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Ann Coulter Was Wrong
Accuracy In Media ^
| 6/13/2006
| Cliff Kincaid
Posted on 06/13/2006 3:02:44 PM PDT by Mike Bates
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Not to stir things up or anything. . . . :)
To: Mike Bates
At the outset I note that she is not reporting "news" but is rather engaged in polemics. A little hyperbole never hurt anyone and is a legitimate rhetorical device.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:04:40 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
To: Mike Bates
"In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. "Facts ONLY matter according to who the "journalist" is.
To: Mike Bates
Let's call a spade a spade--Ann doesn't know how these women feel, and she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths.
Her point--about the way these women are point out there to spout anti-Bush rhetoric but are unable to be criticized because of their personal loss--is a valid one. But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths.
To: Mike Bates
You... you... you stirrer!
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:05:43 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Hey Senators, what have you done with those Conservatives we sent to Congress? (CyberAnt Inspired))
To: Mike Bates
In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:07:28 PM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
To: Darkwolf377
But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths. She also has no idea if the dead husbands were going to divorce these women.
Coulter is projecting: she's been dumped so many times for being bitchy, she presumes that's the way every woman is treated.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:08:28 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Today, we settled all family business.)
To: Darkwolf377
Or to differentiate in another way, I don't think she meant that they enjoyed the actual deaths themselves, but rather the fruits of their deaths - the added attention, the celebratory mourning, and lots of other unseemly behaviors.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:08:35 PM PDT
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: Darkwolf377
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:08:48 PM PDT
by
Peach
(If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
To: Mike Bates
I have often been a critic of Coulter, and this controversy illustrates my point: Are we discussing the substantive issues she raises in her book, or has this just turned into an argument about Coulter? The latter, obviously, and that is the problem. As for the outrage of liberals, I'd like to see their outrage at some of the over-the-top claims that liberals make about Bush, conservatives, etc. Someday, when pigs fly and hell freezes over . . .
To: Mike Bates
Cliffy's undies are in a knot
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:10:13 PM PDT
by
UB355
(Slower Traffic Keep Right)
To: Mike Bates
Coulter's comments are not only false but cruel. She has also made other disparaging personal comments about the women. Unfortunately, nothing really beyond comments that these women themselves have made about others, while appearing to revel in their circumstance.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:10:22 PM PDT
by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: sinkspur
Coulter is projecting: she's been dumped so many times for being bitchy, she presumes that's the way every woman is treated.Thank you, Dan Rather, for putting out further made up "facts."
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:10:49 PM PDT
by
TheConservator
(Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
To: Mike Bates
Coulter: "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."
Kincaid: "[S]he is claiming to have inside knowledge of the personal psychology of this group of women who lost their husbands on 9/11."
++++++
Accuracy In Media?
LOL
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:11:15 PM PDT
by
Sam Hill
To: Mike Bates
I'm surprised Cliff is taking this view... usually, he's on-target with his analysis.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:11:17 PM PDT
by
johnny7
(“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
To: DoughtyOne
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:11:35 PM PDT
by
Mike Bates
(Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
To: TheConservator
It's called Coulterism: if Ann can make up facts about 9/11 widows, facts can be made up about her.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:11:58 PM PDT
by
sinkspur
(Today, we settled all family business.)
To: Mike Bates
They certainly enjoyed the spotlight and the celebrity. I think that's beyond dispute.
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posted on
06/13/2006 3:12:20 PM PDT
by
Kenny Bunkport
(Left's reaction to "GODLESS": "They haven't hated a book this much since the Bible." (pissant))
To: Mike Bates
In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. Opinions are allowed, and Coulter, a columnist for Human Events and many other newspapers, is entitled to her own opinions. But why would someone offer an opinion about what was supposedly going through the minds of these women when the most obvious conclusion, based on the nature of the horrendous 9/11 attacks and the deaths that resulted, is that such a loss was a terrible tragedy that caused incredible suffering for all of those concerned. 1. Coulter is not a journalist; she is an opinion writer and an entertainer.
2. She was not offering an opinion about what was supposedly going through their minds, but rather was making, in very acerbic language, a valid point about the common practice of the left to hide behind sympathetic human shields and using these tragic figures as spokesperson for their agenda. While criticizing the way Coulter said it, this girly man fails to even address her point and the context of what Coulter said. To that end, Coulter was entirely right even if one disagrees with some of the phrasing she used to make her point.
To: Mike Bates
All Coulter was talking about was the propensity of the left to use tragedies as a lever to innoculate politically active people against open debate.
These women were taking advantage of their husband's deaths to gain an advantage in a political debate.
Coulter is correct.
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