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Breaking the Immigration Impasse -- Amnesty with Teeth
March 30, 2006 | HMV

Posted on 03/30/2006 10:33:10 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid

There is a remarkably simple solution to the impasse with immigration reform. It involves a balance of recognition and respect of United States laws, along with the need for a reasonable process for dealing with the illegal immigrants.

First of all, all illegals currently in the country would have to sign a written document stating that they had broken the laws of the United States by entering the country. Those who wish to stay on as guest workers would be placed on probation for a period of three years, during which time they would be granted status as "conditional" guest workers. They would be required to report their location to the INS annually, and any other violations of U. S. or state laws could result in loss of status and deportation.

Those who successfully completed their probationary period would become official guest workers. Those who wish to apply for citizenship would be eligible, however, those applying legally from outside the country (who have not immigrated illegally) would have priority over those who entered the country illegally.

All employers would require illegals working for them to apply for conditional guest worker status (along with the required probation period). There would be fines for both the illegals and the employers who fail to initiate the guest worker application process.

This approach offers a road to amnesty which recognizes that an illegality occurred, a probationary period was served, and that illegal immigrants are not placed ahead of applicants who apply legally.


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1 posted on 03/30/2006 10:33:11 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Or we could deport all of them and fine the bejeezus out of their employers.


2 posted on 03/30/2006 10:34:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
"Yes" to teeth...."no" to amnesty.Get them out! All of them! Black,white,brown,yellow...whatever color.

Out!

3 posted on 03/30/2006 10:37:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

"a reasonable process for dealing with the illegal immigrants"

the only acceptable process is deportation.

"First of all, all illegals currently in the country would have to sign a written document stating that they had broken the laws of the United States by entering the country."

How are you going to enforce this? "Excuse me Mr Illegal Alien, would you kindly sign this document? Wait a second, mister, why are you urinating on my document? I asked you for your signature ..."

"There would be fines for both the illegals and the employers who fail to initiate the guest worker application process."

How much of a fine. Currently, the fine for using a falsified social security card is $250,000. I wonder how many of those fines we have collected.


4 posted on 03/30/2006 10:37:24 AM PST by Disturbin
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To: ClearCase_guy

One problem with legalizing them and allowing more is the simple fact that it will always be easier to sneak in. Thus they will continue to come illegally.

Build a wall tall and wide and lets see some perp walks of company executives who lure them.


5 posted on 03/30/2006 10:38:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I like your idea.


6 posted on 03/30/2006 10:38:29 AM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded Crunchy Con, American Male (NRA))
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

My simple solution:

1. Make illegal presence in the United States a felony, to go into effect on a certain date.

2. Establish a guest worker program. Upon completion of work visa, visa holder must return home and reapply. Failure to do so is illegal presence in the United States (see #1).

3. Eliminate the anchor baby clause. (This will require a constitutional amendment.)


7 posted on 03/30/2006 10:38:48 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

I like it.


8 posted on 03/30/2006 10:39:53 AM PST by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Democratic Congressional control)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

We could also say if you are here illegally and get caught, you will never receive american citizenship.


9 posted on 03/30/2006 10:40:04 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Impasse=Lack of guts to do anything about the issue. Wake up, we have reasonable immigration laws on the books already--ENFORCE THE DAMNED LAWS for pete's sake.


10 posted on 03/30/2006 10:40:38 AM PST by brushcop (Mission Accomplished B-Co, 2/69 3d ID! God bless you and WELCOME HOME!)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

When you make "deals" that void our laws they've won.


11 posted on 03/30/2006 10:41:20 AM PST by dljordan
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

All of the amnesty proposals (I've not seen much else) address "the worker" and what they have to do to stay here. I don't see anything about the family and relatives of "the worker" who are here soaking up the good life. Will there be any requirements for them to meet? Will they have to become "workers" or go home? Or will they be granted amnesty without any conditions? If "the worker" becomes unable to work will he be granted unconditional amnesty or sent home?


12 posted on 03/30/2006 10:41:44 AM PST by FreePaul
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
Admit to the crime, fine them and their employers, put them on probation requiring monthly visits to the INS, do a backgorund check on them immediately ejecting those who have a record, immediately eject those who do not comply with all of the above, with no amnesty for the guest workers, requiring them all to go through the normal naturalization process in line with those already on that legal path...

...and do all of this AFTER the border is fixed, the fence built, and the pourous sieve of a border is closed so more cannot come. In the mean time, get aggressive about rounding up any illegals we can find presently and immediately deporting them so that when the time comes and the borders are fixed, those that remain will know that we mean business with this sort of guest worker program

13 posted on 03/30/2006 10:41:52 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid

Secure the borders/ports.

Offer illegals an opportunity to apply for legal residencence, from their nation of origin, if they pay a fine. If they don't pay, they work it off at the work house and then get shipped back.

They then get in line with everyone else, and if they have children born in America, they (if they paid the fine) get processed first.

From there on out, it's more of a Bracero type program that I'd go with, but far superior in it's ability to track and control the 'guests'.

See, simple really.


14 posted on 03/30/2006 10:42:44 AM PST by samcgwire ("I voted for President 'Better Than Kerry'")
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Amen...see my post 13.


15 posted on 03/30/2006 10:42:59 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Hillary'sMoralVoid
All employers would require illegals working for them to apply for conditional guest worker status
From their jail cells.
16 posted on 03/30/2006 10:43:19 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: ClearCase_guy
Or we could deport all of them and fine the bejeezus out of their employers.

Precisely.

17 posted on 03/30/2006 10:43:31 AM PST by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Out!

And stay out. You forgot the part about a wall/fence.
18 posted on 03/30/2006 10:43:48 AM PST by quantim (A gullible public is the best friend of a weak politician.)
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To: Disturbin
There would be fines for both the illegals and the employers who fail to initiate the guest worker application process

We need to be putting employer in prison for hiring illegals. They'll quit hiring illegals real quick. With no jobs to be had, they'll deport themselves.
19 posted on 03/30/2006 10:43:57 AM PST by JamesP81
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To: Jeff Head

A bit of prosecution goes a long ways.

Great post Jeff.


20 posted on 03/30/2006 10:44:12 AM PST by samcgwire ("I voted for President 'Better Than Kerry'")
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