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Giant Wind Turbines ... Floating wind farms offshore could lead to affordable electricity
Technology Review ^ | May 9., 2006 | By Kevin Bullis

Posted on 05/09/2006 5:54:52 AM PDT by aculeus

Huge turbines mounted on floating platforms could make wind power competitive with fossil-fuel-generated electricity. These advanced wind turbines, which are in development, could be situated far from the shore, too, avoiding battles with onshore residents who object to the presence of large wind farms.

GE has announced a $27 million partnership with the U.S. Department of Energy to develop 5-7 megawatt turbines by 2009, each of which could power well over 1,000 homes. Supplanting the company's current 3.6 megawatt turbines, these giant energy factories should make wind power more economical, since the major cost of building and installing offshore wind farms does not depend primarily on a turbine's size, but on the number of them that need to be erected. By 2015, GE could have even bigger, 10-megawatt turbines, according to Jim Lyons, leader of advanced technology for GE's wind energy business.

Making the turbines larger, however, comes with technical challenges. The new turbines will be mounted to towers rising 90 to 95 meters and will have rotors measuring 140 meters in diameter. Imagine a structure larger than a football field rotating at a leisurely ten to twelve revolutions per minute. To decrease the weight of the massive rotor blades and tower, GE plans to use composite fibers, as well as alternatives to the weighty gearboxes now used to transfer energy from the rotor to the electrical generator.

The new turbines will also need to be more reliable than their onshore counterparts, because maintenance will be far more difficult and expensive. GE is developing new ways to deal with the extreme battering the turbines will receive from the wind.

Today's turbines compensate for changes in wind speed by actively turning their blades to catch less wind. The new turbines will adapt to gusts by using sensor-based technology that will quickly angle the blades out of the wind to reduce the wear and tear on the turbine. These sensors could include basic accelerometers, embedded fiber-optic sensors that detect shape changes in the blades in response to gusts, and forward-looking, laser-based "radar" that allows the turbine to anticipate wind-speed changes.

None of these technological advances will make a difference, however, if erecting monstrous turbines is blocked by shoreline residents who see them as visual pollution. A potential solution is floating platforms that allow the turbines to be located farther out in the sea -- and out of sight. Current projects locate wind turbines in waters less than 20 meters deep. Going farther out on the continental shelf, which extends several hundred kilometers from the U.S. East Coast, would mean locating them at depths up to 50 meters, which is probably too deep to build towers or trusses that support turbines standing on the sea floor, at least at an affordable cost.

MIT researchers recently demonstrated the feasibility of "tension-leg" platforms, a technology that oil companies have recently adopted for deep-water rigs. The wind turbines and towers would be assembled at a shipyard and placed on top of large floating cylinders (see images). The canisters would be ballasted on the bottom with high-density concrete to keep the structure from tipping over, and the whole turbine assembly would be tugged out to sea.

There, four steel cables would be attached to the platform, anchoring it to the sea floor. First, though, some water would be allowed into the cylinder, causing the structure to sink more into the water. Once the cables are attached, the water is pumped back out again, allowing the turbine to rise, tightening the cables, and preventing the turbine from bobbing up and down, yet allowing some lateral movement that would help cushion the impact of storm waves on the tower. (The blades themselves would be high enough to avoid even waves from hurricanes.) The cable tension can be adjusted for different weather conditions, says Paul Sclavounos, professor of mechanical engineering and naval architecture at MIT.

Based on wind-speed measurements, researchers at MIT, led by Stephen Connors, director of the Analysis Group for Regional Electricity Alternatives, calculated that large turbines located far offshore could ultimately cost less per power generated than either land-based turbines or near-offshore ones, even factoring in extra costs, such as much longer underground electricity transmission cables. The upside: much more fast and steady wind, which would allow the turbines to generate power at 50 percent capacity on average throughout the year, compared with 30 percent or less with on-land turbines.

Offshore wind farms could also have the advantage of being close to big cities, unlike wind farms in remote areas, which require significant power grid upgrades to transport the power to places where it's needed. "I personally see this as the endgame," says GE's Lyons. "We'll see gigawatt-scale projects delivering clean energy to the East Coast.

But making the technology cheap enough to be feasible will not be easy. "You've got to push all the buttons to get the costs down," Lyons says. Using a combination of far-offshore and land-based farms, however, one day it may be possible to provide 20 percent of U.S. energy from wind, he says.


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Wind turbines compared with the Washington Monument in Washington DC. The new GE turbine would be shorter but have a larger rotor diameter (140 meters) than an experimental five-megawatt turbine

1 posted on 05/09/2006 5:54:54 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Er, ah, em, Not in my backyard!


2 posted on 05/09/2006 5:58:09 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: aculeus
avoiding battles with onshore residents Ted Kennedy who objects to the presence of large wind farms.

Fixed.
3 posted on 05/09/2006 5:58:48 AM PDT by JamesP81
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To: aculeus

We've had plenty of wind in the Gulf for the last few years. Convert all that hurricane energy to electricity.

Hey at least it sounds great.


4 posted on 05/09/2006 5:58:58 AM PDT by gbaker
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To: aculeus

Another nifty method of generating energy is to use tidal energy by putting turbines in the ocean at strategic locations where large tidal currents flow. When the tide goes out, they generate. When the tide comes in, they generate.

There are some places where the tidal currents are 10-15mph which is a LOT of energy.

Oh wait...sorry, I forgot about the environmental impacts that would have to be studied for about a century.


5 posted on 05/09/2006 6:01:02 AM PDT by Paloma_55 (Tax n Spend or Borrow n Spend... take your choice!)
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To: aculeus

Pointless. Electricity would have to get pretty expensive to make this worthwhile.


6 posted on 05/09/2006 6:01:37 AM PDT by P-40 (http://www.590klbj.com/forum/index.php?referrerid=1854)
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To: COBOL2Java

Oh gosh...who is in that picture with Ted? Is that his daughter Kara? I knew she was ill.

You are right about the hypocrisy of the "NIMBY's". I would bet there won't be any wind farms (which are UUUUGGGLY) off the shores of Malibu or Massachusetts.


7 posted on 05/09/2006 6:01:50 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: aculeus
Hook a wind generator to Washington and supply America for decades to come. Or does DC flatulence work?
8 posted on 05/09/2006 6:04:26 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: aculeus
This sounds like a good idea.

One problem though is the variability of the wind- you have to have reserve capability somewhere ready to supply power when the wind speed changes (and the power is proportional to the square of wind velocity, iirc).

So if you have a hundred megawatts of wind power, you have to have at least fifty megawatts of other power in reserve, with turbines spinning.

One way around that is to use the offshore power to make hydrogen, which can be piped or shipped to shore. Then, you collect all of the power in a portable format and don't need the ready reserve. You integrate the wind power and the peaks and so forth become irrelevant. And you are already sitting in salty water!

One environmental question, though- if you have an airflow moving across the planet that contains a certain amount of energy, what's the long term effect of removing a few percent of it? Let's assume that the energy extracted from the wind is similar to the adiabatic changes brought about by altitude. Then, a big wind farm would be like erecting a mountain range offshore. It will change the weather for some distance downwind (the average airflow energy and velocity will have been changed by the acres of turbine sweep).
9 posted on 05/09/2006 6:05:09 AM PDT by DBrow
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Placing them far offshore might also cut down the number of birds chopped up, yet another complaint about wind power.


10 posted on 05/09/2006 6:06:09 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: DBrow
(and the power is proportional to the square of wind velocity, iirc)

The force is proportional to the square of velocity. The power is proportional to the cube of velocity.

11 posted on 05/09/2006 6:07:47 AM PDT by Palmetto
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To: aculeus

cool. Bush wants to allocate $100Billion to a pointless return to the moon. If we have to blow $100B in taxpayer's money, at least this might promise some return on the money.


12 posted on 05/09/2006 6:09:52 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: silverleaf
Oh gosh...who is in that picture with Ted? Is that his daughter Kara?

Either that or his man-servant Hajji.

13 posted on 05/09/2006 6:10:07 AM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: COBOL2Java
"Er, ah, em, Not in my backyard!

Let the little people put up with 'em (while they're eating cake).

Do you know who I am !?!!

You don't talk to me like that!

14 posted on 05/09/2006 6:10:14 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America!)
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To: conservativewasp
Placing them far offshore might also cut down the number of birds chopped up, yet another complaint about wind power.

You are repeating a lie.

15 posted on 05/09/2006 6:11:03 AM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Paloma_55

Funny you should mention the use of tidal energy. There's a publicly-traded company that I've been eyeing for about a year.

Check out this site:

http://www.oceanpowertechnologies.com

In certain areas of the world, this technology has serious potential.


16 posted on 05/09/2006 6:14:40 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: D-Chivas

Are you saying chopped up birds are not something the opposition to these windmills complain about? Are you saying dead birds are never found beneath these things? All it takes is a couple for some freak to complain about it. Place them offshore and any bird that happens to fly out there and is unlucky enough to meet a rotor blade will simply float away.


17 posted on 05/09/2006 6:17:02 AM PDT by conservativewasp (Liberals lie for sport and hate our country.)
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To: DBrow
"... if you have an airflow moving across the planet that contains a certain amount of energy, what's the long term effect of removing a few percent of it?"

All we need are a few dozen "scientists" to say that these wind farms will counter global warming and this project is golden.

18 posted on 05/09/2006 6:19:51 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: COBOL2Java
No off-shore wind farm if these two leading "environmentalists" have their way....


19 posted on 05/09/2006 6:22:10 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (No program, no ideas, no clue: The democrats!)
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To: silverleaf

It's his "suicide driver".


20 posted on 05/09/2006 6:29:08 AM PDT by lrb111 (Minutemen - Doing jobs the White House won't do.)
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