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Trashy 'Sopranos' glorifies violence (GREELEY LAUGH ALERT)
Chicago Sun-Times "The Bright One" ^ | May 5, 2006 | ANDREW GREELEY

Posted on 05/06/2006 12:03:25 PM PDT by Chi-townChief

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"Bigots are everywhere" and Greeley just can't resist taking a final slap at Italians. He needs to go back to worrying about how the Notre Dame Fightin' Irish Leprechaun is an insult to his own shanty Irish background.
1 posted on 05/06/2006 12:03:32 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Is this guy still a RC priest?


2 posted on 05/06/2006 12:08:30 PM PDT by Ken522
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Evidently from what I hear.


3 posted on 05/06/2006 12:09:27 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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This season, it is more like "Boring Sorpranos Glorifies Sleep". It is SO dull.

They should bring back the Ryan Chapelle ("24") actor who played Carmella's priest. He was great.

4 posted on 05/06/2006 12:10:17 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Chi-townChief

I think you've misunderstood his point, which I tend to agree with.

The Sopranos is very well done trash, which I frankly haven't watched that many times. It sterotypes Italians in a way that wouldn't be acceptable for any other ethnic group. This is probably because many Italians seem to enjoy and appreciate the sterotyping.

Many central and northern Italians do indeed look down on Italians from southern Italy and Sicily, from whom most Italian-Americans are descended. There was even a political party a few years back of northern Italians who wanted to secede to get away from the southerners.


5 posted on 05/06/2006 12:10:38 PM PDT by Restorer
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Is this guy aware that the Sopranos is practically over? I don't pay for premium channels so I've never watched it, and I've always been bored by all the attention paid to one TV show.


6 posted on 05/06/2006 12:15:14 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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"They should bring back the Ryan Chapelle ("24") actor who played Carmella's priest. He was great."

Yes, he was great in both those parts, but esp. as the Priest.

Isn't this supposed to be the final season? At the rate they are going they are going to end up with more loose ends than a plate of spaghetti.


7 posted on 05/06/2006 12:16:26 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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Yeah, I'm 1/2 Napolitan' myself so I know the whole story about how "all Sicliani carry knives" and how the Marchegian folks in Chicago Heights were from a better part of Italy: "We weren't no peasant dagos!" But Greeley is always an a-hole and he should go back to worrying about his beloved Irish who "saved civilization."


8 posted on 05/06/2006 12:17:17 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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"But Greeley is always an a-hole and he should go back to worrying about his beloved Irish who "saved civilization.""


ROTF!!!



9 posted on 05/06/2006 12:19:09 PM PDT by bonfire
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But Greeley is always an a-hole and he should go back to worrying about his beloved Irish who "saved civilization."

ROFLMAO!! If I recall correctly, didn't Greeley write a series of trashy, sleazy, stupid "novels" back in the '70's and '80's? I remember reading the first few pages of one and throwing it in the trashcan at the Rock Island station downtown.

He is a moron of the first order, and is typical of one example(out of many) of why I am embarrassed to acknowledge my Irish ancestry.

10 posted on 05/06/2006 12:32:52 PM PDT by Rollee (I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth.)
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Yeah, Greeley is somewhat of a soft porn aficionado. But "How the Irish Saved Civilization" actually exists >>> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385418493/sr=8-1/qid=1146944097/ref=sr_1_1/002-0338003-2363215?%5Fencoding=UTF8

They never quite get to the part about how they hid behind their English "oppressors" in World War II.


11 posted on 05/06/2006 12:39:12 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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I know it exists and that's why your comment was so funny!

Simply the title of the book makes me lol!


12 posted on 05/06/2006 12:43:17 PM PDT by bonfire
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the priest did show up in one of the "tony in the hospital" episodes, Carmella spoke to him.


13 posted on 05/06/2006 12:44:33 PM PDT by isom35
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There is something perverse about the show. It makes us -- or a lot of us anyway -- cheer on the evil characters, and that's disturbing. The show does have some humor and topicality that makes it go down easier.

I've been watching "Deadwood" on DVD, and have to wonder just why that show was ever made. To me it looks like either the creator hates the era he's depicting, or he loves it for perverse reasons, that it's hard to share.

It's sort of a "Sopranos" western, but without the humor and contemporary social commentary that makes "The Sopranos" more enjoyable than it ought to be. Of course, with both shows there's always the "what's gonna happen" element that keeps people watching.

14 posted on 05/06/2006 12:47:24 PM PDT by x
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Yeah - I don't mean to sound overly harsh but that book title really sets them up like ducks in a row.


15 posted on 05/06/2006 12:47:40 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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My parents have that book. I would love to ask them questions, particularly about Ireland's behavior during WWII, but don't want to start WWIII.

The Irish are fantastic when it comes to claiming "moral superiority" over everyone else, telling them what to do, and they rival France in the bravery department.

As far as "saving civilization", they think nothing about letting the rest of it get destroyed just as long as they get their shot at the Brits. Again, that goes back to WWII.

I could go on and on and on...

16 posted on 05/06/2006 12:48:32 PM PDT by Rollee (I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth.)
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It's not stereotyping, it's presenting 1 of many subsections of 1 of many racial mixes. There are indeed Italian/ Sicilian organized criminals in this world, there are also Italians and Sicilians who have nothing to do with crime. Problem is from a TV/ movie perspective Italian bakery owners that have no ties to crime are boring. That's why the movies and Sopranos are about the criminals. Though in Sopranos you also have Italian shrinks with no ties to crime, Italian FBI agents whose only ties to crime are trying to put the main characters in jail, and walk by Italians of just about every other profession with no ties to crime other than occassionaly unknowningly serving mobsters as customers. The whole stereotyping claim is BS, always has been since the Italian anti-defamation people first started whining about the first Godfather movie, and will continue to be BS.


17 posted on 05/06/2006 12:49:22 PM PDT by discostu (raise your glass of beer on high, and seal your fate forever)
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To: Chi-townChief

Greeley is a bore.


18 posted on 05/06/2006 12:52:36 PM PDT by aculeus
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It is "The Godfather" all over again, with more explicit sex and more foul words.

Puzo’s characters will long outlive Greeley’s: in fact, no one remembers Greeley’s even now.

19 posted on 05/06/2006 12:55:18 PM PDT by dighton
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I've been watching "Deadwood" on DVD, and have to wonder just why that show was ever made.

I've tried watching it but give up at around the 10th F-Bomb which appears in less than five minutes.

My theory: the scriptwriters are wusses who try to show their "manliness" by causing the characters to F-bomb constantly for an hour.

Like prior years, I'll cancel HBO when the Sopranos' season ends.

20 posted on 05/06/2006 12:56:27 PM PDT by aculeus
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