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US defends secret money tracking
BBC ^ | Friday, 23 June 2006, 17:34 GMT 18:34 UK | BBC Staff

Posted on 06/23/2006 2:09:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

US defends secret money tracking

Bundles of US dollars

Tens of thousands of transactions were scrutinised

US Treasury Secretary John Snow has defended a secret programme which has been tracking international money transactions for nearly five years.

"This programme is an effective weapon in the larger war on terror," he said.

The scheme, which has sifted huge amounts of data from an international banking consortium, was revealed by the New York Times newspaper on Friday.

The US treasury says the programme was strictly confined to the records of suspected foreign terrorists.

Although there is no direct connection, the programme has echoes of a recently revealed US surveillance programme in which millions of international and domestic phone calls and e-mails were monitored, correspondents say.

They say that although the US government insists it acted on a firm legal footing, this programme is likely to elicit similar charges of enfringement of civil liberties.

'Safeguards'

"This programme is making a real difference," Mr Snow said. "It works. It's based on appropriate legal authorities, it has built-in safeguards and controls."

He said the treasury was using "the tools that Congress has given us to follow the flow of terrorist money".

"These flows ... lead to the terrorists themselves," he said.

The financial tracking scheme began in the aftermath of the 11 September 2001 attacks on the US using emergency powers invoked by President George W Bush, the New York Times revealed.

The administration's extraordinary access to this vast repository of international financial data... is a matter of public interest

Bill Keller
New York Times

The newspaper spoke to some 20 anonymous current or former government officials or industry executives.

The government used powers of administrative subpoena to compel the Brussels-based banking co-operative, Swift, to open its records.

Swift - the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication - links about 7,800 financial institutions around the world, including virtually every major bank and brokerage.

It provides banks with instructions on how to transfer funds - instructions which include information on the individuals sending money and the amount of money sent.

The treasury department said it had carried out "tens or hundreds" of thousands of name searches on the data.

Mr Snow said the programme had been implemented in a "highly responsible" manner, with corporate and external auditors observing the process.

In a statement on its website, Swift said: "Swift takes its role as a key infrastructure of the international financial system very seriously and co-operates with authorities to prevent illegal uses of the international financial system. Where required, Swift has to comply with valid subpoenas...

Messenger on fire

Officials quoted by the newspaper said the programme had helped in the capture of Hambali, blamed for a string of bombings across South East Asia.

But some expressed reservations, suggesting it was inappropriate for an urgent, apparently temporary programme to remain in operation for years without formal or congressional authorisation.

Others familiar with the programme told the paper they believed it exploited a "grey area" in the law.

We are disappointed that once again the New York Times has chosen to expose a classified programme that is working to protect Americans

Dana Perino
White House spokeswoman

Meanwhile, the New York Times came under fire from the White House for revealing the programme.

"We are disappointed that once again the New York Times has chosen to expose a classified programme that is working to protect Americans," said spokeswoman Dana Perino.

But the newspaper's executive editor Bill Keller said: "We remain convinced that the administration's extraordinary access to this vast repository of international financial data, however carefully targeted use of it may be, is a matter of public interest."




TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush43; globaljihad; govwatch; gwot; johnsnow; moneytracking; moneytrail; swift; treasury; waronterror
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1 posted on 06/23/2006 2:09:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I am really sick of the press....so now they are going to whine...the administration is defending themselves..

SCUM.....lowlife scum sucking....&%#!@^!!!!

2 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:19 PM PDT by Dog (149 Democratic Members of the party of Harry Truman Voted Against Victory..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Defends??? I insist on it.

I really sense the media has sunk the democrats. They are the enemy's newspapers.

3 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:21 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Although there is no direct connection, the programme has echoes of a recently revealed US surveillance programme in which millions of international and domestic phone calls and e-mails were monitored, correspondents say."

Bull!


4 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:35 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bill Keller needs to be held accountable for the damage he has done to the security of this country.
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This SH!T has GOT to STOP!!!


5 posted on 06/23/2006 2:11:36 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The New York Times should be closed as a subversive organisation and anyone caught with one of their papers be prosecuted for financing terror.


6 posted on 06/23/2006 2:13:03 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

You realize Bush's poll numbers went up to 44%. So they had to come out with this!!!
This is the same method the US government uses to track drug dealers and mafia money. All legal.
Ping me if it's not..


7 posted on 06/23/2006 2:14:39 PM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: griswold3

Don't make any big deposits the Monday after the Super Bowl if you catch my drift.


8 posted on 06/23/2006 2:16:14 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The New York Slimes - Al Qaeda's intel department.
10 posted on 06/23/2006 2:20:52 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The government needs to show some balls and obtain subpoenas against these reporters revealing these classified programs so we can find out their sources.

If the NYT believes they have a constitutional right to reveal classified programs without having to reveal their sources and without legal penalty, let them try that argument in court. Most of the American people will, I believe, side with the government and not the NYT when it comes to revealing classified surveillance methods used against terrorists.

The media has changed. In World War II, the major media would never have published something like this, tipping off the enemy to our methods of surveillance.

So now it's time for law enforcement to change, too. We need to prosecute those revealing these classified programs. If we need new laws so that reporters can be convicted as well as the source, so be it. We do have, and ought to have, a method by which whistleblowers can reveal wrong-doing within the government. This does not appear to fall within that exception.


11 posted on 06/23/2006 2:22:37 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Williams
Defends??? I insist on it.

Mega Dittos!

12 posted on 06/23/2006 2:24:59 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: All
FR Post on the NY Times article:

Bank Data Secretly Reviewed by U.S. to Fight Terror

And Washington Post article:

Bank Records Secretly Tapped
Administration Began Using Global Database Shortly After 2001 Attacks

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Terrorism investigators had sought access to SWIFT's database since the 1990s, but other government and industry authorities balked at the potential blow to confidence in the banking system. After the 2001 attacks, President Bush overrode those objections and invoked his powers under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to "investigate, regulate or prohibit" any foreign financial transaction linked to "an unusual and extraordinary threat."

Levey and other officials emphasized that the government has confined its financial surveillance to legitimate terrorism investigations and tightly targeted searches.

After identifying a suspect, Levey said, "you can do a search, and you can determine whom he sent money to, and who sent money to him."

"The way the SWIFT data works, you would have all kinds of concrete information -- addresses, phone numbers, real names, account numbers, a lot of stuff we can really work with, the kind of actionable information that government officials can really follow up on," Levey said.

He spoke about the program after it became clear the New York Times was planning to publish an article about it. The Times and other news organizations posted articles online last night.

Levey maintained that the government has "put into place very robust controls to make sure we are only using this information for anti-terrorism purposes."

13 posted on 06/23/2006 2:25:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Anybody who thinks that international funds transfers are secret and confidential should ask Manuel Noriega and Pablo Escobar, amongst others.

The interesting thing to me is that they finally convinced SWIFT to open its records. That has been sought ever since the WOD started. SWIFT resisted furiously throughout the 1980s.

Maybe 9/11 made believers out of some Belgians, too.

14 posted on 06/23/2006 2:26:02 PM PDT by WarEagle (Karl Rove did it....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

this would be great in the fight against pornography and gambling.


15 posted on 06/23/2006 2:36:05 PM PDT by balch3
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To: Dog

I had my stream of consciousness reply all ready to go and then saw you were reading my mind so...what you said.


16 posted on 06/23/2006 2:52:39 PM PDT by Bahbah (Democrat Motto: Why not the worst)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And Interpol has done it for years in Europe, big deal about nothing.


17 posted on 06/23/2006 2:55:24 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The stench within the "Intelligence Community" is unbearable!

I hope this liberal "whistle-blower" is caught and prosecuted.

18 posted on 06/23/2006 3:15:12 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: TexasCajun

Fox News Special report is spending some time on various aspects of this report,....had a clip of Cheney in Chicago commenting....he was unhappy with the news media that choose to publish ....


19 posted on 06/23/2006 3:20:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: All; Dog; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; Marine_Uncle
Jim Angle interviewed the Stuart Levy Treasury Official that oversees the Program,...gives detail on the Safeguards, ....which seemed extensive.....

From Website:

New York Times Refuses to Hold Surveillance Story

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New York Times Refuses to Hold Surveillance Story
Friday, June 23, 2006

NEW YORK — The Bush administration and The New York Times are again at odds over , this time with new reports of a broad government effort to track global financial transfers.

The newspaper, which in December broke news of an effort by the to monitor Americans' telephone calls and e-mails, declined a White House request not to publish a story about the government's inspection of monies flowing in and out of the country.

The Los Angeles Times also reported on the issue Thursday night on its Web site, against the Bush administration's wishes. The Wall Street Journal said it received no request to hold its report of the surveillance.

Administration officials were concerned that news reports of the program would diminish its effectiveness and could harm overall national security.

FOX Fan Speakout: If you were president, would YOU ask the press not to publish stories that might diminish the effectiveness of criminal investigations?

"It's a tough call; it was not a decision made lightly," said Doyle McManus, the Los Angeles Times' Washington bureau chief. "The key issue here is whether the government has shown that there are adequate safeguards in these programs to give American citizens confidence that information that should remain private is being protected."

(Story continues below)


20 posted on 06/23/2006 3:33:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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