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Posted on 05/13/2006 12:56:02 PM PDT by forty_years
President Bush plans to address the nation on Monday night at 8 PM to con the American public into buying into his ludicrous immigration policies. His approval ratings are at an all-time low, with only 31% of Americans approving of his job performance, while "68% believe the United States is worse off today than it was before Mr. Bush became president." Bush's immigration policies would open the floodgates to illegals, and Americans do not approve -- and it looks like the Senate agrees. Another poll shows support for the House's tough and very sensible immigration legislation, HR 4437:
...69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.
In an attempt to assuage American concerns about the unfettered illegal immigration tidal wave, Bush has proposed using the National Guard to patrol our borders:
President Bush, trying to build momentum for an overhaul of the nation's immigration laws, is considering plans to shore up the Mexican border with National Guard troops paid for by the federal government, according to senior administration officials.One defense official said military leaders believe the number of troops required could range from 3,500 to 10,000, depending on the final plan.
That's a great idea, except that Bush wants to provide amnesty to the millions of illegals already present in the U.S., and he wants to allow 400,000 "guest workers" to enter the U.S. every year. This is a recipe for disaster.
There are at least 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S., and 10,000 pouring into our nation every day. One study predicts there will be 5 million more Latin American immigrants in the U.S. by 2015, while another prognosticates that illegals will push the American population to 1/2 billion people by 2050. Since the U.S. government is failing dismally at stemming this unfettered tidal wave, a group of concerned citizens, the Minuteman, has tried to prevent illegal immigration, but it appears that Bush has betrayed them.
And it looks like the Republican-controlled Senate is on the verge of betraying the American people by planning to push through legislation which will implement Bush's disastrous proposals. If the Republicans are looking to retain the Senate in the 2006 elections, they may just be shooting themselves in their collective feet.
The problem with Bush and many Republicans is that they are looking at immigration solely in 2 modalities: 1) trying to court the Latino vote, and 2) looking at immigration solely in near-term economic terms.
President Bush and Mexico's President Fox are colluding in an unholy alliance. Bush wants cheap Mexican labor -- forget the problems illegals pose to American society. Fox, an arrogant racist, wants to dump his economic problems on the U.S. instead of enacting much-needed reforms in his own corrupt society. It looks like Senate Republicans have joined the alliance.
It is time for the U.S. to criminalize illegal immigration as a felony offense. We need to build a wall along the Mexico border and provide enough personnel to patrol that border. We need to make it very painful for employers who hire illegals.
Are we to sit by idly while illegal immigrants openly march through our streets, trying to intimidate our policy makers, defame our flag, and rewrite our national anthem? Complacency will lead to the end of our prosperity and democracy.
Perhaps most importantly, it is time for the Third World to start dealing with its own problems (like corruption and overpopulation), and stop trying to dump those problems on the U.S.
Take action: Support LEGAL immigration.
http://netwmd.com/blog/2006/05/13/596
Round them up and send them home!
Fine the employeers $5,000 per illegal they get caught hiring.
Seal the border.
...69 percent said it was a good or very good idea when told it tries to make illegals go home by fortifying the border, forcing employer verification, and encouraging greater cooperation with local law enforcement while not increasing legal immigration; 27 percent said it was a bad or very bad idea.
The CIS poll, taken by Zogby International, is the ONLY poll that shows support for deportation without increasing legal immigration. It is a flawed poll, sponsored by an organization that is opposed to ALL immigration.
CIS got the result it wanted.
As far as a Texan, Bush is no Sam Houston.
Even the House is now opposed to this.
You got it! Ending this problem is as easy as removing the incentive for hiring!
Do you have any statistical basis for your assertion?
Lets hear what the Presidant has to say Monday before shooting off with con job and all that crud.
This article had everything in but calling the President El.. or Jor...
Let us be clear of mind, the rhetoric is blinding and not constructive.
Sounds good to me, and if Mr. Bush tries to b.s. us with some amnesty pablum b.s. the republican party is in trouble.
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CIS is the "research" arm of FAIR, a virulenty anti-immigration organization.
I don't buy it either. No Sale!!
C'mon, Zogby defines political correctness. There's nothing "virulent" about FAIR -- they are acting responsibly to prevent the devastation of the U.S. Nuff said. Done.
Concur. The kneejerk Bush hatred is really getting old..
We also need to open outdoor prison camps to hold these illegals until such time that they can be removed back to their country of origin.
Even the House is now opposed to this.
If an illegal is working now, chances are the he/she has committed a felony by using false ID or making false statements on withholding forms.
The GOP was never in favor of making it a felony, the dems added it in and it was a sticking point -- and, it turns out, was (and is) a sharp stick they wanted to stick in the GOP's eye.
We know this will force ILLEGALS to go home. They need to start making their own countries solve their problems and quit trying to make the US the nanny of the world. We can't take care of everyone and we have no repsonibility to do so either.
Actually, the GOP put the original felony language in HR 4437, then tried to take it out, but the Dems voted with some Republicans to keep it in to use as a club on the GOP.
(Denny Crane: "Every one should carry a gun strapped to their waist. We need more - not less guns.")
I said that there is no poll, other than the CIS poll, that shows a majority of Americans favor deportation with no increase in legal immigration.
10,000 breaking into this Nation DAILY!!!!!
Americans..."remember the Alamo!"
Mexicans......remember Bush...hehehe!"
As far as I'm concerned.. Bush is not even HAVING the immigration debate.
Well we had damned well find some pool of "minority" voters to draw from. A hell of a lot more Hispanics vote GOP than Blacks or Jews or even Asians. No matter how many Hispanics say they are against illegal amnesty they will sure look at mass round-ups and deportations of their fellow Hispanics with a bit of trepidation especially given the kind of rhetoric coming from a lot of the border hard liners. This country is just barely 50% white right now and 50% of those whites are democrats so the NO political party can afford to single out an ethnic group for the draconian measures many are calling for.
"And it looks like the Republican-controlled Senate is on the verge of betraying the American people by planning to push through legislation which will implement Bush's disastrous proposals. If the Republicans are looking to retain the Senate in the 2006 elections, they may just be shooting themselves in their collective feet......."
"Are we to sit by idly while illegal immigrants openly march through our streets, trying to intimidate our policy makers, defame our flag, and rewrite our national anthem? Complacency will lead to the end of our prosperity and democracy........"
OH common now, WE haven't been sitting by idly....after all, we have been phoning, faxing, e-mailing....right?
/sarcasm off.
We are far too conservative for our own collective good.
So that's how it went down? GOP needs to start thinking like a chess game in these situations; three or four moves ahead.
"Let us be clear of mind, the rhetoric is blinding and not constructive."
"Concur. The kneejerk Bush hatred is really getting old."
So is the over-reaction to it. Besides, the least you can do if you 'concur' is to stop worsening the situation by trying to spin it, disagreement with Bush's position on the issue is NOT the same as hatred for the man.
There is nothing "draconian" about enforcing our present immigration laws. The majority of LEGAL immigrants are against amnesty, we don't need to kiss butt with a bunch of law breakers trying to force their will upon citizens and legal residents. If you wish to sh** your pants and cave in to these hoodlums and ciminals that is your business, don't expect the rest of us to do so.
Amen to that.
And if you think about the 68% that think things were better back in the time of the Toon, that's not all that hard to believe either.
You have:
45% basic RAT base
10% moderates who are probably all piss'd off at W right now
10% more composed of bushbots and conservatives that are fed up as witnessed by W's 31% approval.
While I'm not a fan of polls it's hard to keep sticking my head in the sand over that fact.
I still think Bush is the master of the rope-a-dope and he'll pull it off one more time...just i time for Nov '06.....I hope.
Bush is from Connecticut.
You do realize that a vast number of those legal immigrants were recipients of amnesty be it Reagan's amnesty of the Viet-Nam boat people? If you think the legal Hispanic community is going to watch television news reports of men women and kids that look just like them and share a common heritage rounded up ala Lian Gonzalez you are woefully ignorant about basic human nature. Hispanics comprised 12% of the electorate in 2004 and Bush won 44% of that vote. That vote was critical to an election he only won with a 3 percent margin. If we drive legal Hispanics completely into the camp of the democrats the democrats will become the permanent majority party.
So true. It's sad to see these open border advocates here in Freerepublic continuously bashing the conservative base and any republican who puts national security above cheap foreign labor.
The loss of any seats will be on them, sadly.
Source is here.
So this argument is a canard. It's already a felony on the second offense.
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A. I wasnt posting to you
B. I wasnt equating the two-I was referring to threads getting hijacked by people calling W Jorge and other foolish statements
C. I wasnt spinning anything, I am vehement in my opposition to any form of amnesty.
and D. You have provided a perfect example of knee jerk reactions. You accuse me of spinning when you dont know a damn thing about my position on this subject.
So is the over-reaction to it.
Over reacting? All I said was it was getting old. It didnt used to be this bad, but then you havent been here long enough to know that.
If Bush doesn't shape up, Repubs will stay home in November, a Dem House will impeach Bush in 2007, and the circus will REALLY come to town.
Will a fully merged USA-Mexico give you the result you want?
This is key-rather than call Bush, Jorge, and trash him without hearing his updated proposal (It must be updated, or else he wouldnt be having a primetime Oval Office speech)going after the industries that bring them in would be a good start. The city I live in hired a contractor for a bikepath that hired illegals to do the landscaping. My phone conversation with the guy who accepts bid proposals for city work did not go well. He actually said the bids from legal landscapers werent, and I quote, "cost effective"..
He was born in Connecticut, but spent 58 of his 59 years in Texas.
He's a Texan.
Do you need a cigarette after that orgasm?
Think of this they aren't even paying the penalties, such as they are, for the first offense let alone second...bottom line is laws are not being enforced at all.
Laws are not being enforced to go after and collect back taxes from the employers employing these invaders who pay these people under the table.
I see that lately the biggest companies that appear to be hiring and doing it right out in the open are CONSTRUCTION companies!
Cost effective? Than maybe the IRS would like to know just how cost effective it was!
See my above post-city government is even getting in the game..
That is a conspiracy canard.
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