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1 posted on 06/05/2006 1:11:28 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 06/05/2006 1:12:39 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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Hmm ... this sound interesting. Thanks for the post. I will read it later.


3 posted on 06/05/2006 1:13:39 PM PDT by hawkaw
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"genetic diversity among Neandertals was higher than previously thought.."



So why are they extinct?


4 posted on 06/05/2006 1:14:41 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: PatrickHenry
the mtDNA sequences from the nine neandertal specimens that have been analyzed to date ... do not match those found among modern humans, suggesting that little, if any, interbreeding took place.

This could be explained if Neanderthal women were exceedingly unappealing, and the only interbreeding that took place was between Neanderthal men and HS women.

6 posted on 06/05/2006 1:17:34 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: PatrickHenry

No Howard Dean jokes yet?

:)


7 posted on 06/05/2006 1:19:02 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: PatrickHenry
Very interesting. Too bad its only 112 bp, but then its 100,000 years old so that's a great start.

Maybe they will be able to squeeze a bit more out of that tooth in time. The techniques are improving very quickly.

12 posted on 06/05/2006 1:23:36 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)
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To: PatrickHenry
becoming extinct shortly after the arrival of modern humans on the continent around 30,000 years ago.

Arbeit macht frei...

19 posted on 06/05/2006 1:30:35 PM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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The Neandertal specimen analyzed consists in a molar of a 10-12 year-old child.......

If the cild was dead, then there was no chance for it to pass on its DNA.........

20 posted on 06/05/2006 1:32:32 PM PDT by Red Badger (Liberals ignore criminal behavior, reward sloth and revere incompetence...........)
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To: PatrickHenry
do not match those found among modern humans, suggesting that little, if any, interbreeding took place.

Most likely because modern women didn't care much for that "knock 'em over the head & drag 'em back to the cave" sort of dating scene. ;-)

But modern guys invented the "paper bag" to facilitate interbreeding attempts between them and Neandertal women. ;-)

21 posted on 06/05/2006 1:33:42 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
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"...the researchers sought to reveal whether the Neandertal mtDNA pool exhibited long-term stability or drastic modification around the time of cohabitation with modern humans....;-)

26 posted on 06/05/2006 1:44:35 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: SunkenCiv

More on Neanderthal genetics.

You still holding to your Cor Magnon tooth story?


28 posted on 06/05/2006 1:46:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: PatrickHenry

I'm confused. How does the MtDNA from one specimen show any level of diversity, even when compared with later samples?

(This is a legit question for you geneticists. I'm a geologist myself...)


33 posted on 06/05/2006 1:57:27 PM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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"Neandertals ... becoming extinct shortly after the arrival of modern humans on the continent around 30,000 years ago."

Evidence of the first muslims arriving in Europe?


39 posted on 06/05/2006 2:15:11 PM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: blam

Neandertal ping


48 posted on 06/05/2006 5:12:52 PM PDT by shuckmaster (An oak tree is an acorns way of making more acorns)
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To: PatrickHenry; Coyoteman

last I checked, we had only a paltry number of Neandertal specimen to study - something like 100 - of which only a dozen or so are relatively complete. I'd be a LOT happier with discussions concerning the "disappearance" of this advanced hominid if we had good comarative SOMATIC DNA assays to look at.


49 posted on 06/05/2006 5:17:05 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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To: PatrickHenry
I dont think they looked very hard for recent relatives.



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53 posted on 06/05/2006 6:12:33 PM PDT by knews_hound (Driving Liberals nuts since 1975 !)
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Neanderthal Yields Nuclear DNA
BBC | 5-16-2006
Posted on 05/16/2006 6:33:16 PM EDT by blam
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Scientists Sequence Neanderthal Genome For First Time
http://www.reasons.org/press_releases/20060601.shtml
Posted on 05/31/2006 11:02:01 PM EDT by truthfinder9
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1641548/posts


57 posted on 06/05/2006 10:14:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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58 posted on 06/05/2006 10:15:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: PatrickHenry
The Neandertal specimen analyzed consists in a molar of a 10-12 year-old child

Oh, right. Like an 10-12 year old child is qualified for this.

64 posted on 06/06/2006 11:48:58 AM PDT by Gumlegs (This is a deadpan post.)
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