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(Drivers) License checks fueling debate (illegal aliens protest)
longmontfyi ^ | Publish Date: 3/13/2006 | Ben Ready

Posted on 03/13/2006 1:28:47 PM PST by dennisw

LONGMONT — A state effort to reconcile discrepancies between driver’s license information and Social Security information already has led to the cancellation of 2,000 Colorado licenses.

Tens of thousands more Coloradans won’t be able to renew their licenses until they fix their records.

Over the past two years and in batches, the DMV has run more than 4 million state licenses in its database against Social Security Administration data. In January, the DMV started the enforcement stage, sending multiple warning letters to 53,000 state residents.

While Department of Motor Vehicles and Department of Revenue officials maintain that the enforcement is meant to “clean up databases” and prevent identity theft, local Hispanic advocacy leaders believe the move is no more than a punitive measure to make life difficult for undocumented immigrants.

“Where is it helping the people of Colorado to have people driving without driver’s licenses?” said Rusty Denham, a caseworker for Centro Amistad in Boulder. “It’s crazy to pretend. It’s about people who have the unrealistic expectation that, by being mean, they’ll make people go back to Mexico.”

In the past two months, Denham and others at Centro Amistad have translated and explained the DMV letters to dozens of immigrants. El Comité, a Longmont-based Hispanic advocacy organization, also has handled numerous requests for advice from residents confused by the letters.

The DMV mailed out two kinds of letters. Fifty thousand people — those whose names or birthdays on their licenses didn’t match their Social Security information — were tagged as “Code 5” and told that if they don’t clear up the problem, they won’t be able to renew their license once it expires.

The “more serious” cases were classified as “Code 2.” Three thousand residents — those who provided “impossible” Social Security numbers that have never been issued — were told in letters they had 30 days to fix their problems or their licenses would be canceled.

Some 2,000 Coloradans have missed the deadline for fixing problems cited by the DMV and are now driving on invalid licenses.

M. Michael Cooke — director of the Colorado Department of Revenue, which controls the DMV — said a vast majority of the 53,000 cases come from typing errors, name changes and other easy-to-fix clerical mistakes.

“This is not about immigration issues only,” Cooke said, “but about the validity of these documents.”

In most cases, those who still need to clear their records have to bring a state-certified birth certificate, their Social Security card or another document that establishes legal residency, and a driver’s license to a DMV licensing office.

“Though it’s an inconvenience for citizens to correct (their licenses or Social Security information), it will benefit them in the end when it comes to identity security,” Cooke said.

But what will happen to the 2,000 people who’ve lost their licenses or the thousands more who won’t likely be able to renew their current licenses?

AAA Foundation researchers say it’s hard to know how many unlicensed drivers are on the roads, but according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, unlicensed drivers are almost five times more likely to be in a fatal crash.

“This action will only make Colorado roads less safe,” said Laurel Herndon, director of the Immigrant Legal Center of Boulder County. She added that undocumented immigrants denied valid driver’s licenses will likely resort to using fake IDs, making life harder on police.

“The DMV is wasting state time and resources to punish (undocumented) people who are trying to support their families,” Herndon said, “and they’re putting people on the road at greater risk, in addition to wasting our money.”

But Cooke says that since the enactment of a 2002 state law, the DMV has issued licenses only to people who can prove lawful presence in the country. How the state should handle the thousands of illegal immigrants who drive without licenses is an issue for law enforcement, she said.

Denham said that though the computers that generated the 53,000 letters couldn’t discriminate against Hispanics, the state employees who programmed those computers may have.

“It is disproportionately affecting Latinos and people from other countries because our bureaucrats don’t know what to do with names from other countries,” Denham said.

A Hispanic name like Maria Elena Garcia de Gomez, for example, wouldn’t fit into the three fields for first, middle and last names in the DMV’s programs, Denham said. One government employee changes the name one way when entering it into a database, another employee at a different agency changes it another way, and the resident is inconvenienced at best, or worse, runs the risk of losing her license if she can’t produce her original birth certificate, Denham said.

“In my view, it’s something that’s institutional racism,” Denham said. “Because we’re not familiar with that, we say, ‘Who cares? It’s a Spanish name.’”

Cooke said the Department of Revenue, not state lawmakers, came up with the idea to cross-check the databases, but she said claims of discrimination are ridiculous.

“I don’t see that there is any potential for targeting at all,” Cooke said. “It is our job to issue these documents to make sure (drivers) are competent, of age and legally present. Once they meet those requirements, we issue. If there is an individual driving without it, that’s unlawful.”


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1 posted on 03/13/2006 1:28:49 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
A state effort to reconcile discrepancies between driver’s license information and Social Security information already has led to the cancellation of 2,000 Colorado licenses.

GOOD. Maybe it'll help clean up the voters' rolls, too.

2 posted on 03/13/2006 1:32:53 PM PST by American Quilter
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"...local Hispanic advocacy leaders believe the move is no more than a punitive measure to make life difficult for undocumented immigrants"

It damn sure better be!!!

3 posted on 03/13/2006 1:33:27 PM PST by Niteranger68 ("Only 4 out of 3 Democrats actually vote.")
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To: dennisw

Basicly ...... "We haven't had to obey the laws up to now, so why change anything? You must be racist!!" Next thing you know, the dang bank robbers and hold up guys will be protesting.


4 posted on 03/13/2006 1:34:43 PM PST by right right
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To: dennisw

Its not racist, but rather a way of singling out the illegals that tend to LIE on their applications for employment, driver's licenses, and any other paperwork. They can PAY fines and risk JAIL to continue this activity, as it is an integral part of living ILLEGALLY in Colorado.


5 posted on 03/13/2006 1:37:21 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: American Quilter
53,000 out of 4 million isn't as many as I would have thought. Here in Georgia we are supposed to have 800,000 illegals.

Well maybe we are not supposed to have them but we do.
6 posted on 03/13/2006 1:37:59 PM PST by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: gondramB
53,000 out of 4 million isn't as many as I would have thought.

Maybe those are just the ones uncovered by this search.

7 posted on 03/13/2006 1:39:54 PM PST by American Quilter
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To: dennisw
“Where is it helping the people of Colorado to have people driving without driver’s licenses?”

Ah the irony and the rub. You AREN'T the people of CO. So scram.

8 posted on 03/13/2006 1:40:11 PM PST by doodad
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To: dennisw
While Department of Motor Vehicles and Department of Revenue officials maintain that the enforcement is meant to "clean up databases" and prevent identity theft, local Hispanic advocacy leaders believe the move is no more than a punitive measure to make life difficult for undocumented immigrants.

Those poor persecuted undocumented immigrants just can't seem to get a break.

"Where is it helping the people of Colorado to have people driving without driver's licenses?" said Rusty Denham, a caseworker for Centro Amistad in Boulder. "It's crazy to pretend. It's about people who have the unrealistic expectation that, by being mean, they'll make people go back to Mexico."

Oops, the jig is up.

9 posted on 03/13/2006 1:41:37 PM PST by DumpsterDiver
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To: RacerF150
local Hispanic advocacy leaders believe the move is no more than a punitive measure to make life difficult for undocumented immigrants

This also demonstrates a high degree of narcissism. The law is the law, but somehow it's all about them.

10 posted on 03/13/2006 1:42:37 PM PST by the anti-liberal (Hey, Al Qaeda: Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent)
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To: dennisw

"undocumented immigrants denied valid driver’s licenses will likely resort to using fake IDs, making life harder on police."
SHOULD READ:
"illegal immigrants are scumbags because they will resort to many other covert and illegal strategies to stay in Colorado ILLEGALLY, but will obey laws when it comes to raising their families." That's not racist lefty?


11 posted on 03/13/2006 1:43:01 PM PST by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: dennisw
AAA Foundation researchers say it’s hard to know how many unlicensed drivers are on the roads, but according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, unlicensed drivers are almost five times more likely to be in a fatal crash.

1. no link was given to back up this statement and I went to the Bureau of Justice Statistics website and couldn't find anything useful searching for unlicensed driver and fatal.

2. Are we expected to believe that by giving an illegal a driver's license he immediately becomes five times safer?

3. Even if the statistic is true, how much of that is skewed by 15 year old idiots taking a drive before they are licensed or habitual drunks who have had their licenses taken from them but drive anyway?

12 posted on 03/13/2006 1:44:06 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The tree of liberty is getting awfully parched.)
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To: dennisw
"....local Hispanic advocacy leaders believe the move is no more than a punitive measure to make life difficult for undocumented immigrants."

Man! those Hispanic advocacy leaders are smart fellers to have figured that out!

13 posted on 03/13/2006 1:45:03 PM PST by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: dennisw

If it's that bad in Colorado can you imagine here in CA?


14 posted on 03/13/2006 1:47:06 PM PST by FOG724 (Arnold is not a Republican)
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To: dennisw
“This action will only make Colorado roads less safe,” said Laurel Herndon, director of the Immigrant Legal Center of Boulder County.

Right. Apparently, the illegals are threatening to drive like maniacs, killing and maiming at every opportunity unless and until they are given drivers licenses. Then they'll be DMV model drivers all the time.

15 posted on 03/13/2006 1:59:00 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: dennisw

What are the illegals whining about? If they were in their own country there would be no checks of drivers licenses would there?


16 posted on 03/13/2006 2:00:23 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: dennisw
She added that undocumented immigrants denied valid driver’s licenses will likely resort to using fake IDs, making life harder on police.

This makes sense... We should eliminate ALL official documents and just let everyone make their own licenses, passports, birth certificates, etc. using Print Shop Deluxe...

</sarcasm*>

17 posted on 03/13/2006 2:02:52 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: azhenfud
"....local Hispanic advocacy leaders believe the move is no more than a punitive measure to make life difficult for undocumented immigrants."

And I am pretty sure that banks have safes "to make life difficut for" bank robbers...

18 posted on 03/13/2006 2:07:30 PM PST by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: dennisw
Hispanic advocacy leaders believe the move is no more than a punitive measure to make life difficult for undocumented immigrants

By extension, the law is a measure to make life difficult for criminals I suppose? There is no violin small enough.
19 posted on 03/13/2006 2:20:03 PM PST by Pookee
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To: dennisw
AAA Foundation researchers say... unlicensed drivers are almost five times more likely to be in a fatal crash.

So if we just give everybody licences, the accident rate will drop...

20 posted on 03/13/2006 2:57:13 PM PST by Fudd
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