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Man who bragged of murdering Iraqis debunked by Army
Stars and Stripes ^ | May 28, 2006 | Jeff Schogol

Posted on 05/27/2006 11:44:38 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Debunking the claims of a minor Internet celebrity, the Army said it has no record of a man who claimed he committed atrocities with Army Rangers in Iraq.

In an interview posted on the Web site SocialistAlternative.org, Jesse MacBeth claimed that his job was to “strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people” while serving with the 3rd Ranger Battalion.

“We would go into people’s houses and plow down entire families,” MacBeth said. “We would interrogate people. If we didn’t like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn’t like, then we’d move on to the rest of the family. They could’ve been innocent people.”

MacBeth also claimed U.S. troops would “slaughter” Iraqis in mosques.

But U.S. Army Special Operations Command at Fort Bragg found no evidence of a soldier named Jesse MacBeth ever serving with Army Rangers or Special Forces, said Army spokesman Paul Boyce.

Boyce also noted several red flags about MacBeth’s appearance.

“There are also numerous wear and appearance issues with the soldier’s uniform — a mix of foreign uniforms with the sleeves rolled up like a Marine and a badly floppy tan beret worn like a pastry chef,” Boyce said.

In one picture of MacBeth posted online, he is wearing his beret with the insignia centered over the wrong eye.

In a telephone interview Thursday, MacBeth said he purposely wore his uniform backward in a video interview in which he made his allegations because veterans are prohibited from wearing their uniforms at protests.

Asked why the Army found no record of him, MacBeth said, “They did the same thing to John Kerry.”

But the group Iraq Veterans Against the War, to which MacBeth belonged, said it too was skeptical of MacBeth.

In a statement on its Web site, the group said MacBeth’s claims of service “have not been verified” and the group is conducting an investigation of the matter.

Group member Garett Reppenhagen called MacBeth a “troubled kid.”

“I’m not sure why he would want to be fraudulent to IVAW,” Reppenhagen said in a telephone interview Thursday.

Reppenhagen said the group would take steps in the future to verify its members’ service, but he could not say what those measures might be.

Vietnam veteran Doug Sterner is an advocate for a proposed law that would make it a felony to make false claims of decorations earned. MacBeth claimed he had earned a Bronze Star.

Sterner said he believes MacBeth is more interested in “self-gratification” than getting a political message across.

“If he was honestly a war protester, he would do it honestly, so his opposition to the war is as transparent as his military service is bogus,” Sterner said.

But MacBeth insisted he served in Iraq with the Rangers and claimed Iraq Veterans Against the War had betrayed him.

“When the heat gets on them they stab me in the back,” he said.

Still, MacBeth said he would not defend his credibility any further.

“I’m not going to follow this battle no more. The right wing won,” he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: army; dumbass; fakeranger; hoax; iraq; jesseisahomo; jessemacbeth; military
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1 posted on 05/27/2006 11:44:42 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

See:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1639332/posts


2 posted on 05/27/2006 11:46:28 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: West Coast Conservative

I don't think that this poser was even in the Army.


3 posted on 05/27/2006 11:46:41 AM PDT by Quark606
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To: West Coast Conservative

Just another LIAR!!!


4 posted on 05/27/2006 11:48:28 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: americanstrategist

He was in the Army, but did not finish boot camp.


5 posted on 05/27/2006 11:48:35 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: West Coast Conservative
Asked why the Army found no record of him, MacBeth said, “They did the same thing to John Kerry.”

I KNEW Kerry never served in Vietnam!!

6 posted on 05/27/2006 11:49:04 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: West Coast Conservative

I hate scum like this punk. It besmiches us vets who served in the previous wars for freedom and liberty. Damn him.

"If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a Soldier."


7 posted on 05/27/2006 11:49:17 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
“We would go into people’s houses and plow down entire families,” MacBeth said. “We would interrogate people. If we didn’t like the answers that they gave, then we would kill the youngest child. If they gave more answers that we didn’t like, then we’d move on to the rest of the family.

What bugged me about the Jesse Macbeth incident is that it took a photograph of him wearing his beret and uniform wrong for people to point out what a phony he is. The above quoted statement alone should have been more than enough evidence to scream to the world: "I'm a fraud!!!"

8 posted on 05/27/2006 11:49:52 AM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Sterner said he believes MacBeth is more interested in “self-gratification” than getting a political message across."

MacBeth, IVAW members, and the like are nothing but one big circle "self-gratification".

9 posted on 05/27/2006 11:51:04 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: West Coast Conservative
“I’m not sure why he would want to be fraudulent to IVAW,” Reppenhagen said in a telephone interview Thursday.

Maybe because he wanted to discredit the war effort? Now the question why would the IVAW group, supposedly made up of Iraq wa veterans, allow such a obvious poser and liar into their group? Could it be that there are more of these traitors in this rank.

10 posted on 05/27/2006 11:51:13 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Play me a dirge matey)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

For the Army it's Basic Training


11 posted on 05/27/2006 11:53:22 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: sharkhawk

Probably to get back at the Army for kicking him out, and they may have given him some money.

Revenge is a strong motivating force.


12 posted on 05/27/2006 11:54:20 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: SandRat

OK


13 posted on 05/27/2006 11:55:26 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: West Coast Conservative
But MacBeth insisted he served in Iraq with the Rangers and claimed Iraq Veterans Against the War had betrayed him. “When the heat gets on them they stab me in the back,” he said.

Poetic justice for someone bearing the name of MacBeth?

14 posted on 05/27/2006 11:56:29 AM PDT by Humbug
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To: lowbridge
What bugged me about the Jesse Macbeth incident is that it took a photograph of him wearing his beret and uniform wrong for people to point out what a phony he is. The above quoted statement alone should have been more than enough evidence to scream to the world: "I'm a fraud!!!"

The problem with liberals is that they so desperately want to believe what suits them or serves their sick and warped agenda. Look at our former Rapist-in-Chief. Liberals refused to believe his accusers because they so desperately wanted to believe him.

15 posted on 05/27/2006 11:56:35 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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To: lowbridge
If he doesn't know how to wear a beret, it means he didn't make it through the 1st 9 months (Army recruits get their first beret, normally, after completing the Basic part of BCT).
16 posted on 05/27/2006 11:57:13 AM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: West Coast Conservative
In an interview posted on the Web site SocialistAlternative.org, Jesse MacBeth claimed that his job was to “strike fear in the hearts of the Iraqi people” while serving with the 3rd Ranger Battalion. “We would go into people’s houses and plow down entire families,” MacBeth said.

In a display of lightning-swift military justice, the Internet identity of the poster was tracked down and he was court-martialed, convicted of war crimes and executed by firing squad all within 24 hours.

His last words were, "It was all a joke!!!! I was never IN the Army!!!!!!"

17 posted on 05/27/2006 11:57:59 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: West Coast Conservative
Boyce also noted several red flags about MacBeth’s appearance.

“There are also numerous wear and appearance issues with the soldier’s uniform — a mix of foreign uniforms with the sleeves rolled up like a Marine and a badly floppy tan beret worn like a pastry chef,” Boyce said.

L0L! Im doing my bast franch lawf here ...Huhhw Huhhw Huhhw Houhhw

18 posted on 05/27/2006 12:04:27 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Did you see his cleaned up 214? It's at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1639332/posts


19 posted on 05/27/2006 12:11:10 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat

I saw it thanks.


20 posted on 05/27/2006 12:12:55 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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