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AP: 6 Branch Davidians Soon Leave Prison
AP ^ | 19 Apr 06 | Angela K. Brown

Posted on 04/19/2006 3:09:19 PM PDT by rellimpank

WACO, Texas - Thirteen years after the Branch Davidians' armed standoff with federal agents ended in an inferno that killed nearly 80 people, six sect members who were sent to prison are about to be released from custody.

Most of those who will be freed over the next two months escaped from the compound near Waco as it burned to the ground on April 19, 1993 — 51 days after a shootout that erupted when federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents tried to arrest religious leader David Koresh for stockpiling guns and explosives.

The six men went to federal prison for manslaughter, weapons offenses or both in connection with the shootout, which left four federal agents and six Davidians dead.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; branchdavidians; davidians; reno; waco
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1 posted on 04/19/2006 3:09:21 PM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

--and Janet Reno (and her boss) remain unscathed--


2 posted on 04/19/2006 3:10:18 PM PDT by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: rellimpank

Six sect members went to prison? OK. But how many FBI and ATF operatives went to prison? And did Janet Reno go to prison? No? Oh.


3 posted on 04/19/2006 3:14:50 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: rellimpank
Sure, the government (meaning ATF and Bill Clinton) screwed up, but when you wake up in the morning and the preacher is screwing your wife, you live downstairs at the church, and they're making thermite grenades in the sanctuary, odds are you have made some unwise decisions yourself.

Not that pursuing your own lifestyle isn't OK, of course, but there are limits to what other people are going to sympathize with.

Best bet for these guys is to stay away from Church of the First Born (among others).

4 posted on 04/19/2006 3:16:32 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: rellimpank
You mean Satan, of course.

Not sure we'll be able to get around to him quite yet.

5 posted on 04/19/2006 3:17:15 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: rellimpank

The ATF should have been the ones in jail for this one, as they killed children and women in their thirst for public airing on TV.


6 posted on 04/19/2006 3:19:58 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: rellimpank

I think our favorite drunk lesbian Clinton stooge (no Hillary, not you) had better find a place to hide.


7 posted on 04/19/2006 3:23:41 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: muawiyah
Sure, the government (meaning ATF and Bill Clinton) screwed up, but when you wake up in the morning and the preacher is screwing your wife, you live downstairs at the church, and they're making thermite grenades in the sanctuary, odds are you have made some unwise decisions yourself.

Thermite grenades? Where do you come up with that?

Any BATF agent who participated in the Feb. 28 raid without knowing how the search warrant was supposed to be delivered is responsible for eleven counts of Murder in the First Degree. Nobody who has testified with regard to the raid knew of any plan to actually serve the warrant; it would thus appear there was no plan, and thus no legitimate basis for smashing into the home of David Koresh et al. The Davidians had every right to regard the invaders as armed robbers.

As for April 19, if the government didn't burn down the structure, it wasn't for lack of trying. I watched the Waco hearings, and the logical and expected result of the government's plan, as described, would be the death of those inside the building. Using tear gas at all of a building's exits to force people into the interior makes no sense if the goal is to get people out of the building alive. Using pyrotechnic tear gas grenades in a straw-lined building, however, is a good way to start a fire.

8 posted on 04/19/2006 3:24:40 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: rellimpank
Proof positive democRats will persecute a church before taking a stand against terrorism.
9 posted on 04/19/2006 3:28:05 PM PDT by manwiththehands (I'm a single issue voter this year: illegal immigration.)
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To: rellimpank
and Janet Reno (and her boss) remain unscathed--

Her boss and her bosses boss....

Just follow the bouncing ball back to Mena,'Arkinsaw'...

WACO, Texas....just another object lesson for any sheep with ideas....

imo

10 posted on 04/19/2006 3:28:19 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: muawiyah
when you wake up in the morning and the preacher is screwing your wife,

You make quite a point. I imagine the conversation may have gone like this:

Waco Wacko: Hello, I need to speak to the Attorney general, it is an emergency.

Jack Reno: May i help you?

WW: Yes, the preacher is screwing my wife, and they are making bombs in the sanctuarary, can you help?

JR: What would you like me to do?

WW: Well, why don't bring the Army down here with a bunch of tanks and bombs and just blow them to smithereens.

JR: I'll need a couple days to get that together for you, but sure, we will do that. Does Tuesday work for you?

WW: No, I have soft ball practice that day, how about Wednesday, say twoish?

JR: We'll be there!

11 posted on 04/19/2006 3:34:08 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Cynicism, is an unpleasant way of telling the truth" -- Lillian Hellman)
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To: supercat
I don't see you much anymore. It's good to see you around.

You remind me of how angry I was at the Weaver hearings. BATF is just wrong, and needs to go away.

/johnny

12 posted on 04/19/2006 3:34:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: supercat

"Using pyrotechnic tear gas grenades in a straw-lined building, however, is a good way to start a fire."

Not to mention that the tear gas results in a very bad chemical when it burns. This chemical is one reason tear gas has been banned by treaties of which the US has signed. Unfortunately those treaties only apply to wars and foreign troops.

The tear gas was pumped in such high concentrations that it directly resulted in some or all of the deaths attributed to asphyxiation. Hydrogen Cyanide is created when tear gas burns and results in severe muscle spasms. One childs back muscles contracted so severely the dead child was found bent in half, backwards.


13 posted on 04/19/2006 3:54:21 PM PDT by driftdiver
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To: rellimpank

The "crime" these people comitted was surviving a government massacre.


14 posted on 04/19/2006 3:56:07 PM PDT by Supernatural (When they come a wull staun ma groon, Staun ma groon al nae be afraid)
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To: rellimpank
The six men went to federal prison for manslaughter, weapons offenses or both in connection with the shootout, which left four federal agents and six Davidians dead

The interesting part of the sentencing was that even though the jury acquitted them of murder of federal officers (feeling they had acted in self defense) the judge sentenced tham as though they had been convicted, for up to 30 years. This was overturned by the Supremes in CASTILLO V. UNITED STATES

15 posted on 04/19/2006 4:19:58 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: ftriggerf

BOOKMARK


16 posted on 04/19/2006 4:25:48 PM PDT by ftriggerf
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To: rellimpank

And while we're strolling down memory lane here, let us not forget another character in that massacre, noneother than U.S. Army General Weaseley Clark, who as I recall, was the Clinton's go-to guy at Fort Hood(?) who provided much of the military hardware that was used at Waco.


17 posted on 04/19/2006 4:38:41 PM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: driftdiver

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives held an art contest for employees' kids, asking them to illustrate what they thought their parents did at work.

Little Dixon didn't draw the Branch Davidian "compound" perfectly. But he sure got the idea.

http://www.clairewolfe.com/wolfesblog/00001980.html

ATF parents make sure their kids understand the importance of burning those dangerous church people alive.


18 posted on 04/19/2006 4:40:28 PM PDT by enviros_kill
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To: mkjessup

Actually the General more involved in Waco then Clark was pulled out of retirement by Rumsfeld and put in charge of the Army .... Schoomaker.


19 posted on 04/19/2006 4:58:58 PM PDT by Yasotay
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To: Michael.SF.

You forgot to add child abuse .... /s


20 posted on 04/19/2006 5:00:30 PM PDT by Yasotay
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