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US colonel offers Iraq an apology of sorts for devastation of Babylon
Belfast Telegraph ^ | 17 April 2006 | Rupert Cornwell

Posted on 04/18/2006 5:21:17 AM PDT by SittinYonder

In an act of at least partial contrition, an officer in charge of the US military occupation of Babylon in 2003 and 2004 has offered to make a formal apology for the destruction his troops wrought on the ancient site.

Colonel John Coleman, former chief of staff for the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force in Iraq, said yesterday that if the head of the Iraqi antiquities board wanted an apology, "if it makes him feel good, we can certainly give him one".

For more than a millennium, Babylon was one of the great cities of antiquity. It reached its greatest glory in the early 6th century BC, as the capital of Nebuchadnezzar II, builder of the celebrated Hanging Gardens.

Babylon declined and fell into ruin after it was conquered by the Persians under Cyrus the Great in around 538BC. But no devastation seems to have matched that inflicted by US troops and their Polish allies after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

Saddam himself had not helped. He had much of the ancient site rebuilt and developed as a tourist site as part of efforts to portray himself as Nebuchadnezzar's modern successor and turn Mesopotamia once more into a regional superpower. He built a contemporary ziggurat-shaped palace nearby and carved out an underground car park among archeological deposits.

But after entering Babylon in April 2003, coalition forces turned the site into a base camp, flattening and compressing tracts of ruins as they built a helicopter pad and fuel stations. The soldiers filled sandbags with archeological fragments and dug trenches through unexcavated areas, while tanks crushed slabs of original 2,600-year-old paving.

"All of these things have combined to do a lot of damage to what is one of the most important, sensitive archeological sites in the whole world," John Curtis, curator of the British Museum's Near East department, said last year.

Col Coleman's repentance was qualified. "If it wasn't for our presence," he told the BBC, "what would the state of those archeological ruins be?" - a repeat of the US claim that had its forces not occupied ancient Babylon, the site would have been laid waste by looters.

"Is there a price for the presence? Sure there is," he declared. "I'll just say that the price, had the presence not been there, would have been far greater."

After US and Polish troops left in 2004, the first restoration plans for Babylon were drawn up. Last November Unesco, the United Nations' cultural and scientific organisation, said it would be carrying out some initial repair work, and setting up a photographic registry of the site.

The work, in which France, Britain, Poland, the US, Iraq, Japan, Italy and the Netherlands are also involved, is being co-ordinated by the German Archaeological Institute, under the direction of the Iraqi authorities and Unesco.

But Babylon is not the only point of archaeological controversy in a country with an estimated 10,000 sites. In a separate complaint, the Iraqi Ministry for Tourism and Antiquities has demanded that US troops pull out of the city of Kish, which dates back 5,000 years, accusing American forces of damaging the precious archaeological site.

It accused the soldiers of preventing anyone from entering the city to assess damage. There has been no comment from the US military.

* At least six Iraqi policeman died and up to 39 others were missing yesterday after insurgents ambushed a police convoy near a US base, officials said. Separately, a suicide car bomber outside Basra wounded four British soldiers at the Shuaiba military base, and killed at least one civilian.

Archaeological cost of invasion

* US Marines from the First Expeditionary Force first set up camp in Babylon in April 2003

* Soldiers filled protective sandbags with sand containing ancient artefacts

* 2,600-year-old pavements were crushed by heavy military vehicles

* Landing helicopters caused structural damage to some of the city's ancient buildings and sandblasted fragile bricks in the palace of Nebuchadnezzar

* Archaeologists say gravel brought in to build car parks and helipads has contaminated key sites

* US troops have also been accused of causing damage to the 5,000-year-old city of Kish by the Iraqi Ministry for Tourism and Antiquities


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: babylon
For some reason this is in the news again. What they seem to fail to understand is that now Babylon has a little more history to it. In 200 years, someone will pick up a discarded and forgotten ring or something with the Eagle, Globe and Anchor. It will be in good condition, buried under the sand for all those years. And when someone says, "I bet you wouldn't take $5,000 for that," the person who found it will say, "Nope."
1 posted on 04/18/2006 5:21:19 AM PDT by SittinYonder
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To: eyespysomething

US, Polish troops did not damage Babylonian site: Iraq minister

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1326693/posts


2 posted on 04/18/2006 5:22:11 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder

We will apologise to babylon when the Muslims apologise for blowing up the statues of Buddha.


3 posted on 04/18/2006 5:24:33 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: SittinYonder

This just in! U.S. Military responsible for the fall of Troy. Special Forces disguised as 'gift'.


4 posted on 04/18/2006 5:25:31 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: SittinYonder

does anyone with local knowledge know why this area was used, i.e. is this the best terrain or location or facility in the area the FOB neded to be?

just curious, it is no secret that ruins thousands of years old will not alter the behavior of a military force to the point of not accomplishing a mission or taking additional casualties, nor should it.


5 posted on 04/18/2006 5:35:18 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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yawn...who cares?


6 posted on 04/18/2006 5:38:54 AM PDT by Riptides
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I simply cannot believe that this thread has gone THIS many posts without someone saying (ahem) "Alas Babylon".

Oops. ;)


7 posted on 04/18/2006 5:42:25 AM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: SittinYonder

No military in the history of the world has ever wrought so much damage upon its enemies, while at the same time been so careful of collateral damage and deaths as the United States military.


8 posted on 04/18/2006 5:47:00 AM PDT by eyespysomething (American liberals like everything about the struggle for freedom except the struggle.)
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Well the emblem of the US Army's 10th Special Forces Group is the Trojan Horse.


9 posted on 04/18/2006 5:47:52 AM PDT by Boris99
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* Soldiers filled protective sandbags with sand containing ancient artifacts

* Landing helicopters caused structural damage to some of the city's ancient buildings and sandblasted fragile bricks in the palace of Nebuchadnezzar

First, the sandbags are still there. So whatever "ancient artifacts" were scooped up are not gone. Second, I really doubt a helicopter can really compete with thousands of years sandstorms...
10 posted on 04/18/2006 5:49:05 AM PDT by DB (©)
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While I weep for the loss of any ancient artifacts (having read "The Richest Man in Babylon"), it's Mesopotamia, for God's sake. You can't swing a dead cat without hitting an ancient artifact.


11 posted on 04/18/2006 5:54:11 AM PDT by cotton1706
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You can't swing a dead cat without hitting an ancient artifact.

That's right. And I suspect anything damaged held little significance.

12 posted on 04/18/2006 5:56:00 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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"Col. Coleman's repentance was qualified."
It certainly was. He explained in detailed why it wasn't justified. Good for him.


13 posted on 04/18/2006 6:08:32 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: eyespysomething
No military in the history of the world has ever wrought so much damage upon its enemies, while at the same time been so careful of collateral damage and deaths as the United States military.

My response to all this jibbery-joob would be to throw up my hands and say, "Hey, we're just makin' more history. What's the BFD?"

14 posted on 04/18/2006 6:11:27 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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Well the emblem of the US Army's 10th Special Forces Group is the Trojan Horse.

Coincidence? I think not! ;-)

15 posted on 04/18/2006 6:30:25 AM PDT by 6SJ7
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...one of the most important, sensitive...

Every thing, every place, every day, every building in the middle east has some "most important, sensitive" description attached. Especially if the US has been anywhere near it.

16 posted on 04/18/2006 7:35:22 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Go home and fix your own country before you complain about ours.)
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I was just reading this on Drudge. I can remember whent he war first started and the stories that were coming out THEN were that (*in my best George HW Bush voice*) Saddam, had caused all of the distruction of Babylon.


17 posted on 04/18/2006 7:56:06 AM PDT by N8VTXNinWV
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I was thinking you can't swing a dead jihadist by his beard without hitting an ancient artifact....

Marines I ORDER you to say your sorry!


18 posted on 04/18/2006 7:58:49 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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