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To: Drew68
The Navy was really cracking down on drinking when I got out in 1995. It was getting so 'politically correct' (women in my rating [STG], women on combat vessels, etc.) it was ridiculous , so I brought my 8 yr career to an 'all stop' and mustered out. My oldest boy (a MA3) doesn't believe some of the stories his mother and I tell him (she mustered out an IC2). It's a family tradition to serve in either the Navy or Marines.
10 posted on 04/01/2006 4:31:44 PM PST by CrawDaddyCA (Your Lord and Master...Foamy the Squirrel)
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To: CrawDaddyCA
The Navy was really cracking down on drinking when I got out in 1995.

Now that the navy has gotten rid of the drug users and is processing out the drunks, they have set their sights on PRT failures. If you are overweight, can't run the 1.5 mile or do situps and pushups, you're going home as well. You'll get a chance to get in shape but only one. My command holds "practice PRTs" now in addition to regular PT. And a lot of salty (and overweight) chiefs are howling in anger about this!

12 posted on 04/01/2006 4:39:28 PM PST by Drew68
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To: CrawDaddyCA
I guess you had better find something else to do on liberty than drink these days (or employ the services of a bar girl/working girl these days as well). The Navy is cracking down on that as well, though for good reasons (AIDS).

I was "Station Dito" in Subic from 87-89 and I can imagine at least 3/4 of the people stationed there would be under the gun at some time in their tours there for some alcohol related incident, myself included, if Subic was still a base of ours in todays Navy.

I was the recorder for three or four Captain's Mast cases just for DWI and several other Masts for things as not getting back to base before curfew (we had a brief period from late 87 - mid 88 when you had to be on base or off the streets by a certain time if you were authorized to reside off base), etc. caused by alcohol.

You can multiply that by a hundred for the entire personnel stationed at the Subic Bay Naval Base when I was there, along with several hundred other incidents by sailors or marines on liberty from ships stopping at Subic for a liberty visit prior to going on or coming back from a Westpac/IO deployment, just for the two year period when I was there.

We were a small command within Subic, averaging some 30 enlisted and 2 officer, along with a few American Civilian employees (tech reps) and approximately 20 Filipino Nationals employed by our command as well.

I can't imagine being stationed somewhere like Subic Bay in todays Navy and not allowed to "become overly intoxicated" or freely use the services of the bar girls. In today's Navy, if Subic were still a base of ours, you might as well weld the gates shut and allow no sailors off base period. Heck, the military REALLY frowns on one wanting to marry a foreign national as well these days. Make it like being stationed at GITMO or Diego Garcia and limit their tours there one or one and a half years, unaccompanied.
16 posted on 04/01/2006 5:25:31 PM PST by AmericaOne
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