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'They raped every German female from eight to 80'
Guardian ^ | May 1, 2002 | Antony Beevor

Posted on 05/09/2006 4:55:01 AM PDT by Lukasz

"Red Army soldiers don't believe in 'individual liaisons' with German women," wrote the playwright Zakhar Agranenko in his diary when serving as an officer of marine infantry in East Prussia. "Nine, ten, twelve men at a time - they rape them on a collective basis."

The Soviet armies advancing into East Prussia in January 1945, in huge, long columns, were an extraordinary mixture of modern and medieval: tank troops in padded black helmets, Cossack cavalrymen on shaggy mounts with loot strapped to the saddle, lend-lease Studebakers and Dodges towing light field guns, and then a second echelon in horse-drawn carts. The variety of character among the soldiers was almost as great as that of their military equipment.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Germany; Miscellaneous; Russia
KEYWORDS: communism; germany; humanrights; rape; redarmy; russia; sovietunion; su; warcrimes
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Today some people mark WWII victory day. I read some articles and I’m already sick and tired of how great red army was supposed to be. This article is showing true face of this criminal organization called “army”.
1 posted on 05/09/2006 4:55:04 AM PDT by Lukasz
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2 posted on 05/09/2006 4:56:09 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz

Yeah, it's almost as bad as what the German troops did in Russia.

Don't want to reap the whirlwind? Then don't sow the wind in the first place.


3 posted on 05/09/2006 4:57:32 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Lukasz

I've read his book "Fall of Berlin 1945". Excellent read.


4 posted on 05/09/2006 4:58:59 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Lukasz

And yet the Japanese army from the same war probably had them beat for atrocities and murder-by-mass-rape.


5 posted on 05/09/2006 4:59:25 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I agree with you. Not pleasant to read about, but payback is always a bitch. And the Germans really had it coming.


6 posted on 05/09/2006 4:59:41 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Ditto.


7 posted on 05/09/2006 5:00:01 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Lukasz

'They raped every German female from eight to 80'

Thats ironic because the Nazis killed every Russian female from 8 to 80.


8 posted on 05/09/2006 5:01:56 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Quick! Press the Sarcasm button!)
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I'm not sure that Japan even today acknowledges the rape of Nanking.
9 posted on 05/09/2006 5:03:07 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Lukasz

Some 20 years ago, I read a newly published diary by a woman living in Berlin at the end of WWII as the Russians approached and entered the center....hair-raising, awful stuff.


10 posted on 05/09/2006 5:03:24 AM PDT by Molly Pitcher (We are Americans...the sons and daughters of liberty...*.from FReeper the Real fifi*))
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To: Lukasz

This is a "Patton was right" BTTT.


11 posted on 05/09/2006 5:04:00 AM PDT by tcostell
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To: VanDeKoik

And the ones they didn't were shipped back to the Reich for use as slave labor.


12 posted on 05/09/2006 5:04:52 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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I'm not sure that Japan even today acknowledges the rape of Nanking.

They don't.

About 20 years ago, the Japanese Ministry of Education put out textbooks saying that Japan "advanced" into China (vs. "invaded").

Japan refuses to "get it."

13 posted on 05/09/2006 5:06:21 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
The war on the Eastern front was intensely vicious compared to the war on the Western front.

Soviet casualties in taking Berlin were more than all of those taken by the western allies in the entire 44-45 campaign. The Germans fought harder in the east because they knew what was coming to them if they lost.

14 posted on 05/09/2006 5:06:35 AM PDT by glorgau
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The Germans fought harder in the east because they knew what was coming to them if they lost.

Yeah, they were saying, "Uh-oh, we're going to get repaid in the same coin."

15 posted on 05/09/2006 5:07:43 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: rbg81
Not pleasant to read about, but payback is always a bitch. And the Germans really had it coming.

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Yep, all those rat-bastard, murdering Nazi 8-16 year old girls. Sure got what they deserved. That'll teach them. Idiot.

16 posted on 05/09/2006 5:07:47 AM PDT by wtc911 (You can't get there from here)
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Thats ironic because the Nazis killed every Russian female from 8 to 80.

The Russians often raped their own woman as well, as author claims.

17 posted on 05/09/2006 5:08:02 AM PDT by Lukasz
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I guess they also have no recollection of Unit 731 either.


18 posted on 05/09/2006 5:08:18 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: rbg81
I agree with you. Not pleasant to read about, but payback is always a bitch. And the Germans really had it coming.

The problem is that the Germans who "had it coming" (namely the ones who committed the various offenses of the Nazi regime) were not the ones who got raped. As generally happens in war, grievences get taken out on entire populations

I suppose, in light of the makeup of the 9/11 teams (15 out of 19 Saudi), we have an excuse to gang-rape any Saudi women tourists we meet?

19 posted on 05/09/2006 5:09:25 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: Lukasz
AFAIK, the Germans were particularly brutal to the Russians as well.

That aside from the other evils they had committed.

I'm not saying that the Russians were right to act the way they did, but the master race Aryans were not innocent victims IMO.
20 posted on 05/09/2006 5:09:48 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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