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George W. Bush on Immigration (A Man that Delivers on what he Says)
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Posted on 05/19/2006 2:53:23 PM PDT by catholicfreeper

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To: Wormwood

3. Senator from Mass.


101 posted on 05/20/2006 4:59:26 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: catholicfreeper
I am sick of hearing that the only law these people have broken is to come here "illegally". How blind can you be? You neglect to add that because they came here "Illegally", they have false documentations and SS numbers, and on and on... Read about how are OWN laws are broken and NOT enforced to accommodate the Illegals who have no respect for our laws..

GOVERNOR COULD ENFORCE LAWS: SHOW HE IS SERIOUS ABOUT STOPPING ILLEGAL ALIENS Posted May 9 2006

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Last week Governor Schwarzenegger complained that the Federal government was not doing its job in keeping our border secure.  He noted how porous the borders are, drug dealers, terrorists and illegal aliens get into our nation with only minor difficulties.  Arnold is right, the purpose of the Federal government is to protect the borders, not create amnesty programs when you fail to do the job.

But, local, county and state government agencies can also take a hand in this issue.  Just as an open border is a magnet to those wanting to leave their home country, but not follow the laws of the United States, the policies of local, county and state government act as magnets due to the benefits and lax enforcement of law already on the books.

Therefore, since Governor Schwarzenegger is concerned about the Federal government not enforcing federal laws, how about the Guv appoint a Cabinet officer or other state government official to make sure state laws are enforced?  Let me list just some of the laws that could be enforced.  If they were enforced, the Federal government would not have to deport anyone--the illegal aliens would leave of their own accord.

LAWS THAT THE GOVERNOR COULD ENFORCE, TO SHOW HE IS SERIOUS ABOUT CONTROLLING ILLEGAL ACTIVITY IN CALIFORNIA

1.  ENFORCE THE TAX LAWS.....Most employers of illegal aliens do not pay income tax.  Have the Franchise Tax Board audit firms, like construction and landscaping firms, are using illegal aliens and not paying state income tax.  Bring criminal action against the finance people, human resources and top management for not paying income taxes for illegal alien employees.

2.  ENFORCE THE WORKERS COMPENSATION LAWS......like taxes, most employers of illegal aliens do not pay into a workers comp fund.  This is illegal in California.  Have the appropriate state agency audit firms, such as major hotels and large restaurants.  Bring criminal action against the mangers of each facility, the finance people and benefits department for failure to pay.  Publish the names of each arrested and how much other workers are paying to cover the costs not paid by these firms.

3.  ENFORCE THE WORKER SAFETY RULES....the recent raid on IFCO, the pallet maker in Riverside, showed that the working conditions were massively unsafe.  Cal-OSHA should be investigating the safety of the workers.  I would expect that unions would also be promoting safety in the workplace.  I would expect that Hispanic organizations would not want the illegal aliens to work in severely unsafe conditions.  I am positive the Governor does not want any human beings working in unsafe conditions.  So, the Guv should be using state agencies to investigate unsafe work places.

4.  ENFORCE THE LAWS AGAINST DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE.....Recently Senator Cedillo tried to change this law, so that police could not impound cars driven by folks without a license.  That got stopped.  His reason was that police were impounding cars belonging to illegal aliens, and they were losing cars, a major asset.  Instead, the Highway Patrol could put up roadblocks checking for two items--drivers licenses and insurance coverage.  Under California law, you must have both.  Impound the cars.  No cars can leave the impound until proof of insurance and a valid drivers license is produced.  Illegal aliens will not be able to do either in California.

5.  CROSS CHECK THE STATE TAX PAYERS WITH THE SOCIAL SECURITY ADMINISTRATION...Social Security has a database, per the stories about IFCO, of employees with phony social security numbers.  This will give agencies businesses to check to enforce number 1 and 2.

6.  ENFORCE THE RULES IN THE STATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GRANTS..rules of the state say that acceptance of the money means the accepting agency will not violate the laws.  Laws are very clear that affordable housing funds go to citizens and those eligible to be residents of the United States.  The City of Los Angeles specifically disallows asking if the receivers of affordable housing are eligible due to citizenship.  Many of the recipients in LA are illegal aliens.

7.  ENFORCE STATE BUILDING AND SAFETY RULES... by not allowing housing funds to cities or counties that do not enforce local rules on the number of unrelated resident in a single housing unit.  This will stop the over crowding and force cities to get involved as well--they want the money, now let them enforce the rules and laws.

8.  ENFORCE THE STATE BANKING LAWS...Wells Fargo and several other banks are pursuing illegal aliens as customers for loans.  The more loans illegal aliens take on homes or cars, the less money available for honest citizens--which means the interest rates goes up for the good folks.  State and Federal law says you can not harbor or assist those violating the law.  Banking codes say you can not give loans to those using the funds to violate the law.  Enforce these laws.  Quickly the housing market by illegal aliens would dry up.  And, the cost of housing will drop by a small amount, with less people chasing the homes.

I know the Governor is sincere when he says he wants to uphold the law and he takes his oath of office seriously.  The Governor has said on several occasions over the past few weeks that the illegal alien program is  in need of attention.  We all know that the minimum cost of illegal aliens to Californians is $9 billion--which is approximately the structural deficit of the state.  He does not have to ask the legislature for one new law in order to enforce the current laws.  By doing so, it will send a message to corporate California that the hiring of illegal aliens is a serious offense, that criminal action will be taken against executives that use this hiring to exploit people.  A few newspaper stories about the pillars of our community arrested for exploiting illegal aliens, and maybe it will stop.

For months I have suggested governor Schwarzenegger needs a Republican agenda to get GOP'ers to vote for him.  The above agenda would go a long way to getting the vote, solving our fiscal crisis and show young people that it is not OK to break the law.

IF YOU KNOW OF OTHER STATE LAWS, NOT FEDERAL, THAT THE GOVERNOR IS NOT ENFORCING, BUT SHOULD, PLEASE WRITE IT DIRECTLY ON THE BLOG.  ALSO, PLEASE SEND THIS TO YOUR FRIENDS AROUND THE STATE AND NATION.  LET'S START A MOVEMENT TO HAVE LOCAL OFFICIALS ENFORCE THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS.  NO LONGER CAN THEY SAY THIS IS A FEDERAL PROBLEM, NOT THEIR'S.

In a few days I will write another story, this time on how local governments could enforce their laws to cause illegal aliens to leave the area on their own.

www.capoliticalnews.com

102 posted on 05/20/2006 6:22:32 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife) (Build the fence NOW)
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To: catholicfreeper

SOrry for my snide comment. I just found it hard to believe that your fawning support for GWB no matter how the country is being devastated by the destruction of sovereignty that he is aiding and abetting was purely voluntary.

I was a big supporter of him, voted for him. But his position on this issue has more than meets the eye. Most people across the board do not want millions upon millions of illegals flooding the country. Why does he?


103 posted on 05/20/2006 7:14:46 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: catholicfreeper
Keeping America competitive requires an immigration system that upholds our laws

Our nation needs orderly and secure borders

stronger immigration enforcement

closes the border to drug dealers and terrorists

We're increasing the border security of the US

I don't think we ought to reward illegal behavior

We need is to crack down on illegal hiring.

so long as there's not an American willing to do that job

I don't think we ought to reward illegal behavior.

It's against the law in the US to hire people illegally, and we ought to be enforcing that law properly

We must do a better job of stopping those who seek to come into our country illegally

I heard him when he talked of work permits, and things of that type, but I also heard him talk of securing the border and enforcing immigration laws. If he had done what he said and secured the border and enforced immigration laws, he would have much more support today for a guest worker plan.

104 posted on 05/20/2006 7:50:04 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and secure the border!!!)
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To: catholicfreeper
I don't think a path to citizenship really matters to illegals. Folks from other countries (not including Mexico) want to come to America for a better life for them and their families.
The problem is the majority of illegals (Mexicans) are already here doing just that. They broke the law and will be allowed to stay. Even if they pay a fine, etc etc they have accomplished breaking our laws only to be told that they can stay (and do the jobs potential legal immigrants long for).
If that ain't rewarding illegal behavior, I don't know what is.
105 posted on 05/20/2006 8:31:46 AM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: catholicfreeper

If "Guest Worker" is in the Republican platform, then to Hell with the Republican platform!

If Bush campaigned on it, then to Hell with Bush!

"Guest Worker" "Temporary Worker" is just a scheme for them to bring in even more job taking, wage depressing, slave labor, than they're able to bring in now.


106 posted on 05/20/2006 9:56:41 AM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: SealSeven; catholicfreeper
I suspect the vast majority will try to become citizens.
One of the nicer things about the culture of Mexico is family loyalty.
Once they become citizens, they will sponsor in their parents and family members to get them on SS, SDI and welfare. It will bankrupt this nation. That is why the Democrats are risking the wrath of the working class voters who will suffer the most. There will be nothing left for defense or civic security, we will be begging for a Big Brother.
107 posted on 05/20/2006 10:22:11 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: Luke21
Like David Souter?

And without massive outrage, the ignoble Ms. Miers...

108 posted on 05/20/2006 4:59:08 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: freedumb2003

Your insults aren't worth the time of responding to.


109 posted on 05/20/2006 6:45:26 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: ed c finley

Well, since China has 1.3 billion people I think it is safe to say that we have a ways to go, don't you? Also, with the birth rates having declined we are not growing our population fast enough to keep up with economic growth.


110 posted on 05/20/2006 7:00:46 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Lurker

Ask the guy who sits on the corner drinking a 40 in the early afternoon what jobs he isn't willing to do and that should answer your question.


111 posted on 05/20/2006 7:01:59 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Copperhead

It's because they can hear the outrage and they can see the danger up ahead with the mid-term elections.

Bush is pro business so he will do what he can to support them in their efforts to source affordable labor. Secondly, he is a fairly compassionate man and I don't see him as being willing to round up people in the middle of the night and throw them out. To him that is simply wrong.


112 posted on 05/20/2006 7:05:43 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: SealSeven
I would differ. The strongest force in the Culture of Mexico is one's family. By becoming citizens, they will be able to sponsor parents and get them on SSI, SDI, Medicare, Section 8 Housing, food stamps, free medical etc, the whole raft of goodies.
I would be surprised and frankly disappointed if they didn't do that.
113 posted on 05/20/2006 7:06:12 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: tobyhill

"It's a bully tactic. Everyone knew where he stood before getting elected and then reelected but now some think that they can bully him to go against his original positions."

It sure is a bully tactic. And it's a damn shame we don't have Harriet Meiers in the Supreme Court. Good thing the idiot Bush-haters didn't win on campaign finance too, that's when they were too cowered in fear of Bush.

What are the voters thinking, that they can let their representatives and senators have a piece of their minds, and that somehow Bush will respond? Boy have the Border Bots have something coming - what country did they think they lived in anyway?



114 posted on 05/20/2006 7:09:31 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: misterrob
Your insults aren't worth the time of responding to.

IOW you can't reply because I trumped you on every point.

But thanks for playing. We'll be sending you along with our home game: 2 illegals that were looking for work in the Home Depot parking lot -- you get to feed them, clothe them, pay for their health care, school their children and this time YOU pay for it.

115 posted on 05/20/2006 7:18:38 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Governor of California, another job Americans won't do.)
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To: freedumb2003

No, I gave up debating people who use insult as a means of supporting their agenda. I can certainly counter your points but I have better ways to spend my time.

Have a good one.


116 posted on 05/20/2006 7:28:26 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: misterrob
I can certainly counter your points but I have better ways to spend my time.

Yeah, OK, whatever gets you through the night.

117 posted on 05/20/2006 7:35:39 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Governor of California, another job Americans won't do.)
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To: FastCoyote

If you don't like a politician's positions on issues don't vote for him. I was not talking about anything other than immigration that you mention and that is an issue that President Bush has stated his thoughts on from day one.


118 posted on 05/21/2006 12:05:56 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: catholicfreeper
Anyone who engages in hyperbole in order to intentional confuse or mislead others on his true position so they will support him with their money and their vote is not an honest person.

You may say all politicians do that and you could well be right but it does not change the fact that they are dishonest.

I voted for him both times even though I knew he did not keep his word in his first campaign to move our embassy to Jerusalem.

An honest man would not say he is in an all out war on terror,send troops to fight and die in it and then send aid money of any kind to support a government that is using terrorists to kill innocent civilians less than a thousand miles from where our soldiers are engage in combat against it.

In the posts above he said he would not support amnesty or reward illegal lawbreakers. This proposal will do both.

He does not get to define the word amnesty.

He also took an oath to support and enforce the laws of our country not to ignore them till he could get them changed to suit his and his friends agenda.

Where it does not violate our Constitution he should be trying to do the will of the majority of the people not ignoring them to do his own.

I am not saying all of the above makes him worse or even as bad as what Kerry or any other politician might would have done, just that these are not the things that an honest person would say or do.

119 posted on 05/21/2006 1:43:10 AM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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To: investigateworld

I do stand to be corrected. My apologies :>


120 posted on 05/21/2006 12:19:37 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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