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Ann Coulter Was Wrong
Accuracy In Media ^ | 6/13/2006 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 06/13/2006 3:02:44 PM PDT by Mike Bates

In the controversy over Ann Coulter's comments about the group of 9/11 widows, there is one critical question, from the point of view of ensuring standards of accuracy in the media. How does Coulter know it to be true that, "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much." There is no evidence whatsoever that those women enjoyed their husbands' deaths, and Coulter offers none. The only "evidence" for this preposterous and hurtful claim is that the women became activists and sought the media spotlight and took a political position at odds with that of Coulter. But what does that prove?

I think Coulter probably would have been correct to say that the women appeared to enjoy the media attention. You don't go on these shows unless you enjoy them to some degree. But enjoying a death? And the death of a loved one when fatherless children were left behind? Coulter's comments are not only false but cruel. She has also made other disparaging personal comments about the women.

In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. Opinions are allowed, and Coulter, a columnist for Human Events and many other newspapers, is entitled to her own opinions.

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If the matter only involved personal opinions about people or things, Coulter's comments wouldn't really be newsworthy or significant. But she is claiming to have inside knowledge of the personal psychology of this group of women who lost their husbands on 9/11. That is why the comments have generated so much outrage—except from a few conservatives unwilling to criticize her.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; annhaters; cliffkincaid; coulter; crazycoulter; cruelcoulter; jealousloser; jeffwho; omniscientann; who
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Not to stir things up or anything. . . . :)
1 posted on 06/13/2006 3:02:45 PM PDT by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

At the outset I note that she is not reporting "news" but is rather engaged in polemics. A little hyperbole never hurt anyone and is a legitimate rhetorical device.


2 posted on 06/13/2006 3:04:40 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Mike Bates
"In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. "

Facts ONLY matter according to who the "journalist" is.

3 posted on 06/13/2006 3:05:02 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Mike Bates
Let's call a spade a spade--Ann doesn't know how these women feel, and she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths.

Her point--about the way these women are point out there to spout anti-Bush rhetoric but are unable to be criticized because of their personal loss--is a valid one. But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths.

4 posted on 06/13/2006 3:05:26 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Mike Bates

You... you... you stirrer!


5 posted on 06/13/2006 3:05:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Senators, what have you done with those Conservatives we sent to Congress? (CyberAnt Inspired))
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To: Mike Bates
In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter.


6 posted on 06/13/2006 3:07:28 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: Darkwolf377
But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths.

She also has no idea if the dead husbands were going to divorce these women.

Coulter is projecting: she's been dumped so many times for being bitchy, she presumes that's the way every woman is treated.

7 posted on 06/13/2006 3:08:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Or to differentiate in another way, I don't think she meant that they enjoyed the actual deaths themselves, but rather the fruits of their deaths - the added attention, the celebratory mourning, and lots of other unseemly behaviors.


8 posted on 06/13/2006 3:08:35 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Darkwolf377

Exactly.


9 posted on 06/13/2006 3:08:48 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Mike Bates

I have often been a critic of Coulter, and this controversy illustrates my point: Are we discussing the substantive issues she raises in her book, or has this just turned into an argument about Coulter? The latter, obviously, and that is the problem. As for the outrage of liberals, I'd like to see their outrage at some of the over-the-top claims that liberals make about Bush, conservatives, etc. Someday, when pigs fly and hell freezes over . . .


10 posted on 06/13/2006 3:09:10 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Mike Bates

Cliffy's undies are in a knot


11 posted on 06/13/2006 3:10:13 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower Traffic Keep Right)
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To: Mike Bates
Coulter's comments are not only false but cruel. She has also made other disparaging personal comments about the women.

Unfortunately, nothing really beyond comments that these women themselves have made about others, while appearing to revel in their circumstance.

12 posted on 06/13/2006 3:10:22 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: sinkspur
Coulter is projecting: she's been dumped so many times for being bitchy, she presumes that's the way every woman is treated.

Thank you, Dan Rather, for putting out further made up "facts."

13 posted on 06/13/2006 3:10:49 PM PDT by TheConservator (Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
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To: Mike Bates

Coulter: "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

Kincaid: "[S]he is claiming to have inside knowledge of the personal psychology of this group of women who lost their husbands on 9/11."

++++++

Accuracy In Media?

LOL


14 posted on 06/13/2006 3:11:15 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Mike Bates

I'm surprised Cliff is taking this view... usually, he's on-target with his analysis.


15 posted on 06/13/2006 3:11:17 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: DoughtyOne

Busted!


16 posted on 06/13/2006 3:11:35 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: TheConservator

It's called Coulterism: if Ann can make up facts about 9/11 widows, facts can be made up about her.


17 posted on 06/13/2006 3:11:58 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Mike Bates

They certainly enjoyed the spotlight and the celebrity. I think that's beyond dispute.


18 posted on 06/13/2006 3:12:20 PM PDT by Kenny Bunkport (Left's reaction to "GODLESS": "They haven't hated a book this much since the Bible." (pissant))
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To: Mike Bates
In journalism, facts and truth are supposed to matter. Opinions are allowed, and Coulter, a columnist for Human Events and many other newspapers, is entitled to her own opinions. But why would someone offer an opinion about what was supposedly going through the minds of these women when the most obvious conclusion, based on the nature of the horrendous 9/11 attacks and the deaths that resulted, is that such a loss was a terrible tragedy that caused incredible suffering for all of those concerned.

1. Coulter is not a journalist; she is an opinion writer and an entertainer.

2. She was not offering an opinion about what was supposedly going through their minds, but rather was making, in very acerbic language, a valid point about the common practice of the left to hide behind sympathetic human shields and using these tragic figures as spokesperson for their agenda. While criticizing the way Coulter said it, this girly man fails to even address her point and the context of what Coulter said. To that end, Coulter was entirely right even if one disagrees with some of the phrasing she used to make her point.

19 posted on 06/13/2006 3:12:20 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Mike Bates

All Coulter was talking about was the propensity of the left to use tragedies as a lever to innoculate politically active people against open debate.

These women were taking advantage of their husband's deaths to gain an advantage in a political debate.

Coulter is correct.


20 posted on 06/13/2006 3:12:32 PM PDT by Tom Bombadil
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