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Boeing Dreamliner 'coming to life'
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | Tuesday, June 27, 2006 | JAMES WALLACE

Posted on 06/27/2006 9:15:38 AM PDT by skeptoid

NAGOYA, Japan -- For Boeing's Everett engineers working on the company's first all-new commercial jetliner in more than a decade, the dream begins here.s

In this Japanese industrial city far from The Boeing Co.'s Puget Sound roots, in a factory built just for the 787 Dreamliner, Fuji Heavy Industries has completed the first large composite section that will go on the first 787 to fly next year.

Measuring 17.4 feet long by 19 feet wide, the composite structure is the lower skin of the center wing box, a critical section of the jet where the 787 wings will be attached. The wing box also serves as the center fuel tank.

Piece by monstrous piece, Boeing and its partners are building an airplane in an entirely new way that circles the globe.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 787; boeing; dreamliner; lcf
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This is the most comprehesive article on the 787 that I've seen. More articles later this week.

See the source for photo gallery and check for more articles tomorrow and Thursday.

1 posted on 06/27/2006 9:15:40 AM PDT by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid

Notice: They're building it in Japan.
More American manufacturing jobs lost.


2 posted on 06/27/2006 9:19:35 AM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

The 787's are being built in the U.S.

Some of the components are being built abroad.

Would you rather have a plane that was too expensive for anybody to buy, resulting in absolutely no jobs?


3 posted on 06/27/2006 9:23:27 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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--Would you rather have a plane that was too expensive for anybody to buy, resulting in absolutely no jobs?--

No kidding. How could anyone think that Boeing is bad for the country.


4 posted on 06/27/2006 9:24:55 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: XR7
Wrong.

They're building parts of it in Japan. Which translates into more sales of the aircraft to Japanese carriers. Which means more airplanes to build, thus more jobs here at home.

The parts built there were determined by competitive bid. No American company had the expertise to compete with FHI in that arena. It certainly wasn't low worker salaries that won the bid.

Additionally, Boeing added engineering and production positions to ramp up for the assembly of this aircraft, here at home. Those jobs pay more and are higher skilled than what was subcontracted to overseas partners.

5 posted on 06/27/2006 9:26:43 AM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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To: XR7
More American manufacturing jobs lost.

Vapid comment. Learn something about manufacturing and then come back and post.

6 posted on 06/27/2006 9:30:27 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Paleo Conservative

aerospace ping


7 posted on 06/27/2006 9:33:04 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: sam_paine
The union and Everett demands last time Boeing even thought about expanding up in the Northwest were so outrageous the company basically just threw up it's hands and shut up. Boeing may not walk away from the State of Washington anytime soon, but anyone who thinks Boeing will go out of its way to give Washington, and increasingly anywhere else in the US, a leg up has not been paying attention.
8 posted on 06/27/2006 9:37:48 AM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: XR7
I've noticed and my state's content to let even more of their production move away. You'd think it would cause the serfs to stand up and throw the liberals out of office that caused the anti-business climate, just the opposite is true.

You see, Boeing is a dirty manufacturing process and they use far too much energy, natural resources, contributor to global warming and they curry too many tax breaks. We want businesses like Starbuck's, granola farmers and of course don't mess with our pot.
9 posted on 06/27/2006 9:38:39 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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More American manufacturing jobs lost.

Buy American, if you can find something American. Here is a can of Fred Meyer Refried Beans. The company listed on the label is Inter-American Products, Inc. Can't get much more American.

10 posted on 06/27/2006 9:38:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: liberty_lvr
They're building parts of it in Japan.

Including the wings, I see. Isn't that a bit surprising - I thought the wings were the technology that every aircraft maker kept to themselves?
11 posted on 06/27/2006 9:39:09 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: XR7

Whatever hogwash that statement is in the long run, it still doesn't cover the fact that....

...the BRAINtrust, the DESIGN, is based in America. I'll take brain-power jobs over manual jobs any day. It means we have the ability to *truly* sustain ourselves, as long as we have the brains and the freedom to use them.


12 posted on 06/27/2006 9:41:09 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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The original building where the famous Japanese Zero fighter plane of WW II was designed is visible from Mitsubishi's 787 wing composite plant in Nagoya, Japan. The fighter was produced in an area of the new plant where Mitsubishi will manufacture the composite wings of the 787. (June 27, 2006) James Wallace/Seattle Post-Intelligencer

Maybe someday we'll see IED factories in Iraq turned into TV manufacturing plants!

13 posted on 06/27/2006 9:43:07 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: liberty_lvr

Like tax rates, sometimes jobs are a case of less is more.


14 posted on 06/27/2006 9:43:45 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: XR7; All

...and my company here in Wichita does work for Fuji, Kawasaki, and Mitsubishi!!!

...more American jobs found!


15 posted on 06/27/2006 9:53:03 AM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: thinkthenpost; bigfootbob; XR7
[boeing] basically just threw up it's hands and shut up

True and sad. The thing to remember is that the free market exists among humans whether individual governments and unions and grousers try to suppress it or not. If you try to push back on it here, it will expand somewhere else. How do people like XR7 not 'get' this?

How many people bitch about Intel's (and AMD's -complete- dominance of the PC business? Shipping chips from Oregon and Austin should make them happy. However, it only happens that Intel CPU's make up 80% of the value of a PC because they standardized the PC business to let the razor thin margin sections move to Asia (taiwan/china ODM's).

Imagine mandating that Dell only use US manufacturing to build PCs. End of the road for US PC technology.

16 posted on 06/27/2006 9:54:01 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Maybe someday we'll see IED factories in Iraq turned into TV manufacturing plants!

That would be fantastic. And we probably won't have to nuke 'em like we did Japan.

Bad joke......but I see similarities.

17 posted on 06/27/2006 9:55:19 AM PDT by skeptoid
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To: coconutt2000; XR7
Would you rather have a plane that was too expensive for anybody to buy, resulting in absolutely no jobs?

For better or worse, building commercial aircraft from the size of a 737 and larger has become a world wide duopoly. There really is only room for two manufacturers. If Boeing only had domestic US content in its planes, they would be ceding much of the international market for their aircraft to Airbus, because Airbus would make sure parts from countries of potential customers would be in their planes. Boeing is using Russian engineers to develop the 747-400LCF freighter that will be used to transport components built by various suppliers to Boeing's factory near Seattle. Boeing is also buying lots of Russian titanium that will be used for the rings that hold the sections of composite fuselage together.

18 posted on 06/27/2006 10:04:05 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: sam_paine

Yeah - I've always wondered why the folks at Mitsubishi weren't smart enough to name their products something else.


19 posted on 06/27/2006 10:07:32 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: XR7
Major composite parts, mainly.

Otherwise, no Japanese sales. Plus, we are helping the Japanese redevelop their defense industries.

20 posted on 06/27/2006 10:11:08 AM PDT by pierrem15
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