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Nice Going, Karl
NRO ^ | 05 Apr 06 | John O'Sullivan

Posted on 04/05/2006 7:27:12 PM PDT by rellimpank

From: Nick Machiavelli, Senior Partner, Machiavelli, O’Blarney, Iago, Alcibiades and Morris, Political Consultants.

To: Karl Rove, The Smoke-Filled Room, Lower Basement, The White House, Washington DC.

Dear Karl,

I’m flattered — and pleasantly surprised. Of course, I saw the fine mess you had got yourself (and Junior) into over immigration and the Hispanic vote. But I thought that you would never admit it to yourself, let alone to an old and dear competitor.

When my confidential secretary told me you were on the line, I said: “Lilith, learn from this. A really great man is always prepared to humiliate himself if it safeguards his money, power, and reputation. He can always deny it later when he has triumphed. And who will dare disbelieve him then?”

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alies; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration

1 posted on 04/05/2006 7:27:14 PM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
We both know the textbook definition of “bipartisanship” — that’s the Stupid Party (formally the GOP) getting together with the Evil Party (aka the Democrats) to do something that is both stupid and evil.
2 posted on 04/05/2006 7:32:18 PM PDT by SmithL (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: rellimpank
I saw the fine mess you had got yourself (and Junior)

What a jackass. Anytime I see someone use that term, I tune out.

3 posted on 04/05/2006 7:34:17 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (No respect for conservatives? That's free speech. No respect for liberals? That's hate speech.)
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To: rellimpank

bump.

Bush's immigration bill fiasco is Harriet Miers x 10.


4 posted on 04/05/2006 7:35:09 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: rellimpank

"So who likes the legislation? Its supporters are Wall Street, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, corporate America, and in particular various large employers of illegal alien labor. In other words: the GOP’s big donors, whom the White House has now marshaled into a large “bi-partisan” lobbying group to preach the virtues of legalizing illegal aliens on the airwaves."

I'm impressed with NRO these days. Can you imagine a liberal being so truthful about the same money supporting their position? I see no discussion at all on the lib side except an occasional strained argument that dissent is racist. Ted Kennedy even boasted he was "proud" to be working with the Chamber of Commerce on this one.

"That will alienate the crucial growing Hispanic vote, right? Wrong again, Karl. Doubtless a veto would annoy some Latinos, but most Hispanic voters were born in America and have little investment in illegal immigration. Those of them who are low paid themselves may actually oppose it."

but Karl has successfully spun the story, so far, that Hispanic citizens are particularly fond of amnesties and will vote up or down on Republican on that very issue. It's a racist attitude born by both business and white liberal elites.



5 posted on 04/05/2006 7:40:01 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Maynerd
Bush's immigration bill fiasco is Harriet Miers x 10.

I think you have erred on the conservative side; I think more like 20X.

6 posted on 04/05/2006 7:41:27 PM PDT by Chuck54
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To: Darkwolf377

"What a jackass."

He is snarky. But it's an interesting article, besides the narrative.


7 posted on 04/05/2006 7:42:12 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: SmithL

That's one of my favorite lines.


8 posted on 04/05/2006 7:43:29 PM PDT by Pelham ("Borders? We don' need no stinking borders!")
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To: HiJinx; Cacique; Clemenza

immigration ping


9 posted on 04/05/2006 7:44:37 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: rellimpank
To restore your equilibrium, here are a few facts: in 2004 the Hispanic vote was a modest 6 percent of the voters. As the electoral statistician Steve Sailer has repeatedly pointed out, most recently on the website www.vdare.com, it is growing at the still more modest rate of 0.6 percent every presidential election cycle.

Open borders Republicans will alienate far more than six percent of the vote if they go down the McCain-Kennedy amnesty hole. If they do the right thing and adopt the House bill, they'll pick up far more than six percent.
10 posted on 04/05/2006 7:55:34 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: rellimpank
....here are a few facts: in 2004 the Hispanic vote was a modest 6 percent of the voters. As the electoral statistician Steve Sailer has repeatedly pointed out it is growing at the still more modest rate of 0.6 percent every presidential election cycle. And almost exactly half of the Hispanic vote is concentrated in two states — Republican Texas and Democratic California — that are dependably loyal in their voting habits and so unlikely to sway national elections.

The whole column is well worth reading. Excellent analysis, imo.

11 posted on 04/05/2006 8:05:35 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: rellimpank

"Machiavelli, et al, Political Consultants"

How fitting...


12 posted on 04/05/2006 8:24:12 PM PDT by cll (Carthage must be destroyed)
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To: Shermy

The real tragedy is that we're losing our country to the open-borders crowd -- yes, the Dems but also Bush, McCain, Lindsay Graham (see how Tancredo on his website excoriated Graham for his total lack of principle on this issue!) and others. The sad fact is that some Republican business interests want the cheap labor and the Dems want the free (illegal - but not for long!) votes. Nevermind the hard, terrible reality: Our public school districts are going bankrupt; our social service system is nearing the breaking point; hospitals are curtailing public emergency services and forced to accept illegals who have no insurance; crime and the drug cartel are costing us billions in social and economic costs; 30% of the inmates in CA prisons and jails are illegally here; and this doesn't even touch on the national security danger of our out-of-control border policy. We hear propaganda that would lead us to believe that Hispanics have traditional "family values" -- when nothing could be further from the truth. As Rich Lowry pointed out, Hispanics have a 40% illegitimacy rate and are part of a subculture that is alien to BOTH the U.S. and Mexico! But Mexico has the wisdom to export this social debris to the U.S. with the knowledge that we are too PC and degenerate to oppose it. And the illegals send back about $20 billion so they don't even spend money in our economy -- -so the TOTAL beneficiary of this is the Mexican economy!! So - who's the sucker?


13 posted on 04/05/2006 8:27:19 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: cll
---reminiscent of the law firm "Trickem, Dickem and Dunkem---"

--(Nixon, Gary Hart and Teddy)--

14 posted on 04/05/2006 8:34:16 PM PDT by rellimpank (Don't believe anything about firearms or explosives stated by the mass media---NRABenefactor)
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To: rellimpank

Scathing. Ouch.


15 posted on 04/05/2006 8:41:18 PM PDT by rattrap (Free Paul_Denton)
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To: Shermy

The fact is that the 65% of Americans that oppose the "amnesty" bills of McCain-Kennedy, et al., find themselves without a party. The Reps. have caved to the business interests who want the cheap labor and the Dems want the free votes. I had many reservations about this before, but NOW is the time for third party. It can work in the long run despite all the doubts many may have. I can explain. Meanwhile, Vive Tancredo!!


16 posted on 04/05/2006 8:58:00 PM PDT by T.L.Sink (stopew)
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To: rellimpank

I think he has sand in his vagina.


17 posted on 04/05/2006 9:00:38 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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