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U.N. Says U.S. Should Close Gitmo Prison
AP via Yahoo ^ | 5/19/06 | SAM CAGE

Posted on 05/19/2006 5:16:53 AM PDT by T. P. Pole

U.N. Says U.S. Should Close Gitmo Prison

By SAM CAGE, Associated Press Writer

GENEVA - The United States should close its prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and avoid using secret detention facilities in the war on terror, the U.N. panel that monitors compliance with the world's anti-torture treaty said Friday.

The Committee Against Torture also said detainees should not be returned to any country where they could face a "real risk" of being tortured.

The criticism, contained in an 11-page report, followed a hearing in Geneva this month on U.S. adherence to the 1984 U.N. Convention Against Torture. The criticism carries no penalties beyond international scrutiny, but human rights observers say it could influence U.S. public opinion and hence the government.

The committee said it was worried that detainees were being held for protracted periods with insufficient legal safeguards and without judicial assessment of the justification for their detention.

"The state party should cease to detain any person at Guantanamo Bay and close the detention facility," the panel of 10 independent experts said.

The committee also expressed concern about allegations that the United States has established secret prisons, where the international Red Cross does not have access to the detainees.

The Pentagon on Monday handed over the first list of everyone who has been held at Guantanamo Bay, and none of the most notorious terrorist suspects were named, raising questions about their whereabouts.

The list also did not specify what has happened to former Guantanamo Bay detainees, heightening concern some could be in secret U.S. detention centers or in torture cells of prisons in other countries.

The United States "should ensure that no one is detained in any secret detention facility under its de facto effective control," the report said. "The state party should investigate and disclose the existence of any such facilities and the authority under which they have been established and the manner in which detainees are treated."

The panel said the United States must halt all forms of torture committed by its personnel in Afghanistan and Iraq and investigate allegations thoroughly, prosecuting any staff found guilty.

"The state party should take immediate measures to eradicate all forms of torture and ill-treatment of detainees by its military or civilian personnel, in any territory under its jurisdiction," the report said.

It said the United States also "should rescind any interrogation technique - including methods involving sexual humiliation, 'water boarding,' 'short shackling' and using dogs to induce fear - that constitute torture or cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment, in all places of detention under its de facto effective control."

Water boarding is a controversial technique in which a subject is made to think he is drowning. Short shackling involves shackling a detainee to a hook in the floor to limit movement.

The panel was also concerned that the United States was sending suspects, without judicial review, to states where they may be tortured, a process known as "extraordinary rendition."

The United States should "cease the rendition of suspects, in particular by its intelligence agencies, to States where they face a real risk of torture," the report said. "The state party should always ensure that suspects have the possibility to challenge decisions."

The United States made in its first appearance before the U.N. Committee Against Torture in six years earlier this month, addressing a series of issues ranging from Washington's interpretation of the absolute ban on torture to its interrogation methods in prisons such as Abu Ghraib, Iraq, and Guantanamo.

It said some techniques "have resulted in the death of some detainees during interrogation" and criticized vague U.S. guidelines that "have led to serious abuse of detainees."

U.S. officials in Geneva declined to comment immediately Friday.

But U.S. State Department legal adviser John B. Bellinger III, who led the U.S. delegation at the U.N. panel hearing earlier this month, told the experts that all American officials are "prohibited from engaging in torture at all times and in all places," also where the law of armed conflict applies.

Bellinger said that most of the "regrettable incidents or allegations" of detainee mistreatment had occurred several years ago and that laws, training and monitoring have since been improved.

There have been about 800 investigations into allegations of mistreatment in Afghanistan and Iraq, the U.S. delegation said. The Department of Defense found misconduct and took action against more than 250 service personnel; there have been 103 courts martial and 89 service members were convicted, of whom 19 received sentences of one year or more.

The panel asked the United States to report back within a year with its response to several of its concerns and recommendations.

These include the panel's concerns about secret prisons, extraordinary rendition and the use of interrogation techniques that have resulted in deaths.

"We hope that the United States takes to heart these criticisms and recommendations and begins a significant shift in its policies, including at a minimum immediate access to the prisoners that are in secret detention facilities," Jennifer Daskal of Human Rights Watch told The Associated Press.

The committee "has clearly rejected the United States position that it can shield its civilian CIA operations from the scrutiny of the committee," Daskal added.

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Associated Press reporters Alexander G. Higgins and Bradley S. Klapper contributed to this report.


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I know that this story has been posted from other sources already, but this section just got me steamed.

The Pentagon on Monday handed over the first list of everyone who has been held at Guantanamo Bay, and none of the most notorious terrorist suspects were named, raising questions about their whereabouts.

The list also did not specify what has happened to former Guantanamo Bay detainees, heightening concern some could be in secret U.S. detention centers or in torture cells of prisons in other countries.

So, we need to close Gitmo because we tourture folks there. But when we release a list of folks they say they are worried because some of there are not there any more and might be somewhere where they are being tourtured?

1 posted on 05/19/2006 5:16:55 AM PDT by T. P. Pole
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"U.N. Says U.S. Should Close Gitmo Prison"

And we should take advice from this group before or after hell freezes over? Just reading this makes my blood boil. It's not legitimate advice, it's more spit and spin from our enemies, more contrived ammo for the Dana Priest - Mary McCarthy attack on the Bush Administration to keep the "secret prison" story alive.

3 posted on 05/19/2006 5:31:01 AM PDT by YaYa123
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US says "Close the UN" ... ok I'm a dreamer LOL.


4 posted on 05/19/2006 5:35:21 AM PDT by sono ("Why can't we deport them? Mexico did." J Leno)
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We need to close the U.N.headquarters in Manhattan along with the high end townhomes the diplomats are residing in. Move the U.N. to Libia and be done with it.
5 posted on 05/19/2006 5:36:02 AM PDT by shadeaud (Liberals suffer from acute interior cornial craniorectoitis)
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No, we should open a special UN Wing there -- and dump some of the corrupt UN scoundrels there, starting with Koffi and his son.


6 posted on 05/19/2006 5:36:18 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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I'm glad you got it posted again. I didn't see it. The UN should not be concerned about these combatants. We are at war against terrorists and they could have joined us---but too many countries are enjoying dealing(financially) with those countries that sponser and harbor terrorists. They want the revenue and contracts countries that the US,UK and our other allies have walked away from. Within the UN there is such a large block of anti-freedom, anti-capitalist countries that want to change us. Thus they seize any issue to make waves.

We need to get the UN out of our safety and lives, out of the USA,and the US out of the UN.
7 posted on 05/19/2006 5:38:07 AM PDT by verbal voter
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"Move the U.N. to Libia and be done with it."

It would be more fitting if it was moved to Gitmo.


8 posted on 05/19/2006 5:44:22 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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Of course the UN gives a Blind eye to this....

Iran eyes badges for Jews

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1634857/posts

9 posted on 05/19/2006 5:49:02 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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but human rights observers say it could influence U.S. public opinion and hence the government.

Nope, the report will be forgotten before it is even released. Note to UN, don't release reports during sweeps.
10 posted on 05/19/2006 5:49:41 AM PDT by P-40 (Support Apartheid in Mexico! Hire an illegal today!)
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Pretty funny. Who gives a rats a$$ what the UN thinks!


11 posted on 05/19/2006 5:51:28 AM PDT by SMM48
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irrelevance


12 posted on 05/19/2006 5:53:17 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF...8th TFW...Ubon Thailand...408thMMS..."69"...Night Line Delivery...AMMO!!)
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Turn the UN into Gitmo.







13 posted on 05/19/2006 6:05:16 AM PDT by etcetera (a)
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14 posted on 05/19/2006 6:06:02 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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Kofi is afaid he may end up there for crimes against civilization.


15 posted on 05/19/2006 6:07:13 AM PDT by colonialhk (sooprize sooprize sooprize)
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The US should adopt a position that the UN is a counterproductive organization largely run by dictatorships, banana republics and terrorist states. Since it is not a serious organization we should withdraw immediately and form a new organization consisting only of democratically governed nations.


16 posted on 05/19/2006 6:12:07 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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The United States should close its prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, and avoid using secret detention facilities in the war on terror, the U.N. panel that monitors compliance with the world's anti-torture treaty said Friday.

Uh, yeah, sure - we'll get right on that...Right after we finish those TPS reports.

17 posted on 05/19/2006 6:19:02 AM PDT by opus86
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But think of all the high priced Manhattan callgirls who would lose most of their work if those diplomats weren't around. It would be a Palestinian style humanitarian crisis!!!


18 posted on 05/19/2006 6:21:31 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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Is the UN relevant anymore?


19 posted on 05/19/2006 6:25:05 AM PDT by freekitty
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"Yeah the U N is disappointed that they aren't in charge to rape, starve and steal from them."

NO! The UN does not want to administer Guantanamo. There are no 8 to 15 year-old boys and girls in Guantanamo to molest.

I just wish that the US response would change the headline by just a few words "U.S. Says U.N. Should Close Turtle Bay Headquarters".


20 posted on 05/19/2006 6:25:33 AM PDT by RBroadfoot
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