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Patriot Act bars Cuban rebels
Miami Herald ^ | Apr. 12, 2006 | PABLO BACHELET

Posted on 04/12/2006 6:20:35 AM PDT by twippo

Supporters of an old anti-Castro rebellion are having difficulties getting asylum in the United States because the Patriot Act labels them terrorists.

WASHINGTON - Four decades ago, thousands of Cubans took to the Escambray mountains in a CIA-backed guerrilla war against Fidel Castro. Today, U.S. law brands them as terrorists.

(Excerpt) Read more at miami.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Florida; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anticastro; castro; cuba; cuban; cubanamericans; immigration; libertarians; patriotact; terrorism; wot
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1 posted on 04/12/2006 6:20:36 AM PDT by twippo
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To: twippo
What the f*ck? Cuban patriots who fought to overthrow a Communist tyranny are labeled "terrorists." The Patriot Act would have treated the American revolutionaries as terrorists for defying the Crown.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

2 posted on 04/12/2006 6:22:58 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Terrorism is supposed to involve use of force or violence against **civilians**, not illegitimate governments.


3 posted on 04/12/2006 6:33:52 AM PDT by twippo (Ted's of Beverly Hills: We want to put our meat in your mouth.)
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To: twippo
The Patriot Act defines terrorism as ''any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed.'' .......

By that definition,reading the Bible in public in Iran is an act of terrorism.

4 posted on 04/12/2006 7:16:34 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: twippo

Perhaps you could find the defintion of a terrorist organization in the Patriot act? The definition there is circular-- any organization that engages in terrorist activity which is not defined. However, domestic terrorism is defined as any act "dangerous to human life" that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Hmmm... peaceful protest of an abortion clinic (trespassing) is clearly terrorism by this definition... in fact it is so broad it could mean almost anything... we get the government we deserve, by electing officials who don't even bother to read the bills they vote for.


5 posted on 04/12/2006 7:29:13 AM PDT by LambSlave (The truth will set you free)
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To: Polybius

By that definition, terrorism is simply any illegal activity, like shoplifting.


6 posted on 04/12/2006 12:12:07 PM PDT by twippo (Ted's of Beverly Hills: We want to put our meat in your mouth.)
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To: twippo

bttt


7 posted on 04/12/2006 3:50:39 PM PDT by twippo (Ted's of Beverly Hills: We want to put our meat in your mouth.)
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To: twippo
Meanwhile, Illegal mexicans flood accross our borders with hardly a peep of resistance from the government.

Its a crazy mixed up - f*&ked up world.

8 posted on 04/12/2006 3:58:34 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: traviskicks

unPATRIOT ACT ping

Rahmatullah Hashemi a TALIBAN Spokesperson is now an undergraduate at Yale University holding keggers in his dormroom on the weekends probably getting taxpayer funded government grants to attend Yale and these cuban freedom fighters are labeled as terrorist under the patriot act we do get the government we deserve and voting for the single republicrat party is not going to get us anything different.


9 posted on 04/12/2006 4:08:23 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Travis McGee

ping


10 posted on 04/12/2006 4:08:40 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: twippo
The Patriot Act defines terrorism as ''any activity which is unlawful under the laws of the place where it is committed.

This ambiguity is exactly why I don't like the Patriot Act. Can you imagine Janet Reno with this?

11 posted on 04/12/2006 4:14:43 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Join the FR folding team!! http://vspx27.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=36120)
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To: twippo

I wish they would use the P.A. to only go after the original intended offenders, like strip club owners...


12 posted on 04/12/2006 4:28:02 PM PDT by isom35
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To: freepatriot32; albertp; Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; Americanwolfsbrother; AlexandriaDuke; ...
WASHINGTON - Four decades ago, thousands of Cubans took to the Escambray mountains in a CIA-backed guerrilla war against Fidel Castro. Today, U.S. law brands them as terrorists.





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13 posted on 04/12/2006 6:42:24 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: twippo
The Escambray guerrillas and many other anti-Castro movements were supported by the CIA in the early 1960s with food, weapons and even explosives meant for sabotage

The Bush administration cannot distinguish between freedom fighters and terrorists.

Ronald Reagan must be rolling in his grave. Now all the anti-communist rebels are considered terrorists by the Bush officials.

14 posted on 04/12/2006 6:47:23 PM PDT by daivid
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To: traviskicks; joesnuffy
Do they really think that there will somehow be formulated a law that will ban these Cubans from entry? Do they really think that the reason terrorists were let in is because the laws weren't strict enough? NO, the 9/11 terrorists got in because the executive branch civil servants weren't doing their job and rubber-stamped Saudi visas! There could be no more perfect example of how Homeland Security and the State Department are using their 'lack of discretion' under the law to pervert its intentions.

ELEVEN TRUTHS ABOUT TYRANNY
1) Any law the electorate sees as being open to being perverted from its original intent will be perverted in a manner that exceeds the manner of perversion seen at the time.
LibertarianInExile's Corollary
Executive officials will develop implementation policies that further pervert the law from the stated intentions of those voting for it (e.g., zero-tolerance, may-issue, etc.).
2) Any law that is so difficult to pass it requires the citizens be assured it will not be a stepping stone to worse laws will in fact be a stepping stone to worse laws.
3) Any law that requires the citizens be assured the law does not mean what the citizens fear, means exactly what the citizens fear.
4) Any law passed in a good cause will be interpreted to apply to causes against the wishes of the people.
5) Any law enacted to help any one group will be applied to harm people not in that group.
6) Everything the government says will never happen will happen.
JoeSnuffy's Corollary
Elected representatives who voted for a law will later claim they had no idea that law would be 'abused,' even in the face of opponents to the law stating the contrary prior to its passage.
7) What the government says it could not foresee, the government has planned for.
8) When there is a budget shortfall to cover non-essential government services the citizens will be given the choice between higher taxes or the loss of essential government services.
9) Should the citizens mount a successful effort to stop a piece of legislation the same legislation will be passed under a different name.
10) All deprivations of freedom and choice will be increased rather than reversed.
11) Any government that has to build safeguards into a law so that it will not be abused is providing guidelines for abusing the law without violating it.

15 posted on 04/12/2006 6:58:15 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff and the President related?)
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To: twippo
c'mon people...fix the Patriot Act so that it allows our friends to come here.

And Cuban freedom fighters are our friends..more than anyone.

Send letters to your congresscritters.
16 posted on 04/12/2006 7:03:37 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

There are many in SoFla who think it's unfair that while many immigrant nationalities are fleeing communist regimes, only Cubans are always granted asylum if they reach U.S. soil.


17 posted on 04/12/2006 7:13:48 PM PDT by twippo (Ted's of Beverly Hills: We want to put our meat in your mouth.)
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To: LibertarianInExile

wow, that is a good list - do you mind if I pass it on (with due credit)?


18 posted on 04/12/2006 7:26:49 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/israel_palestine_conflict.htm)
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To: twippo

many immigrant nationalities are fleeing communist regimes
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Like who? Name them. I've got N. Korea, Cuba, and maybe Belarus on my list of official commie states. OK add the PRC although after visting a couple years ago it seemed more capitalistic than the US.


19 posted on 04/12/2006 7:37:18 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

You're right, I would have been more correct to have said "many immigrants" just with the population of PRC alone. Venezuela may be added to that list in the near future.

PRC has experienced economic reforms, but there is still no genuine freedom of religion, and they still force abortions and sterilizations on women.

Video of PRC government destroying a church
www.persecution.com/china/

Chinese Woman Arrested for Protesting Her Forced Abortion Tortured in Prison
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/apr/06041007.html


20 posted on 04/12/2006 7:52:54 PM PDT by twippo (Ted's of Beverly Hills: We want to put our meat in your mouth.)
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