Just look for yourselves:
/sarc
Posted on 03/28/2006 2:18:36 PM PST by razorbak
The Roman Catholic Church, dozens of grass-roots coalitions and Spanish-language radio disc jockeys have helped fuel protests nationwide against congressional efforts to tackle illegal immigration....
The Catholic Church has played a key role in opposing legislation to restrict immigration and rallying protesters....
"As we've been able to reach more and more people, they're waking up to the ills of the proposals made to date and seeing the need to be vocal about the kinds of reforms that would be more acceptable," said Mark D. Franken, executive director of migration and refugee services for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops....
The bishops conference in May began "Justice for Immigrants," a campaign focused on activating a network of grass-roots movements against punitive immigration-reform legislation....
Mr. Franken said all the nation's 197 Catholic dioceses are in some way backing the campaign, with more than 70 being particularly active. Disseminating pamphlets and networking, community-level groups tied to the campaign are operating "in churches and everywhere they can gain access," he said.
(Excerpt) Read more at insider.washingtontimes.com ...
Todays Catholic Church is comprised or immigrants, senior citizens, and white collar/no collar types.
Just look for yourselves:
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I left myself 15 years ago. I had just about had it with the socialist doctrine being forced on us every week, when a good friend of mine suggested I attend her parish. So, I drove half way across town and met her for mass. After 30 minutes and as the 3rd special collection plate rolled by, while a visiting nun spewed from the few to the many at me I got up and left, haven't been back since.
I'm not in to crackpot statements. Anyone who opposes Biblical teaching can be considered to be the "anti-Christ". That would most certainly include Islam, catholicism, Buddhism, etc., etc. If the teachings of a religion are in conflict with the Bible, that religion is basically anti-Christ.
Agreed completely. So why, again, are you not a Catholic? (Particularly since you claim to support Holy Writ)
Agreed completely. So why, again, are you not a Catholic? (Particularly since you claim to support Holy Writ)
Whatever one thinks of the USCCB on immigration legislation, it is ---how shall I say? --- at least counterintuitive to argue that the Bishops are trying to increase their collections by siding with the lowest-income day-laborers, dishwashers and motel-bathroom-cleaners. Income-maximizing clergy are usually excoriated for siding with the rich, not with the poor.
1 Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,
Matthew 13:54 And coming to His home town He began teaching them in their synagogue, so that they became astonished, and said, "Where did this man get this wisdom, and these miraculous powers?
Matthew 13:55 "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary, and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
Matthew 13:56 "And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then did this man get all these things?"
First, the Bible says there is ONE mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus -- not the Pope, not Mary, not a priest.
Second, the doctrine that Mary had no other offspring is simply not true. The Greek language has specific words for brother, sister, cousin, etc. as do all languages. It clearly states he had brothers AND sisters (plural). Any other teaching is false doctrine. If in these two major tenets of catholicism they are in error, then they are in error about a LOT of things. No time to detail all of it.
It isn't correct to say THE Roman Catholic Church is supporting illegal immigrants.
It would be more accurate to say "part" of the Roman Catholic Church is doing this.
The American Bishops Conference has, at times, been known to pursue agendas that don't necessarily jibe with the Church as a whole. Even among the conference there is not unanimous support from all bishops on matters like this.
In other words...what is going on in the Church reflects the debate that is going on within the political parties and the rest of America. But when the cardinal from LA (who is known for dissenting views within the Church) spouts off, the press portrays it as if he is speaking for the Church as a whole.
Well, he doesn't, the pope does (along with the college of cardinals)
So far I haven't seen Pope Benedict weigh in on this matter, and until he does then we need to consider all these "opinions" from various bishops with a grain of salt.
Wow, I'm glad to hear that! Years ago I heard a sermon --- one sermon --- that changed my life. It's amazing how effective a good, teaching priest can be. Doesn't have to be flashy eloquence (although I can appreicate eloquence, too.) But just heartfelt, thoughtful, challenging, Christ-loving: you can think about it for literally years later. It is like water in the desert.
Interesting. Thanks for posting.
I wasn't trying to look good. I was just responding to your ridiculous comment that "thinking" Catholics don't give money to the church. I am from the KC/St. Joseph Diocese. While not exactly the most conservative area, the Church I attend is still deserving of whatever I can give. Blanket statements about Catholics really bug me. There is so much more to the Church than a few cases of homosexual priests abusing their power.
Those "big shots" generally don't have a lot of material possessions. Why does their clothing bother you? It's not like they are out shopping for the latest styles at expensive department stores. I'm guessing they don't need a walk-in closet for their clothing. They don't wake up in the morning and struggle over what pair of black pants to wear that day or what robe will be the most flattering. It's a uniform.
Either show some proof or take off the tinfoil. That statement is ridiculous. No ogranization in the world has fought against abortion more than the Catholic Church.
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That's true. And yet, Christ gave His apostles the power to forgive sins in His name. Go figure, they were acting as His priests. The horror!
"The Greek language has specific words for brother, sister, cousin, etc. as do all languages. It clearly states he had brothers AND sisters (plural)."
This has been addressed time and again on FR. If you fail to accept it, that's on your head. Hint, Jesus wasn't speaking Greek, try Aramaic.
Clones.
Don't get off on the "priest-molester" jag, though. Something like 75% of the abuse occurred between 1965 and 1980, and at that time, the Bishops (like everybody else, unfortunately) were strongly influenced by the therapeutic approach. In practice, that meant you sent the priest off to a counseling-and-coping place run by psychologists, you brought him back into parish work once the shrinks said he was under control, you paid the victims so they could get therapy too, and (supposedly) nobody further traumatized or scandalized by a court appearance.
That was the theory; it didn't work; it ballooned out into a huge cover-up and pay-off arangement with multiple victims, and finally the muckraking press caught up with it and exploited the story as a uniquely Catholic problem.
A uniquely Catholic problem it is not. According to WorldNetDaily (David Kupelian)a major 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education found that nearly 10 percent of U.S. public school students have been targeted with unwanted sexual attention by school employees. Titled "Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of Existing Literature," the report says the mistreatment of students ranges from sexual comments to rape. In fact, says the study's author Charol Shakeshaft, professor of educational administration at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., the scope of the school-sex problem appears to far exceed the clergy-abuse scandal that has recently rocked the Roman Catholic Church.
Comparing the incidence of sexual misconduct in schools with the Catholic Church scandal, Shakeshaft notes that a recent study by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops concluded 10,667 young people were sexually mistreated by priests between 1950 and 2002.
In contrast, she extrapolates from a national survey conducted for the American Association of 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a public school employee between 1991 and 2000. The figures suggest "the physical sexual abuse of students in public schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests," said Shakeshaft, according to Education Week.
You know we must eliminate you for publicly disclosing Vatican secrets don't you? Slow and painful death..... tied up.... forced to watch Elvis impersonators.... and Barbara Streisand .....
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