Posted on 03/08/2006 8:35:57 AM PST by Dark Skies
Most people have already heard about the NCU Chapel Hill incident where a Muslim student drove a vehicle into a crowd. His reason was to avenge the way Americans are treating Muslims. Here is a guy who was raised here for the most part, using all of our freedoms and education, and in the future would have had a lucrative career in his chosen field. And due to his religious beliefs, he threw it all away to gain whatever it is he thought he was getting by attacking innocent people.
This is the state of mind most Liberals and much of our government does not understand yet. Most liberals tend towards the atheistic side and have little understanding of religious matters to begin with. Most politicians in my thinking have already sold their souls for power and money and until religious actions affect their positions and assets, they will not understand either.
What the government and media have not yet grasped is the ideology that continually drives violence within Islam. They are in a frame of mind that will choose Islam over all things. Like the Borg in the Star Trek series, they walk in one mind, and in one agenda with the end result being that all others will be assimilated and eventually the entire universe will become as they are. Consuming all technology and resources until the final conquest of all civilizations. But there is one distinct difference here. Even in Star Trek, the Borg were easily identified, and never used the media or organizations to slip in among their enemies and use propaganda to sway public opinion before striking. They were up front and honest with their intentions.
With Islam it is not so easy, due to the organized way they try to show the world they are peaceful and desire to live in peace with all men. They are taught from Mohammed himself to lie if need be in order to create a false sense of security before they kill or subdue innocent targets.
They walk in our midst for years, as did this student with smiles on their faces and talking to people over the years about the peaceful ways of Islam. They eat with us, accept our hospitality, play with our children, and live a fairly normal life. Until the day they decide to attack, we see them as normal citizens happy to be living free of the Islamic laws that oppressed them or their parents before they moved. And a day comes when something that is said or done triggers the impulse in them as a memory can trigger an ex-soldier, and the results are almost always deadly. And even if the results are not, the intentions most certainly are. Like soldiers in combat, Muslims have a trigger that can be tripped by various reasons. They are taught in the Koran and Hadiths that Islam and Mohammed are to be protected and thrust upon humanity at all costs. Life means nothing if it is a non-Muslim life in their thinking.
The Muslims who claim these ideologies are spread through the mass poverty and oppression of Muslims never seem to take into account that most terrorists are college educated, and many in Western institutions. Many come from wealthy families as Bin Laden, and some were doctors such as Ayman al-Zawahiri. The young Muslim who rammed his vehicle into a crowd had a degree in Psychology. He had the means to go to college, and he had the higher education to plan his attack. So I do not buy into this Muslim theory that these people attack due to poverty or ignorance.
And here we are in America , living next door to people who have shown the ability and will to attack at any time for whatever reason they deem necessary. How can we continue to trust a mindset that has shown time and again their intention to destroy what we have? I see CAIR always trying to show how we in America discriminate against Muslims, and that only a few of them act like this. Even if CAIR is correct, and I disagree with them, it takes only a few to cause massive damage as seen in NYC on 9-11, and even now in this incident. We saw a Muslim soldier throw a grenade into a tent in Iraq because he was trying to protect Muslims. His oath to America to protect this nation and fight for its ideals was a lie. His loyalty to Islam was much stronger than his loyalty to the nation he lived in and fought for. And so it is with most Muslims, if not all in my thinking. I would dare say that all Muslims would eventually turn on those around them if the circumstances were right. And even if I am wrong, how can we tell the difference? Even the Muslims who decry some of these acts cannot tell who is who. They worship with them, pray with them, eat with them, and claim they have no clue as to who these people are. Yet when we begin looking closer, they cry discrimination and profiling.
Islam has an agenda, whether the government and media ignore that fact. They desire the extermination of the Jews, and the rest of the world after that. They think Islam is truly the last message of their god to all humanity, even if it condones lying and murder to further the cause. Even the Nazis wore uniforms and identified themselves to the world when they set out for conquest. But Muslims assimilate into society and no one knows if or when they will attack. But their goal is conquest, no doubt about that. It is not simply another religion trying to proselyte. It is an evil that intends to conquer at all costs, with no conscience as to how and who they kill to obtain it.
Though many may not subscribe to this consciously, I believe the Muslim Trigger can be tripped at anytime for almost any reason. They send their own children into crowded places with bombs strapped to them, showing the world that not even their own flesh and blood are above the goals of Mohammed. They are soaked with ideas of Paradise that allow them sexual excesses not allowed here on Earth. And I have always wondered, how can Allah despise sex here, but surround himself with it in Paradise ? But Muslims believe this to the point they will send their own to murder and rejoice after the evil is done.
Currently it is not PC to profile Muslims. Europe and North America have once again extended their hand to these Mohammedans and the media extols the virtues of Islam while intentionally ignoring the global violence perpetrated by these same people. And I begin to fear for my nation and my culture. History has always shown that when governments fail, people take matters into their own hands. And we have been a patient nation in this respect. But I have to wonder, with all of the militias, and armed citizens, how much longer this patience will last until ordinary people begin to mimic the actions of Muslims worldwide here on our own soil, and turn the tables.
And Muslims need to know this, that to us Islam is a cult, a religion, and a culture alien to our own. Islam is not compatible with the freedoms and regard for life that is evident to the West.
If the wolves in your flock are not weeded out, the Infidels may do your gardening for you.
I don't know.
Maybe he just read a few threads on FR ;) ;) ;)
I'd go for neutron bombing the entire islamic world to be truthful. We'll be forced to do it eventually, might as well get it over with. (Of course we need to give them one last chance to make their peace with God and accept Jesus as their Savior first. Say about 1 week of air dropped and broadcast notification)
Theodore Dalrymple wrote an excellent article in National Review (I haven't been able to find a link to it) in which he stated that the Muslim extremists "...are like the inhabitants of our ghettoes who demand something that they call "respect", and which they extort by fear for lack of any other means by which to earn it."
He continues: "The Muslim extremists know perfectly well that the West does not respect them, and that the only way they can cut a figure in the world is by terror. Technologically, scientifically, artistically, philosophically, economically they are nullities: but they know how to be vicious, and that makes up for every other defect. If the world will not listen to their tedious religiose lucubrations, it will at least pay heed to their bloodcurdling threats."
That's a refreshing story!
What was that incident with a mooslim and bomb at an Ohio State game last year? I remember something, but it never made big news.
"Personally, I believe that Islam is a hollow core for people to build their lives on, but the hateful act by a young rebel is not unique to Islamic culture."
True, and this kind of attack will become more common by individual Muslims going "postal", as Muslims they will do it in the name of Allah (may piss be upon him), while in many cases it will actually be the old reasons, lost job, broken marriage etc.. Since we are at war with Islam, it may be a bit much to expect everybody to look at each individual example for any explanation other than Islam.
Hey, with that undergrad double major, he was a prime candidate for any American law school. The foreign Muslim ethnic part would give him double bonus points before the admissions committee.
Becoming a lawyer, he could have served his religion by inflicting immeasurable pain on Americans and American society via baseless tort suits or going into government and writing laws and rules. The car suicide deal was too quick and only hurt a few of us.
"... as muslims they will do it in the name of allah (may piss be upon him)"
That's too funny! By the way, hope you don't mind corrected capitalization, I refuse to capitalize anything to do with islam.
This guy was clearly working alone. And I would agree that his real motive wasn't islam... it was the money spent, or not finding a girlfriend, or his latent homosexuality... or whatever.
So now the deeper question. If this animal were raised in a real religion, would he have popped in the same manner? Does the violent nature and disgusting teaching of the mohammedans give the extra push needed for a desperate soul to act out? An earlier poster stated that according to the koran, jihad is the only way to be absolved of all past sins.
My opinion is that islam is the gasoline on the fire of wounded souls.
You're kidding right? This is exactly Islamic Terrorism. The Islamic cult is like a cancer. It is evil and is driven by a false doctrine called the Koran. The Koran is designed to first provide the hook by misleading it's followers and converts into believing it's a religion of peace. Once the hook has been taken they know who to turn into a recruiter, suicide bomber, or whatever they need.
The Imams are very well organized and on a larger scale will inflitrate a community, town, state and country very skillfully. They identify the weak or conflictive areas of the civilization, social structures and wherever they can provoke a conflict. They then focus on those areas. Once enough control and power has been established or followers have been brainwashed, they are in a position to follow the Koran and present to the infected civilization they have invaded, the three choices. These are either to convert, subjugate, pay money or experience a Jihad. The reasons are usually made up or provoked themselves to give excuses for their violence.
There are many of the Muslims that are sleeper cells, individuals that are brainwashed and actually believe the crap in the Koran, and will turn in a minute. They are either pushed by email, letters from home, paid, or just by themselves reflect back on the crap they were fed as a child.....
http://stream.realimpact.net/rihurl.ram?file=realimpact/memri/memri_10-30-02_01.rm
http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?
The clips are true despiction no matter who presents them, they aren't actors doing this. I'll spare you the links to the beheadings. It's not in good taste for this site.....
It was a "form" of Islamic terrorism as admitted to by the actual driver. He said nothing about any double degree or his future working at McDonalds' you have no idea what he was thinking nor even who he was. It was just another example of the Islamic trend.
" ... you have no idea what he was thinking nor even who he was. It was just another example of the islamic trend."
Thank you. I can see your conviction in your words. I am with you. We need more people to get educated and understand this threat or we will be lost. This enemy is not stupid. They are clever, and committed.
Taking a soft view of islam, or mitigating acts of it's followers is a sure path to one day kneeling on a prayer rug. If not us, our children, and grandchildren.
But his anger is misdirected, don't you think. If he wanted to avenge the deaths of Muslims the world over, he should have rammed his car into a bunch of muslims, cause over the last 20 to 30 years it has been an on-going muslim-on-muslim slaughter. Saddam alone is responsible for the deaths of more than two million muslims. Then Darfur comes to mind, Hamah in Syria, King Hussain of Jordan quelling the Palestinin uprising, Palestinians killing each other and other factions with abandon in Lebanon, current slaughter of Iraqis by terrorists, islamists killing people in Algeria, etc., etc. All in all, millions of muslims have been killed by other muslims over the years, so why punishing a bunch of American kids for the crimes they have not committed. Those people have twisted twisted minds.
" Does the violent nature and disgusting teaching of the mohammedans give the extra push needed for a desperate soul to act out?"
I think it does, mohhamaheads going out in a blaze of glory will become a new element in America in years to come, we will simply get used to it, and fight to minimize the reductions in personal freedoms that we took for granted before multiculturalism overtook our country.
Most of the cousin-marrying occurs because the family is trying to keep property out of the hands of outsiders. Muslim men are permitted to marry Christian women (especially blonde-haired, blue-eyed women, it seems) but muslim women must marry only muslim men.
90% (an educated guess...), of Americans have no idea about the true nature of Islam. Even the "moderate" (termed used loosely) are victims due to their association with Infidels. The penalty for a Muslim to convert to Christianity is death or severe trama........
We have some work ahead...and most is being politically incorrect to the max......
Besides Blogs, any suggestions......:)
Hank, Jr., sang about this very phenomena in 'Attitude Adjustment'.:-)
Bump for the truth.
Does the site, Faithfreedom, get a good # of hits?
"Besides Blogs, any suggestions......:)"
No. I wish I did. I try to educate those around me informally. Part of the problem is people tend to look at me like I'm a militia man, (a la Ruby Ridge).
The libs have also done their ground work to make this, (educating people about the evils of islam), a dangerous proposition.
Let's say you publish a factual newsletter that's uncomplimentary to muslims. You could lose your job because you don't celebrate diversity. You could be hauled into court for hate crimes, (just the need to defend yourself would be expensive).
Not to mention, the physical threats from muslims in America.
People don't understand how serious the threat is from islam. Just consider the newsletter scenario. The sad thing is, most Americans don't care, they just want to know who's going to win American idol.
We get the government we deserve. Maybe we're going to get the invasion we deserve?
I think so. I read it regularly. It is run by ex-muslims and is quite authoritative on the subject of islam.
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