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Arizona's Prop 200 Screening Out Illegal (Alien) Voters
NewsMax.com ^ | Monday, May 9, 2005 11:45 a.m. EDT

Posted on 05/06/2006 10:01:52 PM PDT by dennisw

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To: dennisw
This NewsMax article is a good example of mis-informatiom.

They write an article about an article and leave out a key statement in the original article.

"We recognized there was going to be some potential confusion", said Secretary of State Kevin Tyne. "People are still learning about the new rules"

Source

41 posted on 05/07/2006 4:16:35 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: pollywog

Texas is long over-due for this. Why let the Mexicans in the Rio Grande colonias vote in our elections? And Bexar Co. (San Antonio) needs to be cleaned out, too.


42 posted on 05/07/2006 4:20:10 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: pollywog

Gadz - making sure only CITIZENS vote is clearly PRO-American! Lefties are so...so...ARGH!! Must be a B12 deficiency - they're insane! I prescribe beef.


43 posted on 05/07/2006 4:24:17 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: dennisw

"...Paul Eckerstrom, chairman of the Prima County Democratic Party, complained that forcing Arizona voters to prove their citizenship is "anti-American and anti-democracy..."

Clear evidence why I hate 99.9% of F#*king DIMS and will never vote for one regardless of how spineless Republicans have become.


44 posted on 05/07/2006 4:27:43 AM PDT by Postman
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To: dennisw

The second step in the mis-information technique is to take a year old article and post at FR as if it is current.


45 posted on 05/07/2006 4:29:05 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: dennisw
In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

If nothing else should wake up Bush, this must. Surely, he knows which party these new voters will side. Fine employers and build that fence NOW!

46 posted on 05/07/2006 4:36:43 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: pollywog

Because suddenly lawbreaking is the accepted behaviour, another reason the illegals are so bad for this country. It's become fashionable to break every law and get away with it.

This illegal alien breaking and entering and stealing welfare benefits and every right that was ONCE reserved for American legal taxpaying voters is now accepted especially by the open-border trolls.

The two parties have become so vote hungry and so hungry for that lobby money and pandering to big business that they have lost all sense of values or consideration for the citizens they were elected to work for and protect.

Corruption and crime are now the accepted norm.

And we who are still fighting for the America we all know and love are attacked by a few and they know who they are but they are the ones who are anti-American with their open-border socialist communist agenda's.


47 posted on 05/07/2006 4:43:33 AM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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To: dennisw

This article is a year old.


48 posted on 05/07/2006 4:44:04 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: janetgreen

Yup, socialism and communist will reign supreme in 2006, 2008 and the GOP is allowing it for some strange reason. Does the words "war on terror", or "tough on terroism "mean anything to them anymore?

Leaving the border wide open enough for a (God forbid) nuclear weapon can come thru is criminal and not a misdemeaner! Is giving businesses their cheap labor worth it if a weapon enters? Or hoping they will get a few more votes worth it in the long run?

WAKE up GOP! Get back to your roots and values!


49 posted on 05/07/2006 4:47:59 AM PDT by stopem (To allow a bunch of third world country nationals to divide Americans is unconscionable!)
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To: ThomasThomas
It is essentially the same as filing a false document, which is a felony under US Code Title 18, and conviction of a felony makes any immigrant, legal or otherwise, deportable.

Basically, we need to enforce our current laws.
50 posted on 05/07/2006 4:51:28 AM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: dennisw
In Arizona's Prima County alone, elections officials have rejected 59 percent of all applicants in the last two weeks - or 423 of the 712 new registrants.

Holy cow.

Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms.

Figgers.

51 posted on 05/07/2006 4:54:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Darkwolf377
I just woke up this morning and saw this post. Firstly, Way to Go Arizona! This has been one of my biggest concerns about illegal immigration.

Why would a voter object to keeping out votes that would make his own vote less meamingful?

They object because the strenthening of the voter registration law affects their party more than others. Obcviously that is because they register more non-complying voters than other parties.

I am seeing red again.

52 posted on 05/07/2006 5:01:39 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: dennisw

BTTT


53 posted on 05/07/2006 5:04:23 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT
You got it in a nutchell.

This and the Virginia election earlier this week are showing us how it's done--you don't sulk and say "Throw 'em out and teach 'em a lesson" and let the Dems take over--you fight. And you win.

54 posted on 05/07/2006 5:10:49 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (If you flame me I'll ignore you. Assume that to mean I think you're an idiot not worth my time.)
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To: Draco; concerned about politics; Texas_Jarhead
Time to play hardball with government officials and employees. Elected officials, and government employees who handle the public purse, are subject to a higher standard of law than ordinary citizens. They serve under stricter rules, and must abide by specific laws:

ESTABLISHED FACT

Every elected and appointed government official, and government employees---in their capacity as fiduciaries of public monies---are required, by law, to be bonded by state bonding insurance carriers. The express purpose of bonding government officials and employees is to protect the public's money. Each state sets their own regulations, and selects a bonding insurance carrier.

Public entities that mandate bonding include: Municipalities, counties, townships (government employees of licensing agencies, and the like), school districts, ambulance districts, volunteer fire departments, community college districts, public universities, transit authorities, landfills, sewage treatment facilities, public works maintenance facilities, airports.

IMPACT

Taxpayers' concerns center on instances when elected and appointed public officials used government agencies fraudulently, misused tax dollars to build muster zones for illegals, allowed illegals to use phony documentation to get voting rights, government benefits, auto licenses, building permits, welfare, food stamps, health care, school subsidies, and other government benefits, to vote in elections, to vote on tax-exempt municipal financing issues, and the like using false documenation. These are examples of fiduciary negligence by a bonded government employee, and would violate the state's bonding regulations, and the carrier's bonding requirements.

SUMMATION

USING THE PUBLIC ASSETS OF STATE GOVERNMENT---- to pass legislation to allow undocumented immigrants to obtain fraudulent driver's licenses, voting rights, and government benefits---- IS FIDUCIARY NEGLIGENCE BY A BONDED GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL. MISUSE OF PUBLIC AGENCIES AND PUBLIC FUNDS WOULD INCUR FINES OR IMPRISONMENT UNDER BONDING RULES.

FOLLOW-UP (what to look for)

Now, if a bonded government employee OR ELECTED OFFICIAL had previous financial problems---perhaps a bankruptcy or a job loss for financial improprieties, etc, that would preclude bonding---and if they failed to reveal the info to bonding agents, that would subject them to legal penalties for filing false applications.

Public officials with past financial problems who do not qualify for bonding would have to be tossed out of office.

Now, say government funds were stolen and the public official had failed to get bond coverage; the state would have no way to recover that money other than restitution through a criminal prosecution.

Public officials who lied on bonding applications might be subjected to fines or imprisonment.

If it is determined a public official failed to apply for bond coverage, he/she has broken the law, and is subject to an actionable offense.

55 posted on 05/07/2006 5:15:19 AM PDT by Liz (We have room for but one flag, the American flag." —Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: pollywog

Why does no one ever turn to a POS like this and say, and your is a brazen attempt to inject yourself into a system your not entitled to have a say in?


56 posted on 05/07/2006 5:16:46 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Darkwolf377

I've been hearing something very disturbing about the Mexican "uprisings" of late. There is a heavy presence of agencies that have voter registration as their goal - ACORN is one of the agencies. There will now be a flood of new registration forms. In most states, they will be processed because all you need is an address.


57 posted on 05/07/2006 5:20:39 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: dennisw

America is SUPPOSE to be a melting pot NOT
a sponge drenched in debt continually and ineffectively absorbing illegals free health, education, insurance, etc., is draining each and every American tax payer.

The cost continously passed onto Americans through all forms of constant, unexplainable insurance premium hikes far exceeds anything we save spent on vegetables at grocery stores.


58 posted on 05/07/2006 5:37:15 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Yes, the article is a year old. Good point.
Still, I'm glad it was posted because it is a reminder about the need for laws in all 50 states similar to Proposition 200.

One thing about Proposition 200 is that it didn't go far enough. It only applies to new registrations. I wonder how many thousands of illegal registrations were received before Proposition 200 became law?


59 posted on 05/07/2006 6:41:26 AM PDT by Molly K.
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To: dennisw
Despite the fact that it's illegal for non-citizens to vote, the rejections had Arizona Democrats up in arms.

Now we begin to get the bottom of a very real conspiracty. A totalitarian attempt at takeover by the Democrat Party which has been going on for years. The leadership which has been involved in this should be tried for treason and executed.

60 posted on 05/07/2006 6:44:34 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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