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Is the New York Times About to be Indicted?
Armavirumque ^ | May 25, 2006 | James Piereson

Posted on 05/25/2006 1:09:42 AM PDT by RWR8189

Is The New York Times about to be indicted? That would be a fair inference from the strange exchanges that have gone back and forth over the past few days between the Justice Department and the editors of the paper.

On Sunday, during the ABC news program, "This Week," Attorney General Gonzales was asked if the federal government might prosecute journalists who published classified information.

"There are some statutes on the books," he answered, "which . . . would seem to indicate that this is a possibility." He went on to suggest that such prosecutions were implicitly authorized by the Congress when it passed the statutes. "We have an obligation to enforce those laws," he said. "We have an obligation to ensure that our national security is protected."

The Times, in reporting on this interview on Monday in an article by Adam Liptak, quoted the Attorney General at length, but suggested that the espionage laws in question had been written to apply to government officials who leaked classified information and not to journalists and newspapers that might have published it. In this context, Liptak referred to a pending prosecution of two representatives of the American Israel Political Action Committee who were charged under the Espionage Act of 1917 with conspiracy to transmit classified material to members of the media and to a foreign diplomat. It is true that the Espionage Act has never been invoked as a basis for prosecuting reporters. One might argue, as many have, that there is a national interest in promoting debate about defense and security policy and that such debate would be impeded by the prosecution of journalists. At the same time, the two AIPAC officials are not government employees but rather (alleged) recipients of classified material. The Times next weighed in with an editorial on Wednesday in which the editors picked up this particular theme. The editorial stressed that Mr. Gonzales was mostly blowing hot air because the Espionage Act could not be applied to journalists. Revealing some sensitivity on this issue, however, the Times went even further in its editorial to suggest that the Bush administration was in no position to invoke congressional statutes since, in the view of the editors, it had routinely violated them in authorizing wiretaps without warrants and in failing to enforce civil rights and environmental laws. If the Bush administration can ignore the laws, the editors seemed to ask, why can't we? The editorial reads much like a pre-emptive strike designed by lawyers to ward off impending indictment. In that case, however, the editors may have gone too far in implying that they have as much right as the government to determine what the laws are and which ones deserve to be obeyed.

The issue here is whether or not the Times, along with two of its writers, James Risen and Eric Lichtblau, violated federal laws when it published an article last December revealing that President Bush had authorized the National Security Agency to monitor communications inside the United States without first obtaining warrants. The authors, along with the Times editorialists, assert that President Bush violated the Foreign Intelligence Security Act (FISA) of 1978 by authorizing wiretaps inside the country without warrants. The President, for his part, has defended his actions on the grounds that the communications in question originated abroad and were thus international rather than domestic in character. He has insisted that these steps were required to defend national security against planned terrorist attacks; and he has further pointed out that relevant committees in Congress were notified of the policy. Still further, he requested the paper to withhold publication of the information on national security ground -- a plea that the editors turned aside. Thus, the editors cannot claim that they published the article without prior knowledge of the importance of the information contained therein. Afterwards, the President called the publication of the article a "shameful" act that compromised national security.

Risen subsequently published a book based on his reporting under the title, State of War: The Secret History of the CIA and the Bush Administration (Free Press). Risen won a Pulitzer Prize this year for his reporting on this issue; and perhaps it might be said that the Pulitzer committee, in confirming this award, was itself providing some pre-emptive protection for the paper against possible prosecution. At a pre-trial hearing for the AIPAC defendants, their lawyer pointed out that "James Risen won a Pulitzer Prize for doing what my clients have been indicted for."

The best reporting on this particular issue has been done by Gabriel Schoenfeld who first raised the possibility of prosecution in his article, "Has the New York Times Violated the Espionage Act?" in the March issue of Commentary magazine. After reviewing the various precedents, he acknowledges that it would be difficult, though not impossible, to prosecute the Times under the Espionage Act.

However, Schoenfeld points to a second statute, approved by Congress in 1950, that is more relevant to the question at hand -- Section 798 of the US Criminal Code dealing with the "Disclosure of Classified Information." This statute made it a federal crime for any unauthorized person to publish classified information "concerning the communication intelligence of the United States or any foreign government." The statute was carefully crafted, as Schoenfeld points out, to focus on the vitally important area of communications intelligence (or "comint" as it is called in the trade), which was defined as "all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients." The Congress understood that intelligence on the activities of foreign adversaries would dry up if they are tipped off as to what information we have and by what means we gathered it. Thus, the disclosure or publication of classified communications intelligence was singled out by Congress as a violation of the law.

It seems plain, as Schoenfeld concludes, that the Times (and not only the Times) has violated this section of the Criminal Code in the paper's disclosure of the government's communications intercepts. In a follow-up article in Monday's Los Angeles Times, Schoenfeld reports further on this possibility and urges the Justice Department to investigate these possible violations with greater seriousness. He reports that the FBI has not yet interviewed anyone from The New York Times in connection with the leaks that led to its story on the NSA's communications intercepts. On the other hand, the Attorney General's comments on Sunday suggest that the issue is now being taken very seriously indeed, and at the highest levels.

The editors of the Times do not mention the possibility of a prosecution under the 1950 statute dealing with "comint" as they understandably preferred to focus on their presumptive safe haven under the Espionage Act. There is little doubt, too, that Attorney General Gonzales had this statute in mind when he referred on Sunday to "certain statutes on the books" which would make it possible to prosecute reporters and newspapers.

Yet one wonders if the Bush Administration would really dare to take the unprecedented step of prosecuting an institution like The New York Times. It certainly seems doubtful. A chorus of protest about its "chilling effects" on free speech would erupt following any such indictment. On the other hand, this administration has dared to do some things that conventional opinion said could never be done. We know further that, following the terrorist attacks in 2001, the administration has regarded national security to be its principal obligation to the American people.

In view of their editorial on Wednesday, the editors of the Times must believe that a prosecution is a real possibility. One obvious reason for concern is that the indictment of corporations often turns out to be a death sentence, as it was with Arthur Andersen & Co., which was forced to fold even though the indictment under which it was prosecuted was later thrown out on appeal. Time will tell. In the meantime, the unfolding story will be fascinating to watch.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aipac; comint; espionage; indictment; jamesrisen; leak; newyorkslimes; newyorktimes; nyt; nytimes; oldgreyhag; risen; section798; treason

1 posted on 05/25/2006 1:09:46 AM PDT by RWR8189
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To: All

Not a website I'm familiar with, but it was linked on RealClearPolitics, and they're a pretty good site.


2 posted on 05/25/2006 1:11:40 AM PDT by RWR8189 (George Allen for President)
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To: RWR8189
Reporters have the right to say whatever for the most part.

The issue here is whether the press can use free speech to spread illegal leaks and assist in what could be considered espionage against the United States?

Common sense would seem to say no.

Let's say the press in WW2 heard a disgruntled lefty leak, and decided to tell Japan through the newspapers that we found one of those typewriters and that we could now read all their correspondence.
Is the press free to sabotage the defense of our country and remove an advantage we would have had longer over an enemy they don't know about? Common sense says no.
3 posted on 05/25/2006 1:24:06 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: RWR8189

I hope so.


4 posted on 05/25/2006 1:31:19 AM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: RWR8189
>"suggested that the espionage laws in question had been written to apply to government officials who leaked classified information and not to journalists and newspapers that might have published it."

That reminds me of what the former Gov of Louisiana (Presently Incarcerated) said about bribery.

"It was illegal for them to bribe me. It wasn't illegal for me to accept the money though."- Edwin Edwards

Hey Pinchy.... don't drop the soap!!!!

5 posted on 05/25/2006 1:33:31 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
"It was illegal for them to bribe me. It wasn't illegal for me to accept the money though."- Edwin Edwards

LOL - I gues he figured it was worth a shot.

6 posted on 05/25/2006 1:35:52 AM PDT by Allegra (Finbar for Texas Governor!)
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To: A CA Guy
One might argue, as many have, that there is a national interest in promoting debate about defense and security policy and that such debate would be impeded by the prosecution of journalists.
OTOH one might argue, as I do, that journalists are not priests nor any sort of officials at all. Journalists are merely people like you and me, with no credentials which the government is obligated to respect. People who exercise rights that you and I have but ordinarily do not exercise. Say rather, which we ordinarily exercise only humbly via FR, rather than arrogantly.

Journalists call themselves "the press" as if non-fiction or even fictional books were less protected than the particular genre of topical nonfiction known as journalism. And as if the First Amendment covered broadcast journalists whose business could not exist without government censorship of radio transmission which competed with the licensed broadcasters. It is arrogant to argue from a claim of your own virtue, and journalists arrogantly claim the virtue of objectivity.

Journalists claim the status of a priesthood of power - the power of public relations. They maintain that power by maintaining their circulation and their ratings, and they maintain their circulation and ratings by "If it bleeds it leads" negativity and by second-guessing criticism of those who provide the goods and services upon which we depend.

In short, journalism preens itself as the definition of the public interest by promoting the idea that anyone who is not a journalist or a credulous believer of the perspective of journalism is evil. Journalism is in fact nothing but the prototypical special interest. An interest which promotes liberalism tyranny as it promotes itself.

7 posted on 05/25/2006 2:37:07 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Alberto and the adminisration won't touch the press, no matter how egregious the transgression. They're too skeered of what people might say and write about them. The New Tone, you know.


8 posted on 05/25/2006 3:01:02 AM PDT by CalvaryJohn (What is keeping that damned asteroid?)
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To: RWR8189
I didn't know you could indict a newspaper. I'd rather some of their employees be indicted.
9 posted on 05/25/2006 3:15:01 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: RWR8189
Woohoo..would that ever make my day.

The slimes are a disgrace.

10 posted on 05/25/2006 3:25:49 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Wild open borders are so pre-9/11.)
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To: RWR8189

Sometimes I think Joe McCarthy was right. He was just right too soon.


11 posted on 05/25/2006 3:30:23 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: RWR8189

I am certainly not a fan of the New York Times, and I don't think newspapers should be publishing classified information that might effect national security. That having been said however, it is ironic Gonzales seems to be considering prosecution in this case to "protect our security" while the administration has declined to enforce the law against the hiring of illegal aliens and ignored the security risks inherent in our porous borders and ports every since 9/11. An administration that selectively enforces the law only when it is convenient and that only worries about some security risks while ignoring other obvious ones loses credibility even with its base.


12 posted on 05/25/2006 3:30:43 AM PDT by LaLaLand Conservative
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To: RWR8189
"Is The New York Times about to be indicted?"

Mouth is watering like a Pavlovian dog.

13 posted on 05/25/2006 3:35:00 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: CalvaryJohn

You could be right. However, I would bet, if they do bring charges (and I hope they do), they will have them buttoned down tight. And if they do, won't that be a day!


14 posted on 05/25/2006 3:38:53 AM PDT by norge
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To: CalvaryJohn

Yeah, we've heard that criticism before. I personally think that things are about to change.


15 posted on 05/25/2006 3:44:25 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: RWR8189

A possible death sentence for the NY Times? What a pleasant thought to start the day.


16 posted on 05/25/2006 3:49:54 AM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Enhance Capitol security: Censure Cynthia!)
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To: RWR8189

In my view, the important paragraph deals with the communications intellegance law. This is the first I had heard of this law obviously passed to protect Enigma type secrets.

That is precisely what the Times did. They divulged an enigma type secret communications program.

It would seem the Times defense is to declare innocence of the espionage act and cover up the comint law from public knowledge.

The Times is the enemy. Pinch is the emeny and must be prosecuted.


17 posted on 05/25/2006 4:03:47 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: RWR8189
He reports that the FBI has not yet interviewed anyone from The New York Times in connection with the leaks that led to its story on the NSA's communications intercepts.

It doesn't necessarily follow that they won't be investigated. After her attorney's initial bluster, we haven't heard much from Mary McCarthy lately.

As far as the (false) sanctity of the press, I'd say Fitzgerald has lowered the bar in throwing Judy Miller in jail for a few months. Perhaps reporters won't be prosecuted, but their lives may be, shall we say, severely inconvenienced.

18 posted on 05/25/2006 4:21:12 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: RWR8189
Pinch is going to be pinched?

Goody.

19 posted on 05/25/2006 4:23:09 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: LaLaLand Conservative

Exactly!!


20 posted on 05/25/2006 4:32:06 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A. and the Troops who protect her.)
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To: LaLaLand Conservative
I want border security as much as anyone, and I will NEVER support amnesty. Having said that, do you have any idea of how tiring and stale these constant attacks about the border are to those of us that support the House bill?

Hi Jacking every thread with drive-by immigration attacks serves no purpose but to anger and divide a website far too angry, and far too divided already.

Tag lines are great for mini rants BTW.

LLS
21 posted on 05/25/2006 4:32:53 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Hardastarboard

Tailgunner Joe was right.


22 posted on 05/25/2006 4:34:53 AM PDT by MattinNJ (Strahan, Osi, Arrington...someone go over to Bledsoe's house and pry him out of the fetal position.)
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To: A CA Guy
The Times, in reporting on this interview on Monday in an article by Adam Liptak, quoted the Attorney General at length, but suggested that the espionage laws in question had been written to apply to government officials who leaked classified information and not to journalists and newspapers that might have published it.

I agree with you - the Press' interpretation would indicate that if I rob a bank, it is OK to prosecute me, but if a reporter takes the money, knowing that it is stolen, and fences it, the reporter should be granted amnesty.

23 posted on 05/25/2006 5:06:10 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: LibLieSlayer

Amen! There are actually other issues out there besides illegal immigration although it's hard to imagine that lately.


24 posted on 05/25/2006 5:52:14 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: RWR8189
We have an obligation to enforce those laws," he said. "We have an obligation to ensure that our national security is protected."

He should pass that attitude over to the immigration section!

25 posted on 05/25/2006 5:56:30 AM PDT by thoughtomator (A thread without a comment on immigration is not complete)
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To: RWR8189

I predict the NYT will be indicted in the next 24 (business) hours, ha ha ha


26 posted on 05/25/2006 6:00:26 AM PDT by Gothmog
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To: RWR8189
"Times, Times is such a fleeting, insubstantial thing"

(William Shakespeare, 1602)

27 posted on 05/25/2006 6:18:07 AM PDT by MinuteGal (FReeps Ahoy 4 cruisers are home! Check the cruise thread for photos. Hit red "4" on Home Page)
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To: browardchad

Let's not forget this one either.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1635851/posts
Judith Miller: I Was Tipped Off About 9/11


28 posted on 05/25/2006 6:53:42 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: rawcatslyentist
"It was illegal for them to bribe me. It wasn't illegal for me to accept the money though."- Edwin Edwards

Unfortunately, this was literally true with respect to Louisiana law. The Louisiana legislature had taken care never to pass a law incriminating their acceptance of bribes.

It still may be true today.

29 posted on 05/25/2006 7:35:45 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Allegra
So that's where Congressman Jefferson got his idea!

I guess Congressman Jefferson was Just taking Orders, aka Clyde Vidrine.

30 posted on 05/25/2006 7:40:34 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: RWR8189
Yet one wonders if the Bush Administration would really dare to take the unprecedented step of prosecuting an institution like The New York Times.

You bet your sweet a$$ he would, and about time too, you traitorous scumbags!

31 posted on 05/25/2006 9:16:03 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: RWR8189

Hot Air, huh? Let's hope that Gonzalez nails the sorry NYT, to the wall...


32 posted on 05/25/2006 10:31:11 AM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: rawcatslyentist

Is this Edwin Edwards related in any way to the Breck Girl, John Edwards????? (lol)


33 posted on 05/25/2006 12:44:51 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: RWR8189
National Security information should be treated like child porn.

Unauthorized possession, distribution, publication, duplication, transfer, reproduction, acceptance, giving, selling or divulging should be unlawful.

The Times needs to be hammered. They would have published the Manhattan design plans in WW-II if they had this bunch of editors. They are putting the American people in danger through their irresponsible quest for ratings, profit, personal agendas and awards.

This must stop now before they commit even greater damage to the nation and people.

These people are just as dangerous as AQ.

34 posted on 05/25/2006 2:34:42 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: RWR8189; Peach; Enchante; Sam Hill; Howlin

Ping

Pinz


35 posted on 05/25/2006 3:13:58 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez (Charter Snowflake, Rummy fan)
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To: pinz-n-needlez

Bump for later read. We're getting a thunderstorm here.


36 posted on 05/25/2006 3:17:46 PM PDT by Peach (DICC's - doing the work for the DNC)
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To: RWR8189

Call me when the headlines are "Is Pinch Sulzberger About to Be Sentence to Life in Prison?" and I'll be a lot more interested....... :^)


37 posted on 05/25/2006 4:07:06 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: RWR8189; Perdogg

Interesting...


38 posted on 05/25/2006 4:10:51 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: RWR8189

They should be indicted for calling that left wing birdcage liner a newspaper.


39 posted on 05/25/2006 4:12:40 PM PDT by wireman
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To: LibLieSlayer

Thanks for that response....I certainly agree with you...


40 posted on 05/25/2006 4:15:26 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin

Starting with the NYSlimes is an excellent place to start...an eastern elitist rag who hates everything American.


41 posted on 05/25/2006 4:19:34 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc. 10:2)
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To: shield

Yeah, I think so too. Only, I wonder what's going on because Gonzalez said something similar a couple months back. So, okay Gonzalez, time to stop talking about it and slap 'em with an indictment...


42 posted on 05/25/2006 6:18:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: usurper
National Security information should be treated like child porn.

No kidding, instead of "should be's" we should have laws.

43 posted on 05/25/2006 6:45:22 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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