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'Movimiento' aims to take back America
New York Newsday ^ | June 15, 2006 | James Pinkerton

Posted on 06/15/2006 7:24:29 PM PDT by rmlew

Advocates of an open border between the U.S. and Mexico do their best to present a mellow American flag-waving image to the public. But when they gather in semiprivate, they communicate much differently to each other. Perhaps they need to be even more careful.

In the big pro-immigration marches this spring, Hispanic activists sought to present themselves as "civil rights" advocates in the gentle and inclusive tradition of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. Oh sure, some of the recent marchers went "off message," carrying Mexican flags and calling for "reconquista," but for the most part, the demonstrators were well-behaved.

But offstage, as it were, a different and harsher truth comes out. It's not a "movement," they tell each other when cameras aren't watching, it's a "movimiento" - and that Spanish-language phrasing speaks volumes about the true tilt of pro-immigration activists.

How do I know this? On Tuesday, I attended a panel discussion entitled "The New Immigrants Movement," part of a "Take Back America" conference convened in Washington, D.C., by the left-wing Campaign for America's Future. The event was open to anyone, although fewer than 100 people showed up. But to give you a flavor of the meeting, here are the surnames of the people on the panel: Lovato, Salas, Contreras, Lopez, Ramirez and another Lopez. All Hispanic - and some quite angry.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Mexico; US: New York
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; aztlan; communists; continentalist; illegalaiens; immigrant; immigrantlist; immigrants; latinamerica; revbanchists; sandinistas; sovereignty
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This is what the immigration debate is really about.
1 posted on 06/15/2006 7:24:32 PM PDT by rmlew
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To: rmlew

bump for publicity


2 posted on 06/15/2006 7:25:53 PM PDT by VOA
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To: gubamyster; Paleo Conservative; Cacique; Clemenza

ping


3 posted on 06/15/2006 7:25:58 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: rmlew

Earth to Bush...Earth to Bush...


4 posted on 06/15/2006 7:29:27 PM PDT by Excellence (Since November 6, 1998)
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To: rmlew

I must be in a bad mood today, I know what I really want to post would get pulled.

And so would my second and third thoughts.

I am sick of these socialist trying to take over our country, I end up wondering if we really are going to have to resort to the "third box" to stop them.


5 posted on 06/15/2006 7:33:28 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Richard-SIA

They've been trying for over a hundred years now.

Calm down, they are no closer now than then. Other generations will have the same problems too no doubt.


6 posted on 06/15/2006 7:43:54 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: rmlew
Speaking first, Lovato declared that he had problems with the words "civil rights." Why? In part because that phrase had been used by black Americans half a century ago - it was their term. But mostly, he continued, the term is inapt because today "a lot of the members of the movement were political revolutionaries in countries such as Nicaragua and El Salvador." And that's why, he concluded, "this is not just a civil rights movement - this is the northernmost expression of a continental rights movement."


BBBBut they just want to do jobs Americans won't do....
7 posted on 06/15/2006 7:46:01 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: buwaya

That really depends on what the house and senate do this year.

I can hope you are right, but I have real doubts.


8 posted on 06/15/2006 7:46:11 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: rmlew; Egon
And that's why, he concluded, "this is not just a civil rights movement - this is the northernmost expression of a continental rights movement." -- Roberto Lovato

"Reframing it as a 'new civil rights movement' risks erasing its roots in the Latin American struggles and history." Is that clear enough? Then, for good measure, Lovato's article cites the "radical" efforts of one Miguel Ramirez, who left El Salvador in 1979 and now heads up Centro Hispano Cuzcatlán in Queens. The transnational experience of Ramirez and others, "shows that the U.S. movimiento is ... the northernmost expression of a resurgent Latin American left." -- Roberto Lovato

Not even Bush's idea of trilateral hemispherism, this is reconquista!

9 posted on 06/15/2006 7:46:18 PM PDT by RhoTheta (If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't prepare properly.)
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It is nothing less than the destruction of this country.

Too bad the media shilled for the illegals. Otherwise Americans would know this.
10 posted on 06/15/2006 7:48:23 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: rmlew
Guadalupe-Hildago.

Not one in fifty Americans even know of it, much less know what's in it. We repudiate it by default.

11 posted on 06/15/2006 7:50:27 PM PDT by stboz
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"Calm down, they are no closer now than then."

What? Since good old Reagan gave them amnesty there have been millions more over the border so how in the heck can you suggest that nothing has changed. It's simple math.


12 posted on 06/15/2006 7:58:48 PM PDT by SQUID
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To: rmlew

13 posted on 06/15/2006 8:01:57 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Don't fall for the soft bigotry of assuming all Hispanics are pro-amnesty. www.dontspeakforme.org)
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To: rmlew

The university culture is one place where they don't hide motives.

Their groups aggressively call for giving the entire Southwest (and more) to Mexico, complete with a revolutionary blood-letting of whomever gets in their way.


14 posted on 06/15/2006 8:02:20 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: SteveMcKing

But...b-but....what about those family values not stopping at the Rio Grande? Was that just the pile of dung it sounded like the first time I heard it?


15 posted on 06/15/2006 8:10:02 PM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav (By the time you understand women, you are one.)
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To: rmlew

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1649818/posts?page=7#5

Somebody rework this, please. The Capitol or the White House needs to be in the background.


16 posted on 06/15/2006 8:10:12 PM PDT by Excellence (Since November 6, 1998)
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To: rmlew

The sense of alarm from Pinkerton is fascinating. He's not exactly a red meat conservative minute man type. If Pinkerton is gagging on open borders then the Senate bill is truly doomed. Praise HUITZILOPOCHTLI.


17 posted on 06/15/2006 8:13:24 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: rmlew

It looks like the MEChA crowd was there.


18 posted on 06/15/2006 8:15:33 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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To: rmlew

I wonder what our options are when our U.S. government won't protect us against foreign invasion?


19 posted on 06/15/2006 9:30:42 PM PDT by Mogollon
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To: rmlew

Thanks for posting on this important issue.


20 posted on 06/15/2006 9:44:38 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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