Posted on 06/06/2006 3:05:36 PM PDT by JulieRNR21
Harris Campaign Calls on Nelson to Defend Sanctity of Marriage
For Immediate Release June 6, 2006 Contact: Chris Ingram (813) 288-8400
(Tampa, Fla.) - The Katherine Harris for U.S. Senate campaign called on Senator Bill Nelson to support the Marriage Protection Amendment today.
"I believe the majority of Americans strongly support the preservation of traditional marriage. We must never undermine the uniqueness of an institution that continues to serve as an essential thread in the fabric of our society. I support the passage of the Marriage Protection amendment being debated in the Senate," Congresswoman Harris said.
Campaign spokesman Chris Ingram said, "It's time for Nelson to stop making bogus claims of being a moderate in Florida while voting like Ted Kennedy in Washington, D.C. Bill Nelson should stop voting like a liberal and start voting with the values of common-sense Floridians.
A good first-start would be by voting in favor of the marriage amendment which simply defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman."
We must never undermine the uniqueness of an institution that continues to serve as an essential thread in the fabric of our society. I support the passage of the Marriage Protection amendment being debated in the Senate," Congresswoman Harris said.
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The Katherine Harris for U.S. Senate campaign called on Senator Bill Nelson to support the Marriage Protection Amendment today.
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Time for Nelson to demonstrate that he's not a liberal like...... kennedy, kerry & klinton!
Good stuff. Hold that blithering idiot's feet to the fire.
I'm just here for the obligatory pictures.
They most certainly do not.
That's why we're here.
1) It is permanent.
2) It is sexually exclusive.
3) It is between a man and at least one woman.
Which of these does Mrs. Harris support?
This could be her ticket to the senate.
I don't care which party you belong to, a vast majority of Americans don't support GM.
She is being smart here by making him take a definitive stand.
What do you want to bet he answers in nuanced tones???
Go KH!
We must never undermine the uniqueness of an institution that continues to serve as an essential thread in the fabric of our society. I support the passage of the Marriage Protection amendment being debated in the Senate," Congresswoman Harris said.
I hate to pop her bubble, but the 10 million couples living together outside of marriage and the 1 million divorces a year pose an infinitely greater danger to marriage than the piddly 6000 same sex marriages in Massachusetts. I'm trying to figure out how any of those 6000 are endangering my marriage.
Why in God's name do we need a bill that favors marriage. I believe most people do.
Marriage is what it is.
If Congress declared that all animal tails were all now legs, it would change nothing at all.
Hope you'll join us as her campaign moves along this summer.
Leni
Traditional marriage has three partners,God, the male and the female.
Because we have judges who don't favor traditional marriage and are changing the will of the people.
We need this amendment because while Forty-three states have statutes defining marriage to one man and one woman... activist liberal judges (most recently in Georgia) have been saying those statutes are unconstitutional.
So we need to make the definition of traditional marriage part of our national Constitution.
Good for you, Congresswoman!! The Dems are out there hollering, "we've got more important business to tend to" and "this administration is just trying to appeal to their radical right-wing base" and other things from their talking points memo so that they don't have to take a stand on this issue. They know full well that a good number of even Dems hold to the sanctity of traditional marriage, and they don't want to be on record one way or another lest they pit one special interest group against another.
Conservative women are good-looking AND smart!
If sanctioned within the law, those 6000 same sex marriages will be telling our children and grandchildren that sexual perversion is normal. It's okay. Come on and try it, you will like it.
Howdy! Many thanks for the bump!
Those 6000 in MA can move to states that don't recognize same-sex marriages create an expensive legal mess!
FoxNews reported that many black ministers lobbied Dem Senators today to support the Marriage Amendment. Blacks overwhelming support defining marriage as between one man & one woman.
I'm very glad Katherine Harris is holding Nelson's 'feet to the fire' on this issue!
I've heard that from a number of folks here, but I have never seen a single shred of evidence of that. And even if they did, which again I'm looking for evidence of, there's no evidence that I have seen that non-homosexual children or teens are in the slightest bit recruitable. I have repeatedly asked for any evidence of this and so far the only response has been either silence or a reference to organizations such as NAMBLA, which has no bearing on this issue at all.
Are there homosexual groups that are trying to infiltrate the schools? Sure. And as a parent I would watch for that kind of promotion and step in, either with the school or in guidance to my children. Again, no evidence that such organizations are either effective or supported by most monogamous homosexual couples.
Not so. The Defense of Marriage Act prevents states from having to recognize same sex marriages. And the federal challenges to it have all ended in failure. Even the infamous 9th Circuit has recognized that a state has a compelling interest in maintaining marriage between one man and one woman to promote procreation. There is no danger.
FoxNews reported that many black ministers lobbied Dem Senators today to support the Marriage Amendment. Blacks overwhelming support defining marriage as between one man & one woman.
As do I. But there is absolutely no danger to the definition. If a state judge overturns traditional marriage in a state, it is the business of the state to cure the issue. Obviously there is something in the state constitution that needs a correction. Massachusetts isn't at the mercy of its judges. It's at the mercy of its voters, the people. If they want to amend their constitution, they have the power. This is absolutely all about nothing.
I'm very glad Katherine Harris is holding Nelson's 'feet to the fire' on this issue!
As long as she doesn't tell the whole story, she may succeed. Remember, she is fighting a completely losing battle and is pulling out all the stops. Any one who has looked into this issue knows that marriage is not at all under any winnable attack. Those that understand this and still want the amendment, have a completely different agenda.
Dennis Prager has a column that discusses the issue of same-sex marriage & children.
Excerpt:
So, same-sex marriage advocates now argue that children do not do better with a mother and a father.
To buttress this absurdity, they repeatedly ask, "Where are the studies" that prove that children do better with a father and a mother? Not only are there no such studies, they claim, but in fact, "studies show" that that children raised with parents of the same sex do just as well as children raised by a father and a mother.
But this claim, too, is dishonest.
As Professor Don Browning of the University of Chicago recently wrote in The New York Times, "We know next to nothing" about the effects of same-sex parenting on children.
"The body of sociological knowledge about same-sex parenting," he and his co-author wrote, "is scant at best. ... There are no rigorous, large-scale studies on the effect of same-sex marriage on the couples' children.
"Steven Nock, a leading scholar of marriage at the University of Virginia, wrote in March 2001 after a thorough review that every study on this question 'contained at least one fatal flaw' and 'not a single one was conducted according to generally accepted standards of scientific research.'"
So the statement that "studies show" that children don't do better with a mother and father is as factually mendacious as it is morally repugnant. Why then are so many fooled by it? Because "studies show" has become the refuge of those who do not wish to think. I hear this lack of thought regularly from college educated callers to my radio show who refuse to think an issue through, or to make a moral judgment, without first having seen what "studies show."
But does anyone who thinks, rather than awaits "studies" to affirm their biases, really believe that a mother is useless if a child has two fathers, or that a father is unnecessary if a child has two mothers? The idea that men and women do not have entirely distinctive contributions to make to the rearing of a child is so absurd that it is frightening that many well educated -- and only the well educated -- believe it.
There are many powerful arguments against same-sex marriage, and in subsequent columns I will offer them. But if you have to offer only one, know that those who push for same-sex marriage base their case on something factually indefensible -- that children do not benefit from having a father and a mother; and on something morally indefensible -- ignoring what is best for children.
Entire column here:
http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/dennisprager/2004/05/04/11576.html
Obviously there is something in the state constitution that needs a correction. Massachusetts isn't at the mercy of its judges. It's at the mercy of its voters, the people. If they want to amend their constitution, they have the power. This is absolutely all about nothing.
Harris needs to make an issue of Nelson's votes on illegal immigration issues.
She will be doing that as well....but it is the Marriage Amendment that is currently on the table.
Give this wacko conspiracy theory a rest aleady!
FYI -Floridian FReepers...
All Floridian's -get on Nelson! Demand he support the heteronormative, homophobic, and bigoted heterosexual conspiracy underlying the FMA! Breeders Unite!
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Thanks for that mega-bump!
Please read my post # 26 about the MA Legislature thwarting the will of the people of the Commonwealth to vote on a Definition of Marriage Amendment. Also Gov. Romney's letter to all US Senators.
Now you have raised an entirely separate issue from the one at hand. Prager reflects a number of commentors reflecting that in the end, we know nothing about same sex parenting. This has absolutely nothing to do with the marriage amendment. It will not prevent same sex unions other than marriage, as the President has said. I'm still against the amendment for several reasons, some of which I have previously listed.
I don't want same sex marriage in my state, and there is no threat to that. Neither you nor I have any right to interfere in the constitutional wrangling within the state of Massachusetts. They will eventually work it out. Either the people will pass an amendment prohibiting same sex marriage or they will permit same sex marriage by not altering their constitution. It's not up to the remaining 49 states to pull their chestnuts out of the fire. That's the essence of federalism. It works if you give it a chance.
I'm not considering any of the studies either way, because it will take a number of them all meeting the stringent standards of statistical excellence.
As for the one contention I did make it a previous post, I have seen nothing indicating a propensity of same sex couples to either attempt to influence children into their sexual lifestyle nor do I believe it would succeed with a non homosexual child.
There is really only one powerful argument against same sex marriage. That is that marriage is designed for procreation. I'm not aware of any other.
The FMA will say that the Massachusetts constitution actually doesn't require something the judiciary of the state says it does. Can you not see the constitutional crisis this creates in any state such as Massachusetts? The three branches of government in the state will no longer be equal. You will argue that it is the fault of the judiciary, but it is not. The judiciary cannot stop a constitutional amendment from being enacted to cure the problem.
Taking it one step farther, the FMA would say that no state constitution can be construed to require same sex marriages. But what if the state wants to put that into their constitution, and enact laws persuant to that? What is the legal standing of a judge who follows the US Constituion and refuses to legalize the same sex marriage, but is violating the laws of his own state? The homosexual lobby is not holding the state hostage. The people can still vote and it is their representatives who are failing to move the amendment through the statehouse, not the gay lobby.
I don't want same sex marriage in my state, and there is no threat to that. Neither you nor I have any right to interfere in the constitutional wrangling within the state of Massachusetts. They will eventually work it out. Either the people will pass an amendment prohibiting same sex marriage or they will permit same sex marriage by not altering their constitution.
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Didn't think so.
I agree completely with you. In fact, except for a hard corps with a different agenda, I fear she could actually lose votes depending on how she portrays this.
It's impossible for Nelson to "demonstrate that he's not a liberal", since he is a clone of Kerry, Klinton, and Kennedy.
My point was that you cannot put traditional marriage into the Constitution, or anywhere else, because people overwhelmingly favor easy divorce and decriminalization of adultery.
Calling what's left after you allow unilateral divorce and don't punish adultery "traditional marriage" is really dishonest. There's nothing traditional about it at all.
Believe me I share their frustration. I know it was a 4 to 3 decision, but such decisions are made routinely in every state and in the USSC. As you point out though, it is now clearly within the power of the voters. They must speak loudly. I understand it is supposed to come up again this summer.
My point was that you cannot put traditional marriage into the Constitution, or anywhere else, because people overwhelmingly favor easy divorce and decriminalization of adultery.
Good move.
Are any of your friends in Massachusetts married, and if so, how have the same sex marriages affected your friends' marriages?
The only thing I ever notice about that picture are her stirrups. She's obviously not a horsewoman and looks a little foolish.
It's not a question of same-sex affecting their individual marriages.
For thousands of years human society has affirmed that marriage between one man & one woman is the natural order for procreation and the best environment for the raising of children.
They may not, but I think the propagandizing on alternate lifestyles in schools may affect that generation in ways that might well make family gatherings a heartbreak in years to come. It would be better if they told the truth about the dangers of a gay lifestyle.
"Traditional marriage has three partners,God, the male and the female." This is so naive. There have always been four. It was the church, and now it is the state that sanctions marriage.
You are right. It's going nowhere. But at least we are on the offensive. KH is right to hold that old Bolshevik's feet to the fire on an issue that people care about.
We always campaign on Democrat issues. She's not doing that. I am really rooting for her.
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