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One small breath for man (extracting oxygen from the lunar soil)
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 5/28/2006 | ELANOR MAYNE

Posted on 05/28/2006 1:25:09 PM PDT by Dark Skies

Scientists have paved the way for the first permanently manned base on the Moon by developing a way to 'squeeze' oxygen out of lunar soil.

Nasa experts say the technique will allow astronauts of the future to create their own supplies of the gas instead of transporting it all from Earth.

The space agency plans to take its extraction system to the Moon in 2011 as part of its Robotic Lunar Exploration Program, which will test a range of equipment designed to support human life. If the technique is successful, it could lead to a permanent station like Moon-base Alpha from the popular Seventies series Space: 1999.

To extract oxygen from lunar soil, scientists used a lens-like structure to focus sunlight on to it, heating it to 2,500C.

In Nasa's latest tests, a 12ft-wide dish was used to concentrate the sun's rays on to 100g of a substance similar to Moon soil. After a few hours, one fifth of the substance had turned into oxygen.

The soil is kept in a vacuum during the process to help suck out the oxygen.

Lunar soil brought back to Earth is in short supply and highly prized, so Nasa researchers have been using matter with the same composition for its tests.

The soil contains about 45 per cent oxygen by weight, but it is mostly 'trapped' in the form of silcon dioxide.

Nasa plans to repeat the same processs on the Moon to produce oxygen, which could support life and be used to help fuel rockets setting out on deep-space missions.

At the moment, all oxygen supplies would have to be brought from Earth, which is so expensive and energy-inefficient that it effectively rules out a permanent Moon base.

Dr Eric Cardiff, an engineer at Nasa's Goddard Space Flight Centre in Maryland, explained: 'Part of the advantage of the technique is that we're using the resources that are present on the Moon. We're living off the land, as it were.'

He added: 'You can breathe pure oxygen. There are some trace gases mixed with the oxygen we produced but they're in very small amounts. There is nothing dangerous.'

The next step for scientists will be to reduce the temperature needed to extract oxygen.

Carrying out the method on the Moon would involve a mining operation to collect soil and feed it into a reactor, where the oxygen could be drawn off.

It will be easier to lift the soil than it would be on Earth because the Moon has a lower gravity.

Alternative methods to extract oxygen from Moon soil are also under investigation, including melting the rocks into a liquid and freeing oxygen with an electric current.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: extraction; moon; oxygen
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1 posted on 05/28/2006 1:25:13 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Can we all agree that a 100% oxygen atmosphere is not optimal, or will we have to experince an appolo type burn-out to get smart? I sure hope not!


2 posted on 05/28/2006 1:29:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Hey Senators, what have you done with those Conservatives we sent to Congress? (CyberAnt Inspired))
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To: DoughtyOne

true, but this stuff is pretty darn cool.


3 posted on 05/28/2006 1:33:46 PM PDT by patton (What the heck just happened, here?)
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To: Dark Skies

Where is the MSM in the USA? We have to get this kind of news from the UK?


4 posted on 05/28/2006 1:35:32 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (look at a map)
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To: DoughtyOne

The entire moon would be a no-smoking area.


5 posted on 05/28/2006 1:36:08 PM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Lazamataz

"The entire moon would be a no-smoking area."

How hard will that be. The entire earth will be one in 5-10 years.


6 posted on 05/28/2006 1:41:00 PM PDT by rikkir (Focus, people, focus, we still have work to do in November!)
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To: patton
From NASA...
On a more conventional note, the most abundant element on the lunar surface is oxygen - 42 percent of the total. It's not breathable but is locked up in oxides of silicon (21%), iron (13%), calcium (8%), aluminum (7%), magnesium (6%), and other materials (the actual composition varies with the region). The metals are useful for buildings and even new spacecraft - the silicon can be made into solar cells and windows, and the oxygen freed from the soil can be breathed or used in rocket propellant.

Source: http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/msad28apr98_1a.htm

As I understand it, Martian soil contains similar sources of oxygen. Now, if we can just find some hydrogen...

7 posted on 05/28/2006 1:59:48 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

I thought the grays already had huge mining operations and bases on the far side of the moon .....


8 posted on 05/28/2006 2:01:04 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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9 posted on 05/28/2006 2:04:21 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Dark Skies

Interesting that this topic comes up so often. Lack of oxygen on the moon has never been the main impediment to settlement. Lack of hydrogen is a problem, as is lack of nitrogen and lack of carbon. Missing three out of four isn't such a hot record.


10 posted on 05/28/2006 2:07:50 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: KevinDavis

ping


11 posted on 05/28/2006 2:15:23 PM PDT by raygun
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To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; The_Victor; ...

12 posted on 05/28/2006 2:19:28 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: golfisnr1
This is old news. NASA put out RFPs months ago, iirc. It made the news.

But now that you bring it up, Canadian radio had a piece on it a week ago. Here's a link to the page of mp3/ogg files

http://www.cbc.ca/quirks/archives/05-06/may20.html#2

Look for "Moon oxygen"

I get the RSS feed, but I try listen Saturday mornings, short wave gods permitting.

13 posted on 05/28/2006 2:35:48 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Dark Skies

This would be better than using the hypothetical water at the lunar south pole for oxygen.


14 posted on 05/28/2006 2:39:18 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: DoughtyOne

That would be a disater that would far surpass the Apollo fire, I imagine if such a thing would happen we would abandon it in place and not return for another 50 years at least.

I'm sure NASA is willing to import nitrogen from Earth to keep from the 100% oxygen mix.


15 posted on 05/28/2006 2:42:55 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances – and it advances relentlessly – freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: DoughtyOne

The pressure of the oxygen is part of the equation. The Apollo atmosphere was designed to be kept at 1/5 earth sea level pressure. I'm pretty sure the fire happened while the oxygen was at full sea level pressure.


16 posted on 05/28/2006 2:48:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The pressure of the oxygen is part of the equation.

From a biological perspective, an atmosphere that's 80% nitrogen and 20% oxygen at 1ATM is probably about equivalent to one that's 100% oxygen at 0.2ATM. From a fire-safety perspective, though, I'd expect the latter to be worse. In addition to displacing oxygen, nitrogen absorbs heat. Remove the nitrogen, even if it's not replaced with oxygen, and fires will be able to spread more rapidly.

Still, given the weight difference between hydrogen and oxygen, it might possibly be useful to transport an excess of hydrogen to the Moon for the purposes of both generating water, and also for the purpose of extracting oxygen from the lunar soil. If a pound of hydrogen plus eight pounds of oxygen can together extract more than nine pounds of oxygen from the soil, that would make possible a net weight savings even if the nine pounds of water thus produced weren't used (if they were used, it would be an even clearer win).

17 posted on 05/28/2006 3:55:55 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: Dark Skies

Good old H20!


18 posted on 05/28/2006 4:06:47 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (My ding-dong wasn't big enough, so I cut it off.)
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To: DoughtyOne
I've always thought it odd that we can't live without oxygen,
yet it gradually kills us by oxidating our cells.
19 posted on 05/28/2006 4:30:57 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Brett66

They can use helium and argon instead of nitrogen if they just want to dilute the atmosphere. The purpose of adding nitrogen to the mix is for purposes of agriculture.


20 posted on 05/28/2006 4:34:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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