Posted on 03/06/2006 8:13:08 PM PST by n-tres-ted
Which issue do you think Republicans should focus on to keep control of the House?
Ping for the Boortz House issues poll results.
Pushing the fairtax is a great idea if you want to loose the election. If you want to win the election, concentrate on cutting spending and getting the budget balanced. Otherwise the GOP will soon be the minority party.
Who voted on this poll? The fair tax is most certainly not the best way to ensure a republican majority after the 2006 midterm.
Who voted on this poll? The fair tax is most certainly not the best way to ensure a republican majority after the 2006 midterm.
What is?
My choice stop illegal immigration followed by implementing the Fair Tax then Social Security reform/elimination..they are all intertwined...
Boortz listeners and his book buyers...otherwise no one really knows who he is.
Well, then, you better read the book and vote on it, cause it is the most important issue facing us at this time.
So instead, it's WAR ON TERROR, WAR ON TERROR, WAR ON TERROR.
Then why haven't Republicans done this since 1994 in Congress and since 2000 while controlling the White House and both the Senate and House?
Sorry, control of White House since 2001.
"Then why haven't Republicans done this since 1994 in Congress and since 2000 while controlling the White House and both the Senate and House?"
I can't really answer than without taking the tone of the thread negative about the administration and the party. So let's just say they need to a whole lot better on spending and immigration.
Well, then, you better read the bookI could have wrote the book but I refuse to lie.
If anyone would like to be added to this ping list let me know.
John Linder in the House(HR25) & Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25) offer a comprehensive bill to kill all income and SS/Medicare payroll taxes outright and replace them with with a national retail sales tax administered by the states.
H.R.25,S.25
A bill to promote freedom, fairness, and economic opportunity by repealing the income tax and other taxes, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, and enacting a national retail sales tax to be administered primarily by the States.Refer for additional information:
I'd rather work on things that have a chance of success - like controlling immigration and lowering the budget deficit.
mmm, how many decades more do you figure it will take, with half of the electorate believing in the toothfairy?
The Honorable James DeMint (R-SC)
United States House of Representatives
APRIL 5, 2001
- "There has been a shift in the relationship between individuals and government, he argues, such that fewer and fewer are paying taxes at the same time that more and more are receiving increasingly generous benefits. If it becomes the case that most voters do not bear a financial burden for this largess, then there will be little to restrain--and significant political incentives to encourage--the continued growth of government.
"It's like me in the restaurant: What do I care about extravagance if you're footing the bill?"
--- Walter Williams
Until you address the roots of a problem, there will be no change in how Congress operates.
The individual income tax return that captures everyone's attention each April, is nothing more an accounting sheet the government cons individuals, held at ransom, into filling out. It puts a blinder on the eyes of the voter, and totally distorts their perceptions as to the real impact of taxation in their lives.
"As a matter of fact, what the income tax does and this is the debate that I think we always try to get into in order to let you and him fight, see and the people of this country are led down a path where the actual control of their resources, which in the end is the control over their will, is handed off to the government." . . . "The government then manipulates that will in order to destroy the freedom of our electoral system through the income tax structure, and we call the resulting slavery a free system." "In point of fact, it is not as the founders understood, and the only way to restore real freedom is to give people back control over the income that they earn so that they wont, at the voting booth and in other phony issues, be subject to that manipulation." |
To remove perception of the tax burdens of the individual, is to remove the goad which assures accountability of government to the electorate. Federal tax rates are high and government grows ever larger because a majority of the electorate do not perceive proportionately the burden their demand for largesse imposes on the minority of citizens.
The siren call for representation without taxation is the formula that got us where we are at today. The ability to hide or disguise taxation from the view of large sectors of the electorate allows the Congress to get away with the creation of the evergrowing monster that it fosters.
Liberty and freedom have a price, responsibility. If the perception of burden laid by government is interfered with or avoided there are no brakes on the growth of government, the ultimate result is the end of freedom through creeping socialism.
And it makes no difference as to which party is in control:
Bush touts relief as tax day looms
Another 3.9 million Americans will have their income tax liability completely eliminated, officials said.
That's 3.9 million Americans more added to the spending constituency of 70% of the public clamoring for more from government, figuring someone else foots the bill.
From, Effective Federal Tax Rates 1979-2001
Effective Individual Federal Income Tax Rate (Percent of gross family income) | ||||||||||||
Income Category | 1979 | 1981 | 1983 | 1985 | 1987 | 1989 | 1991 | 1993 | 1995 | 1997 |
1999 |
2001 |
Lowest Quintile | 0.0 | 0.5 | 0.4 | 0.5 | -0.6 | -1.6 | -1.6 | -2.3 | -4.4 | -5.2 | -5.2 | -5.6 |
Second Quintile | 4.1 | 4.8 | 3.8 | 4.0 | 3.2 | 2.9 | 2.9 | 2.3 | 2.0 | 1.8 | 1.7 | 0.3 |
Middle Quintile | 7.5 | 8.3 | 6.7 | 6.6 | 5.8 | 6.0 | 5.8 | 5.4 | 5.3 | 5.6 | 5.0 | 3.8 |
"mmm, how many decades more do you figure it will take, with half of the electorate believing in the toothfairy?"
If Bill Clinton could submit a balanced budget you would think a Republican President will be able to one day also.
no one should comment on this unless they have thoroughly researched just what the Fair Tax will do -
I can understand why the Kennedy's, Kerry's, the gods in Washington and other millionaires wont like it - they will, for the first time, pay their "Fair Share" - and even illegal immigrants will have to pay...and everyone else. No more need for "under the table: -
And yet, those who are not in the upper echelons of wealth will yet find much more money in their pockets to spend...
Small business would boom - consumers would have more to spend - and more would go to Washington at the same time...but no more IRS for bullying, blackmailing, worrying about - no more April 15th.
Unless you have read it through and studied it - don't dismiss it out of hand. You may be cutting your own throat...
the Fair Tax could give this country the greatest freedom we've ever had - and make the bubble heads in Washington truly representatives, not the gods they think they are.
http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/ftax.html
This is the greatest chanch for true freedom we have ever had. People tend to knee jerk object when they hear "National Sales TAx."
Unless you are a Kennedy or Kerry millionaire, (who will no longer have loopholes to hide in )you are going to have a lot more money in your pocket - and never have to worry about April 15th again.
It truly is a FAIR tax - ,
We need to educate ourselves on this -
This is particularly good for small business and self-employed,,,
If Bill Clinton could submit a balanced budget
Too bad the federal debt just kept growing throughout Clinton's term. Balance budgets don't occur when over half the spending is not counted into the balance.
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/deficit-trusts.htm
Total Federal Government debt at end FY 2005 was $7.9 trillion, according to the.Federal Debt Report. Of that total, according to the Treasury Dept., $3.3 trillion was owed to trust funds, because the general government siphoned-off all surpluses that should have been kept in those trust fund accounts for specific use - - like employee and senior pensions. After siphoning off trust funds for other uses they placed non-marketable IOUs in the trust accounts instead of marketable assets - - with no budget to pay-back the trust funds. Trust funds include many different special trust accounts: such as the social security trust fund, the federal employee retirement fund, federal hospital trust fund, railroad retirement fund, military retirement fund, employee life insurance fund, etc. The practice of siphoning-off trust fund surpluses to spend on non-trust stuff is a way of camouflaging general government deficit spending, making it appear to be in surplus when it's really in deficit - - - or making it appear that a huge deficit is just a modest deficit. Politicians like this practice, but such is dangerous to the financial health of future retirees and our young generation - - and such undermines citizen trust in government.. Note the left chart showing exploding debt owed to trust funds - - an increase of $2.4 trillion during the past 14 years - - or 340% higher. After bragging in the late 1990s about budget surpluses, when in fact the general government was in deficit (not surplus) despite the highest tax revenue share of the economy in peace-time history, we know they were claiming trust fund surpluses as their own. They were understating their claimed deficits by mixing in surpluses of trust funds. |
The only way to control an out of control budget is through spending cuts and smaller government, didn't see any of either condition under Clinton or anyone prior going back many decades.
you would think a Republican President will be able to one day also.
Until the American electorate from botton of the income scale to the top becomes aware of the real burdens of ever growing govenment largess, figure on same ole story:
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/piechart.htm
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