he was asked in an interview. "No," replied Murtha "And I think you're saying the average guy out there who's considering recruitment is justified in saying 'I don't want to serve'," the interviewer continued. "Exactly right," said Murtha "we have become a catalyst for violence" in Iraq Marines "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." at Haditha "I will not excuse murder, and this is what happened" "This is worse than Abu Ghraib" "Hopefully, this is an isolated incident. But we're supposed to be selling ideas of America, ideals of America, and we're losing that war." "These kind of things have to be brought out immediately," he told "This Week," "because if the Marines got away with it, other Marines might think it's okay." "What they're saying to me is we're stretching the military too thin. The army is broken, and we couldn't deploy to a second front if we wanted to." "The troops don't know what to do. They don't have the direction they need in order to supervise the prisoners,"

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[Jooge]

Here's my point. Who is the Pennsylvania GOP Chairman supporting in the fall election Murtha or Irey? Gleason will talk about getting Swann elected Governor and Santroum re-elected Senator but he doesn't say anything about Irey.

[Coop]

Here's my point. So what?

[Gucho]

The Murtha of All Morons