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1 posted on 03/30/2006 7:41:05 AM PST by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Thank you for posting this.


2 posted on 05/05/2006 5:50:07 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SmithL
Using the ESA to prevent a private landowner from using his land is a direct violation of the 5th amendment. It is taking of private property without just compensation. The environmental nuts love to destroy the value of a private property with ESA, then snap it up at a fire sale price using money from leftist groups that is sometime matched with money taken from taxpayers to purchase "open space".
3 posted on 05/05/2006 7:53:43 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: SmithL; Carry_Okie; NormsRevenge; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; forester; FOG724; calcowgirl; marsh2; ..
Almost 65 years ago, the Senate ratified on a voice vote a treaty that Carry_Okie has all the details on, that made such an abomination as the endangered species act, along with all the other GovernMental EnvironMental madness possible!!!

It's a bad law, made possible by a bad treaty that keeps it from being out-right unconstitutional and both the bad law and the bad treaty should be repealed by Senators based on the oath they take as each is sworn in as a Senator to protect and defend our constitution!!!

8 posted on 05/05/2006 10:46:37 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Without consistent core conservatives in charge, the GOP is fast becoming the Gelded Old Party!!!)
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To: SmithL; SierraWasp; All
The greens have targeted Pombo this year as he is now enemy #1 since they squished DeLay. Please send Pombo a contribution soon if you can...
17 posted on 05/06/2006 6:35:00 AM PDT by tubebender (Tagline...I don't need no stinking tagline...)
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To: SmithL
Pombo's bill comes the closest to slamming the brakes on Agenda 21 transformations which would give people a chance to reassess what is happening under the NWO globalism plans.
20 posted on 05/06/2006 1:08:10 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: SmithL

The ridiculous ESA is being used in FL to prevent growth in the boating industry by declairing any "water area" a manatee zone even if manatees never go there.


21 posted on 05/06/2006 1:15:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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the key subcommittee is headed by Chafee, who is aligned more closely with environmentalists than Pombo.

Ah yes, Lincoln Chafee. His idea of open range is a public croquet lawn.

A property rights controversy is when you sublease a berth from your college chum and his third wife Muffy and they still want to retain the membership in the Marina's Sunday brunch club which you simply MUST be seen at.

24 posted on 05/06/2006 4:56:26 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: SmithL

Enviornmentalism is out of control. The real environmentalists are the hunters, the sportsman, and businesses, not the dirt-god worshipping freaks whose goal is to return civilization to that of prehistoric times.


26 posted on 05/06/2006 4:59:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (FR's most controversial FReeper)
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To: SmithL

The federal and State Endangered Species Acts have destroyed our local timber, mining and farming economies. Week before last, the Klamath National Forest gave a presentation to the Board of Supervisors where they did not even list timber harvest as a use of the National Forest. The legislation creating the Forests Reserves was intended for the purposes of a supply of wood products and protection of water sources for cities. They were NOT created for recreation, biodiversity, preservation or a quality "forest experience."

Suction dredge mining in our area has been virtually extinguished - the local Karuk tribe sued under the Dept, of Fish and Game under CESA to close it down.

Irrigated farming and ranching is rqeuired to come under an incidental take permit for endangered coho - exthorting an agreement to forgoe use of property rights by making uses that harass, harm, injure, kill or modify habitat a crime under the Act. They have made property usage revocable conditioned privilege rather than a right that can be freely exercised as long as it does not substantially harm the general public health and safety.

Now the State Water Resources Control Board is cutting another swath of property rights by claiming pre-1914 adjudicated water use rights can be taken without compensation for flows for coho and other cold water fish under the recent Robie decision.

Just last week, the North Coast water Quality Control Board gave us a presentation on its plan to further condition land use for its hydrologic impact on groundwater recharge, flooding, riparian areas and wetlands. This could pretty much replace local land use regulatory authorities by moving them under this appointed Board.

The public is not aware of the rights and freedoms we are losing hand over fist through environmental regulation such as FESA.


30 posted on 05/07/2006 9:25:57 AM PDT by marsh2
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To: SmithL

BTTT


31 posted on 05/07/2006 9:57:23 AM PDT by hattend
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