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Antonin Scalia: Don’t Impose Foreign Law on Americans
The American Enterprise ^ | May 2006 | Antonin Scalia

Posted on 04/10/2006 8:09:19 AM PDT by quidnunc

I’m talking today about the use of foreign law in American judicial opinions, and most of what I have to say is unfavorable, so I feel I should begin by pointing out that I am not a xenophobe. I don’t mind foreign law. In fact, in my years as a law professor, I used to teach foreign law. You don’t understand your own language until you’ve taken some foreign language, and I think you do not understand your own legal system—its distinctiveness, and what drives it—until you examine some other system.

I do not take the position that foreign law is never, ever relevant to American judicial opinions. It sometimes is. For example, in the interpretation of treaties, whose object is to have nations agree on a particular course of action, I am inclined to follow the interpretation of other signatories so long as it’s within the realm of reasonableness. I also think that foreign law is sometimes relevant to the meaning of an American statute. For example, our Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act permits suits for property “taken in violation of international law.” We had a case a few terms ago involving the seizure of some valuable paintings by the Nazis. Obviously, whether the person seeking to have the paintings restored was entitled to them depended upon whether that person owned the paintings—and that was a question of Austrian law. So we obviously had to consult Austrian law for that purpose.

I think foreign law can also profitably be discussed in the opinions of U.S. courts where it is consulted to predict results of a particular ruling. You can look to foreign law and say, gee, they did this in Germany and the skies didn’t fall. That’s certainly a very valid use of foreign law.

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1 posted on 04/10/2006 8:09:21 AM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
You could take Scalia, split him in half and each half would still be smarter than anyone else on the court.

But then Scalia's discarded fingernail clippings would do a better job than Ginsburg, Stevens or Breyer.

2 posted on 04/10/2006 8:17:42 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (If you have a leaking pipe, you shut off the water valve before deciding on amnesty for the puddles.)
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To: quidnunc
Don’t Impose Foreign Law on Americans

Ahhhhhh, wasn't that one of the reasons we became our own nation to begin with?

3 posted on 04/10/2006 8:18:18 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Well technically no. It wasn't foreign law. You lot were British at the time :0)


4 posted on 04/10/2006 9:24:26 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

fyi


5 posted on 04/10/2006 9:25:39 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: KarlInOhio
Foreign law has no standing as a basis for interpreting a constitutional question (the role of SCOTUS) in the United States. If foreign law supports the constitution it is redundant and unnecessary. If it is contrary to the constitution, then the justices are duty bound to uphold the constitution. If it is not touched on by the constitution, then it falls under the power of legislation to address and the people ultimately decide the issue through the exercise of their constitutionally based votes.

There is simply no instance where foreign law has a role in deciding a constitutional issue. If Scotus uses foreign law to decide an issue, they are subverting the constitution.
6 posted on 04/10/2006 9:35:57 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: agere_contra

Nar, not British at the time. We were colonists. If we had been British, then the same laws that applied to a Brit in London would have applied to a colonist in Williamsburg. Didn't happen. We were economic slaves to an expansionist empire.

Now we are economic slaves to corporate USA, compliments of the US congress. Standard of living has improved a bit, though.


7 posted on 04/10/2006 9:39:19 AM PDT by jbp1 (be nice now)
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To: quidnunc
Duh.

Dan
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8 posted on 04/10/2006 9:45:10 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: quidnunc

I get the impression that references to foreign law for reasons other that interpretations of treaties and such are rather Eurocentric? Isn't this exactly what leftists decry?


9 posted on 04/10/2006 11:07:27 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: agere_contra; Puppage

<< Well technically no. It wasn't foreign law. You lot were British at the time :0) >>

Pigs arse, we were!

We were Americans and the tyrant's "law," then, as now, was that of the foreign enemy.


10 posted on 04/10/2006 1:14:42 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: upchuck

SPUE (Society for the Prevention of Unnecessary Excerpting; check the list) to the rescue once again:

[Got your sixes, upchuck!]

Don’t Impose Foreign Law on Americans
By Antonin Scalia


Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia recently delivered these remarks at the American Enterprise Institute:



I’m talking today about the use of for­eign law in American judicial opin­ions, and most of what I have to say is unfavorable, so I feel I should begin by pointing out that I am not a xenophobe. I don’t mind foreign law. In fact, in my years as a law professor, I used to teach foreign law. You don’t understand your own language until you’ve taken some foreign language, and I think you do not understand your own legal system—its distinctiveness, and what drives it—until you examine some other system.



I do not take the position that foreign law is never, ever relevant to American judicial opinions. It sometimes is. For example, in the interpretation of trea­ties, whose object is to have nations agree on a particular course of action, I am inclined to follow the interpretation of other signatories so long as it’s within the realm of reasonableness. I also think that foreign law is sometimes relevant to the meaning of an American statute. For example, our Foreign Sovereign Immu­nities Act permits suits for property “taken in violation of international law.” We had a case a few terms ago involving the seizure of some valuable paintings by the Nazis. Obviously, whether the person seeking to have the paintings restored was entitled to them depended upon whether that person owned the paintings—and that was a question of Austrian law. So we obviously had to consult Austrian law for that purpose.



I think foreign law can also profitably be discussed in the opinions of U.S. courts where it is consulted to predict results of a particular ruling. You can look to foreign law and say, gee, they did this in Germany and the skies didn’t fall. That’s certainly a very valid use of foreign law.



But those are not the uses that worry people. I think people are concerned principally about the use of foreign law in the interpretation of the United States Constitution. Even there I have to tell you I cannot say it is never relevant. Of course, the foreign law I think is relevant is very old foreign law. Very old English law—because what is meant by the terms of our federal Constitution depended upon what Englishmen in 1791 considered due pro­cess of law, what they considered to be cruel and unusual punishments, and so forth. So I use foreign law all the time. But it is all very old English law.



What about modern foreign legal materials? Well, that is where I get off the boat. It is my view that modern foreign law can never be relevant to an interpretation of the meaning of the United States Constitution.



Yet the Supreme Court has recently expanded the use of foreign law. In Law­rence v. Texas, decided in 2003, the Court relied upon action of the British Parlia­ment and a decision of the European Court of Human Rights in declaring that laws punishing homosexual conduct were un-Constitutional in America.



I expect, and fear, that the Court’s use of foreign law in the interpretation of our Constitution will continue at an acceler­ating pace. And I think this for three rea­sons. First, because the “living Constitu­tion” paradigm of interpretation prevails on today’s Court, and indeed in our legal community generally. Under this view, it is the task of the Court to make sure that the current Constitution comports with “the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society.” Once you assume the power to revise what the Constitution requires in order to keep it up to date, you are effectively engaged in the process of writing your Constitution anew, and there is no reason whatever not to consult foreign materials in doing it.



The second reason foreign law is like­ly to be used increasingly is Sir Edmund Hillary’s reason—because it’s there. Let’s face it: it’s pretty hard to put together a respectable number of pages setting forth reasons for newly imposed Consti­tutional prescriptions or prohibitions (as a legal opinion is supposed to) that do not at all rest upon one’s moral senti­ments, one’s view of natural law, one’s philosophy, or one’s religion. Decisions on such matters, whether taken demo­cratically by society or undemocratically by courts, often have nothing to do with logic or analysis. So judicial opinions will be driven to philosophic or poetic explanations—such as appeared in the Supreme Court decision not so long ago asserting that at the heart of liberty is the right to define one’s own concept of existence, of meaning of the universe, and of the mystery of human life.



It will seem much more like a real legal opinion if one can cite authority to support the philosophic, moral, or reli­gious conclusions being pronounced. And foreign authority can serve that pur­pose. You can cite the name of the case, and it even has authoritative numbers after it. It looks very legal.



The third reason foreign law will be used increasingly is a pragmatic one. Adding foreign law to the box of avail­able legal tools is attractive to judges because it vastly increases the scope of their discretion. There is something out there for everybody to use, in one part or another, depending upon the result the court wishes to reach. In the Supreme Court’s Lawrence ruling, European law was cited to strike down sodomy laws. But of course Europe is not representa­tive of the whole world, and other bits of international law could just as easily have been pulled into the argument. Consider that eight out of 43 countries in the Americas prohibit sodomy, as do 27 out of 47 Asian/Pacific countries, 33 out of 51 countries in Africa, and 11 out of 14 countries in the Middle East.



Thus, the rest of the world aside from Europe is about evenly split on the issue. And even the uniformity in Europe doesn’t necessarily express the demo­cratic preferences of European citizens. It expresses the solution imposed by the European Court of Human Rights.



Our Supreme Court’s reliance on foreign sources has not only been selec­tive in terms of which foreign laws are consulted. It has also been selective as to when foreign law is consulted at all. For example, allowing states to restrict abor­tion is actually a position the U.S. shares with a majority of foreign countries. According to the U.N., the United States is now one of only 53 countries classi­fied as allowing abortion on demand, versus 139 countries that allow it only under particular circumstances, or not at all. Among those countries the U.N. classified as not allowing abortion on demand were the U.K., Finland, Iceland, India, Ireland, Japan, Luxembourg, Mexico, New Zealand, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, and nearly all of South America. Yet the Court has generally ignored foreign law when justifying its abortion cases.



If there was any thought absolutely foreign to the founders of our country, it was the notion that we Americans should be governed the way Europeans are. In Number 46 of the Federalist, to take just one example, James Madison speaks contemptuously of the governments of Europe which are “afraid to trust the people with arms.” Are we now to revise the Second Amendment because of what these other countries think?



I dare say that few of us here would want our life or liberty subject to the disposition of French or Italian criminal justice—not because those systems are unjust, but because we think ours is bet­ter. What reason is there to believe that the dispositions of a foreign country are so suitable to the morals and manners of our people that they should be judicially imposed through Constitutional adjudi­cation? And is it really an appropriate function of judges to say which foreign laws we pick up, and which we don’t?



I think not.





Published in How Faith Creates Societies May 2006


11 posted on 04/10/2006 1:18:39 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Brian Allen

Thanks!


12 posted on 04/10/2006 3:09:08 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Way to Go.......

Antonio..........

May your tribe increase!!!!


13 posted on 04/10/2006 3:12:29 PM PDT by joyspring777
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To: KarlInOhio
You could take Scalia, split him in half and each half would still be smarter than anyone else on the court.

Yes, his intellect is Alaskan in size.
I guess that would make Thomas Texan in size.

14 posted on 04/10/2006 4:12:04 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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