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Montenegro vote opens separatist Pandora's box
AFP ^ | 23 May 2006 | Calin Neacsu

Posted on 05/23/2006 11:25:00 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Montenegro's independence could open a Pandora's box for other separatist movements in Europe and the former Soviet Union, with some already claiming the right to follow the same path.

Separatists in Spain's Basque and Catalan regions were among the first to welcome Montenegro's independence vote as a positive omen for their aspirations of loosening ties with Madrid.

But Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos stressed the situations in his country and Montenegro were "politically, diplomatically, juridically" incomparable and that making such a comparison would represent a "great irresponsibility".

His view was supported by European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana, who said any such comparisons would be "delirious".

A total of 55,5% of Montenegrin voters who took part in Sunday's referendum opted for independence from the tiny Balkan state's federation with Serbia.

Podgorica's union with Belgrade was the last vestige of the former Yugoslav federation, consisting of six republics that broke apart in a series of wars in the 1990s.

However, after Montenegro the EU has to immediately tackle the issue of the United Nations-administered Serbian province of Kosovo, where ethnic Albanians are the majority. Kosovo Albanians hope to gain independence this year, a demand Belgrade fiercely opposes.

Tim Judah, a Balkans specialist at the Centre for European Reform based in London, said regional stability depended far more on Kosovo -- "the final act in this 15-year drama" -- than on Montenegro.

"Compared to Kosovo, Montenegro is easy," he said, stressing that "Kosovo is a much, much bigger problem".

"Although some refuse to establish a link, possible independence of Kosovo, which would be internationally recognised, would legitimise the ambitions of other separatists who never had their own state," a Western diplomat based in the Croatian capital Zagreb told Agence France-Presse, wishing to remain anonymous.

Bosnian Serbs have already said Montenegro's independence was a good model to be followed by their entity of Republika Srpska, which, along with the Muslim-Croat Federation, has made up post-war Bosnia.

For those fighting for the independence of the Germanic Tyrol region of Italy, and its annexation to Austria, the outcome of Montenegro's referendum inspired dreams to organise a similar vote.

A senior Russian lawmaker estimated that Montenegro's decision to separate from Serbia would spur debate on the status of Kosovo and could set a "heavy" precedent for other countries with separatist minorities.

Konstantin Kosachev, chairperson of the Russian Parliament's foreign-affairs committee, warned of setting a precedent over Kosovo.

"This will create a precedent heavy with consequences for other regions," he said, citing in particular Turkish northern Cyprus and Spain's Basque separatists.

But even in the former Soviet Union, several regions are hoping to follow the lead of Montenegro. They were unilaterally proclaimed during the bloody conflicts that followed its 1991 collapse and supported by Moscow, but not recognised by the international community.

Among them, the breakaway republics of Transdniestr in Moldova and Abkhazia in Georgia, were the first to say the vote serves as a model of "self-determination".

"One can only welcome such a civilised method for gaining self-determination," said the "president" of Abkhazia, Sergei Bagapch, quoted by Interfax.

The "foreign minister" of Transdniestr, Valeri Litskai, said the outcome of Sunday's referendum in the tiny Balkan republic was a day for celebration.

"The chief diplomats of all the unrecognised republics of the former Soviet Union were satisfied" with the referendum result, he said after a meeting with representatives of regional minorities in Moscow. -- AFP


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1 posted on 05/23/2006 11:25:03 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
So its OK for Kosovo but not for Spain?

I would ask them why not. This is not the end of this subject by any means. Look for it to get worse in the years to come.
2 posted on 05/23/2006 11:28:06 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It is amazing how statists everywhere are quickest in denunciations of other people's wishes to be free from artificial constructs of government that have failed. All in the name of 'stability'...

oh well, on to their next point: "well, Montenegro WAS an independent nation for 4 centuries before 1920, so, well, its OK for THEM, but not OK for (fill-in-the-blank)..

3 posted on 05/23/2006 11:30:17 AM PDT by Al Simmons (Hillary Clinton is Stalin in a Dress)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
And here I thought the huge effort by the UN, the US, NATO, etc years ago to rip apart Yugoslavia opened the separatist Pandora's box.

But it appears the AFP missed that.

4 posted on 05/23/2006 11:31:51 AM PDT by JR.Roofing
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Joe, Montenegro doesn't have much in common with some of the rump territory mentioned in your excellently posted article ... which makes me doubt the author's bona fides.

Montenegro is an ancient kingdom with its own history and its own branch of the Orthodox Church. For example, its royal family is related by blood and marriage to most of the other royal families of Europe. Montenegro also fought on the side of the allies in WWI.

5 posted on 05/23/2006 11:32:44 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (How odd of God to put so much crude under the arses of those so rude.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Let's not forget Wales, Scotland, Catalonia, Malta, Corsica, & etc.


6 posted on 05/23/2006 11:38:51 AM PDT by PeterFinn (Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for.)
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To: PeterFinn

Malta is an independent country. It has been for over 30 years.


7 posted on 05/23/2006 11:45:51 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: PeteB570
So its OK for Kosovo but not for Spain?

First, the Catalan & Basque separatists were referring to Montenegro, not Kosovo.

Second, the Kosovars are saying almost the same thing: "Why is it OK for Montengego to vote to secede, but not us?" Both Kosovo and Montengro were incorporated into the entity most recently known as Serbia & Montenegro by force of arms ratified by Great Power fiat at the end of WWI. Both fought revolts for years that were brutally suppressed. However, Kosovo voted for independence in 1991 and then suffered through the Serb pogroms against the Albanians culminating in the ethnic cleansing campaigns of 1998-99. From their viewpoint, even more so than Montenegro, they deserve independence yesterday.

8 posted on 05/23/2006 11:51:02 AM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

Finally the Archduke Franz Ferdinand gets his payback!


9 posted on 05/23/2006 11:56:52 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (being dragged, kicking and screaming, into the Kingdom of Heaven....)
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To: Kenny Bunk; FormerLib
No, Montenegro DOES not have a canonical ORTHODOX CHURCH of its own... The Entire ORTHODOX CHURCH WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THIS AND THEY HAVE NOT EVER... NOT FOR THEM OR MACEDONIA ( OR AS THE GREEKS CALL THEM FYROM).

Even the USA does not have a fully independent Orthodox Church. Nor does Canada.

This is their own Church affairs and has little or nothing to do with man-made geographical boundries. Best NOT to push the issue since neither YOU nor I, nor the politicans can change one iota of the facts.

10 posted on 05/23/2006 12:37:59 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: GAB-1955

Archduke was set up by his own secret police.....plus he was a dirty rotten dog anyway!


11 posted on 05/23/2006 12:39:03 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: mark502inf

LIES!! Kosovo was NEVER separate form Serbia and you know it!! How's your Albanian ISLAMICS MOBSTER pals doing today????


12 posted on 05/23/2006 12:40:18 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: DTA; joan; montyspython; tgambill
PING!!!!

Mark-igit is on board with his USUAL LIES!!

13 posted on 05/23/2006 12:42:00 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: Kenny Bunk
[Montenegro has] its own branch of the Orthodox Church

Uh-oh, Kenny, I think you're going to get in trouble for saying that!

14 posted on 05/23/2006 12:46:34 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I predict that the time will come in the USA when the debates of the 1850's will re-emerge - as our own Balkanization continues. After all, just this week Vicente Fox is visiting his new "estado:" Alta California.
15 posted on 05/23/2006 12:48:37 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Free Saamiland!

That should piss the libruls off :)


16 posted on 05/23/2006 12:49:12 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: mark502inf
True, but I was referring to the part about the EU dealing with Kosovo next.

The whole "Vote for Independence" is such a crock. The same countries that back it in one part of the world denounce it in an other.

China and Taiwan, that's a good one. With the last election Bolivia could be next with a split off of the lowlands. The Basques? Thorn in the side of Spain for years.

No easy solution to any of them. Just messy.
17 posted on 05/23/2006 12:50:14 PM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: mark502inf

Post-monitus pessimus.


18 posted on 05/23/2006 12:52:12 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (How odd of God to put so much crude under the arses of those so rude.)
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To: Lion in Winter
LIES!! Kosovo was NEVER separate form Serbia

Uh, except for the five centuries from the 1400s until Serbia invaded and conquered it in 1912 as part of the First Balkan War. I'm sure there's a library near you. Ask someone where it is. They usually have nice ladies there who will help you look it up.

19 posted on 05/23/2006 12:52:36 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Kenny Bunk

Wrong


20 posted on 05/23/2006 12:53:33 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: Lion in Winter
Kosovo was NEVER separate form Serbia

Actually, it looks like Kosovo was only part of an independent Serbia for a very short time--the year or two between the Balkan Wars (when Serbia conquered it from the Ottomans) and the start of World War I (when Serbia was overrun by the Habsburgs). Then it, along with Montenegro, Macedonia, and big chunks of Austria-Hungary were merged into Yugoslavia following the war.
21 posted on 05/23/2006 12:56:40 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: montyspython

Elucidate


22 posted on 05/23/2006 12:58:31 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (How odd of God to put so much crude under the arses of those so rude.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Poor mark is a islamic sympathizer who REFUSES to condemn the destruction of ANY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES by his pals the ALbanian clans who run the KLA islamic gun runners, white slavers, drug smugglers in Kosovo.

I will now ping you to a very recent article about the Albanian mobsters activities in the destruction of Churches in Kosovo 2 years ago.

24 posted on 05/23/2006 1:12:40 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: FormerLib
Here is the article with info about the Albanian gangsters and what they ADMITTED to doing to Christians and their Churches in Kosovo!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1634130/posts?page=1

25 posted on 05/23/2006 1:16:25 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: Malesherbes

Absolutely correct, sir!!


26 posted on 05/23/2006 1:17:06 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: HostileTerritory; Tailgunner Joe; FormerLib; DTA
KOSOVO is a Serbian word.... the Monasteries there date back HUNDREDS and HUNDREDS of years!! The Turks took over in about 1385 and Serbia had been a thriving CHRISTIAN LAND for hundreds of years before that!! THE SEAT OF THE SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH IS IN KOSOVO.. LIKE ROME IS THE SEAT OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

You know it amazes me that so many Americans think it AOK for an ALbanian islamic MOB to crush Christians under their heel ( just like they did in Kosovo during WWII at the behest of Hitler) and destroy their Churches... and yet those SAME Americans whine on ad infinitum about how they distrust wild islamics who attack AMERICA and our way of life.

I see some HYPOCRACY in that, don't you??

Ok to Kill Serbs you ISLAMICS ... but do NOT dare kill one of us Americans!!!

WHAT HAPPENS TO CHRISTIANS IN KOSOVO IS A FATE AMERICAN AND OTHER WESTERN COUNTRIES WILL FACE SOONER IF NOT LATER... unless WE STOP THE MAD DASH TO APPEASE THOSE ISLAMICS MONSTER MOBS IN KOSOVO!!

27 posted on 05/23/2006 1:29:16 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: Lion in Winter

Given that Native Americans owned Manhattan island much more recently than Serbs have owned Kosovo, true hypocrisy would be for us to squat on our conquered lands while insisting on respecting 600-year-old lapsed tenancies in the old world against the rights of the people who live there now.


28 posted on 05/23/2006 1:41:47 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory; FormerLib; montyspython
NO.... you are incorrect.... KOSOVO IS BLESSED BY GOD ALMIGHTY, SERBIAN LAND... and KOSOVO will always be so!!

Maybe some mongrel islamics will take it for awhile like the Turks did... BUT GOD KNOWS WHO PRAYS TO HIM IN KOSOVO AND IT IS NOT AN ALBANIAN MOSLEM GANGSTERS!

Do me a favor, keep your ideas to yourself. You simply do not know enough about KOSOVO to even venture an opinion!

Or you side with islamics mongrel Albanians.....

29 posted on 05/23/2006 1:47:57 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: kosta50

PING


30 posted on 05/23/2006 1:48:56 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: mark502inf; Lion in Winter; FormerLib
[Kosovo was NEVER separate form Serbia] Uh, except for the five centuries from the 1400s until Serbia invaded and conquered it in 1912 as part of the First Balkan War

The liberary would have told you that the Serbs were driven out of Kosovo at the end of the 17th century (1690) and that Patriarch Arseniye III (Charnoyevich) lead them to Voyvodina. The Serbs sided with Austrians in one of the three Austro-Turkish wars and were abandoned by the Austrians when the war fortune turned against them.

The Turks then decimated (literaly) Serbs across the area and caused them to leave en masse. The care taking of the Serbian Orthodoxy was taken over by the Montenegrin princes.

The Serbs were driven from their homeland. The Albaninas filled the vacuum. By your "logic" the Jews must not have the right to their state of Israel (historical reasons) either, if you believe that the Serbs "invaded" Kosovo after WWI (which was actually in 1913, after the First Balkan War -- I guess you didn't go to the library after all, did you?). If you think the Jews invaded Palestine without any cause than I would say the Serbs invaded Kosovo without any cause in 1913.

When the Serbs moved into that area in the 7th century, they didn't expel anyone or fight with anyone that I know of. It is therefore their homeland. Just as in the case of Israel, do you think that Arab numbers alone will determine if Israel has the right to exist or not? And one day there will be more Arabas in Israel then Jews.

What will the international community say then? Clearly, you and the rest of the international community are practicing double standards.

You favor integration in Bosnia at all cost, forcing people who don't want to live together to live together so that the Bosnian Muslims can have their country; yet when it comes to Kosovo, you favor disintegration. The only common denominator in both cases is the anti-Serb bias.

So, what else is new?

31 posted on 05/23/2006 2:13:23 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

BRAVO!! BRAVO!!!


32 posted on 05/23/2006 2:17:55 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: Kenny Bunk

"Montenegro is an ancient kingdom with its own history and its own branch of the Orthodox Church."

Uh, actually, the historic Orthodox Church of Montengro is the Orthodox Church of Serbia. The independent Orthodox Church of Montenegro was, I believe, a pretty recent creation of Djukanovic's, if I'm not mistaken. Also, Montenegro was originally part of Serbia. When the Ottoman TUrks conquered Serbia, much of Montenegro became independent. Even today, most experts would probably consider Montenegrins to be Serbs of a sort.


33 posted on 05/23/2006 2:21:14 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (L. Ron Hubbard was a fake, a liar, a crook, and a piece of crap.)
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To: mark502inf

"Second, the Kosovars are saying almost the same thing: "Why is it OK for Montengego to vote to secede, but not us?""

I have heard that the old Yugoslav Constitution has stated that while constituent Republics, which Montenegro was, had the right to secede, autonomous regions and provinces, such as Kosovo, didn't.


34 posted on 05/23/2006 2:22:55 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (L. Ron Hubbard was a fake, a liar, a crook, and a piece of crap.)
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Politicians DO NOT make ALL the Patriarchs of the EOCC do anything ever, they would rather die on this earth first.... only GOD leads them.... as I was told recently by a EOCC priest after a wedding.

So, if that little Montenegrin gangster wants to tangle further with the EOCC, he will LOSE in more ways than one.

I would NOT want to be him.

35 posted on 05/23/2006 2:28:18 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: Jacob Kell
Poor mark is so ga-ga- over the islamic albanians and bosnians that he forgets little things like CONSTITUTIONS and such THINGS AS LAWS.

But what the heck...mussies all think that way!!

36 posted on 05/23/2006 2:33:01 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: Jacob Kell; Lion in Winter
The independent Orthodox Church of Montenegro was, I believe, a pretty recent creation...

I am corrected. Thank you.

37 posted on 05/23/2006 2:40:43 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (How odd of God to put so much crude under the arses of those so rude.)
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To: PeterFinn

And Taiwan and Chechnya...let's bring the "good" Chinese and Russian governments into this.


38 posted on 05/23/2006 4:32:00 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Kenny Bunk
>>>>>>>Montenegro is an ancient kingdom with its own history and its own branch of the Orthodox Church. <<<<<<<<

This statement needs DE-BUNKING.

Montenegro was not "ancient Kingdom". It became kingdom in 19th century. Montenegrin "Orthodox Church" is not recognized by any Orthodox sister Church in the world. It is bogus private organisation masquerading as Orthodox church. run by former Communists.

Most of the Montenegrins are Orthodox Christians belonging to Serbian Orthodox Church. The most famous Montenegrin, Orthodox Vladika Petar Petrovich Njegos who ruled Montenegro in 19 century was proud for being a Serb.

This is inconvenient fact for former Commies who run independent Montenegro today.

History of the Balkans is fascinating one, there is no need of making things up.

39 posted on 05/23/2006 4:47:29 PM PDT by DTA
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To: mark502inf

Kosovo is as Serbian as Aztlan is American.

Lemme guess, you want to run away on that question as well? Figures!


40 posted on 05/23/2006 4:58:28 PM PDT by FormerLib ("...the past ten years in Kosovo will be replayed here in what some call Aztlan.")
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To: Lion in Winter
Poor mark is a islamic sympathizer who REFUSES to condemn the destruction of ANY CHRISTIAN CHURCHES by his pals the ALbanian clans

I condemn the Kosovar Albanian destruction of Serb churches in Kosovo as well as the Serb attacks on Albanian mosques, tekkes, and Albanian Catholic Churches. I also condemn the Serb destruction of the hundreds of Christian churches & monasteries they dynamited, shelled, looted, and otherwise desecrated in Croatia and the Croat-inhabited areas of Bosnia.

So Lion, do you condemn the Serb attacks on Croatian and Albanian Christian Churches?

41 posted on 05/23/2006 7:08:27 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: Lion in Winter
SERBIAN LAND... and KOSOVO will always be so!!You simply do not know enough about KOSOVO

LOL

Or you side with islamics mongrel Albanians..

ALL CAPS makes up for neither your ignorance or your racism.

42 posted on 05/23/2006 7:14:43 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: kosta50
Kosta, you are correct in that the major population shift occurred in Kosovo in the 1600-1700s after failed revolts against the Ottomans; as exemplified by the Serb Great Migaration at the end of the 17th Century. Partly as a result of that population movement, generation after generation of Albanians has lived in Kosovo for the last several hundred years and--as the Library of Congress Country study says--Albanians "have constituted the vast majority of Kosovo's population since at least the eighteenth century."

In any case, for obvious reasons, arguments for sovereignty based on who lived somewhere hundreds of years ago are not valid. The problem Serbs have with Kosovo is the illegitimacy of an oppressive government. As Senator Jesse Helms said in his speech to the United Nations:

But nations derive their sovereignty – their legitimacy – from the consent of the governed. Thus, it follows, that nations can lose their legitimacy when they rule without the consent of the governed; they deservedly discard their sovereignty by brutally oppressing their people. Slobodan Milosevic cannot claim sovereignty over Kosovo when he has murdered Kosovars and piled their bodies into mass graves.

And therein lies the crux of the argument for Kosovo independence, not Albanian demographics or ancient Serb claims.

43 posted on 05/23/2006 7:41:48 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf
["I also condemn the Serb destruction of the hundreds of Christian churches & monasteries they dynamited, shelled, looted, and otherwise desecrated in Croatia and the Croat-inhabited areas of Bosnia."]

Dear Mark: "'Civil' War is Hell." (General Sherman). However, you seemingly support Ustasha Croatians.
44 posted on 05/23/2006 7:52:31 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: mark502inf; FormerLib
Race... albanians are not a race.

TaLk about ignorant... MARK IT IS you WHO IS IGNORANT... albanians a RACE.... hahaha!!!

45 posted on 05/23/2006 7:52:36 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: mark502inf

YOU are a mussie sympathizer!! Proved time and timne again...NOW, go away!


46 posted on 05/23/2006 7:54:32 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: kosta50

He IS a mussie apologist!! WHAT do you expect from him?? Sense???


47 posted on 05/23/2006 7:55:49 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Of course he supports ANYBODY AND ANYTHING WHICH HARMS SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS.

What do you expect from a mussie or utaschi apologist!!

48 posted on 05/23/2006 7:58:12 PM PDT by Lion in Winter (islamics are not religious, just set on on mass murder of non-muslims!!)
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To: FormerLib
FormerLib, the Aztlan-Kosovo comparison holds no water. The argument for independence of Kosovo is the same one we used in our Revolution. It is based on the illegitimate nature of an oppressive government and the inherent right of people to fight for their freedom against such a government.

When the US government dismisses all the Hispanic local officials in the Southwest and replaces them with Anglos from outside the area, fires Hispanic workers from their jobs, beats & jails those who protest, burns the villages & schools & religious buildings of the locals, and then sends in the army assisted by drunken bands of paramilitaries to wholesale cleanse the Hispanic population from out of their homes, no matter their citizenship or how long they've lived there--shooting enough to "encourage" cooperation--then and only then can you make a comparison between Aztlan and Kosovo.

As US Ambassador to the United Nations, John Bolton said:

"... the violent disintegration of Yugoslavia, the ethnic cleansing and humanitarian crisis of 1999, ... make Kosovo a very, very special case."

49 posted on 05/23/2006 8:06:45 PM PDT by mark502inf
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
However, you seemingly support Ustasha Croatians.

Classic Balkans logic. I condemn the destruction of Catholic Churches by the Serbs in the 1990s and you translate that into me supporting WWII Croatian Nazis.

50 posted on 05/23/2006 8:11:53 PM PDT by mark502inf
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