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Franchisees Tell Cautionary Tale Of Quiznos' Red-Hot Expansion
The Tampa Tribune ^ | Mar 1, 2006 | MICHAEL SASSO

Posted on 03/01/2006 6:24:13 AM PST by Sam's Army

TAMPA - Anyone watching local cable TV recently may have noticed a curious infomercial.

A tall, handsome spokesman was trumpeting the rewards of owning a Quiznos Sub franchise. Be your own boss, the pitchman kept reiterating. Set your own schedule. Enjoy independence as a business owner.

Denver-based Quiznos is following up its infomercial with a series of seminars at Tampa Bay area hotels this week, hoping to interest potential franchise owners.

But behind the scenes, there is turmoil among some Quiznos franchisees here and across North America.

According to a Tampa Tribune analysis, 80 percent of Quiznos restaurants in Hillsborough and Pinellas counties have changed hands or closed since January 2003. Meanwhile, Quiznos has been sued by dozens of franchisees in the United States and Canada who plunked down a $25,000 franchisee fee but were unable to find a suitable restaurant location.

How all this will affect Quiznos, which touts itself as one of America's fastest-growing restaurant chains, is an open question. Can it continue its blistering expansion pace even while many of its franchisees are upset?

A case in point is Willie Zinnerman of Valrico, who sold his Temple Terrace Quiznos restaurant two years ago and closed his Tampa store on Boy Scout Boulevard.

Zinnerman fled the Quiznos chain because of what he calls its high food costs and the way it has saturated the market with restaurants.

"With Quiznos, no matter how much money you make, you barely skim by and break even," Zinnerman said.

Chances are, the only thing you have heard or read about Quiznos is its amazing growth rate. Ron Paul, a restaurant industry consultant for Technomic Inc. in Chicago, said Quiznos opened more than 1,000 stores in 2004, the most recent year for which he had statistics. Quiznos stores are popping up all over the Bay area, too.

Pace Of Turnover Nearly As Quick Three years ago there were 15 Quiznos restaurants in Hillsborough, Pinellas and Pasco counties, according to Quiznos' 2003 "Uniform Franchise Offering Circular," a disclosure statement for franchisees. Today, there are 35 Quiznos restaurants open in the three counties, Quiznos spokeswoman Bonnie Warschauer said in an e-mail interview.

Its expansion pace has generated buzz in the franchising world. Entrepreneur magazine, for example, rates it No. 2 on its Top 10 franchises for 2006. The ranking takes into account growth rate and financial strength but does not factor in franchisee satisfaction, the magazine notes.

(Quiznos, a privately held company, also has generated headlines recently by putting itself up for sale.)

This week, the Tribune wanted to know how many of the 15 local franchisees who were around three years ago are operating today. Calls to each restaurant showed that 12 have changed hands or closed in the past three years. Quiznos did not dispute the Tribune's findings.

"That's extraordinarily high," said Paul, the restaurant industry consultant, who noted that he wouldn't expect more than 20 percent turnover at most restaurant companies over three years.

What that turnover rate means was debated this week. People sell their restaurants for a host of reasons, Quiznos' Warschauer said. They might want to do something else, or they might get an unbeatable offer for their stores. Turnover does not necessarily indicate a problem, she said.

However, a New Jersey lawyer who has represented Quiznos franchisees against the company, has a different take.

"If these people were so happy with their Quiznos, they wouldn't be getting out and moving on," said Justin Klein, of Red Bank, N.J.

Franchisees 'Get Their Clocks Cleaned' Franklin Green is one of the Quiznos franchisees who has been around for at least three years. He is selling his two downtown Tampa restaurants, at 302 E. Kennedy Blvd. and 506 N. Pierce St.

The Kennedy Boulevard store, which is in the shadows of downtown's office towers, has been a solid financial performer, he said. But the Pierce Street restaurant, across from the old courthouse, tumbled after the county opened its new courthouse on Twiggs Street. Many of his customers were jurors who went elsewhere when the courthouse moved, Green said.

However, Green lays some of the blame for his business' failure on Quiznos. Company officials are slow to return phone calls from franchisees, who often are rookies at running restaurants and need help, he said. Green is under contract to sell both his restaurants, he said. Green wouldn't disclose financial details of the store sales but said he will lose money.

New franchisees "come in, and they don't get the support they need and they get their clocks cleaned," Green said.

How many franchisees are dissatisfied is unclear. Many are frustrated at the way they cannot find a restaurant location, even after they pay Quiznos a $25,000 franchise fee.

Lawsuits Target Location Policy At the moment, a Canadian franchisee is suing Quiznos in Toronto. In the case, he alleges that Quiznos leads people to think they will find a restaurant site within a year. In reality, many franchisees are stuck without a suitable restaurant site for several years, said Ben Hanuka, an attorney representing the franchisee.

"The reality is they've been flooding the market," Hanuka said of Quiznos. "They've been aggressively recruiting franchisees way beyond the capacity of a given market."

Hanuka and his client hope a Toronto judge will make the lawsuit a class-action case to include franchisees in Ontario.

In New Jersey, a group of two dozen franchisees settled their lawsuit with Quiznos last summer, said Klein, the New Jersey lawyer. Like the Canadians, they were unable to find a restaurant site, he said.

Warschauer, the Quiznos spokeswoman, countered that the company wants its franchisees to succeed, and it helps them find suitable locations and open their new restaurants.

To be sure, some local Quiznos restaurant owners seem OK with their investment. Miguel Ruan opened his store on 22nd Avenue North in St. Petersburg in 2002. When he went to a seminar for potential franchisees five years ago, Quiznos implied that he would make $66,000 profit per year.

"I haven't seen that," Ruan said. "But I cannot say that I'm not doing anything. I'm still operating, I'm still doing business."


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: franchises; quiznos
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Small business-ownership helps drive independence and the economy. As one who has had good and bad experiences with franchises; I always keep in mind that a franchise salesman's first goal is to sell a franchise, not to make you a bundle of money.
1 posted on 03/01/2006 6:24:14 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: Sam's Army

Quiznos has a lot of franchises? Have they counted the number of Subway's restaurants recently?


2 posted on 03/01/2006 6:26:41 AM PST by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: Sam's Army
This sounds a lot like Boston Chicken a few years ago - expanding like crazy with franchises and them - pop - bankruptcy for many of them.
3 posted on 03/01/2006 6:29:41 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Sam's Army

P. T. Barnum bump


4 posted on 03/01/2006 6:31:48 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Washington Media: controversy, crap, and confusion" Sen. Alan Simpson)
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To: Sam's Army
Exactly. This is not something to be done alone. Team up with a partner, do your homework, look for a suitable location, decide on where to buy property, then estimate what the costs are for equipment, supplies, rental fees, insurance, overhead, employee expenses and city license fees before you invest. And be prepared to work long hours in this business before you turn a profit. If you're a franchisee prospect looking to get rich quick, Quiznos isn't the sort of venture you should undertake. Your better off dealing with Nigerian scam artists.

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5 posted on 03/01/2006 6:33:25 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I've heard the same sort of complaints from Subway owners. In my neighborhood there must be three of them within a few miles of each other. I know if I had paid for a franchise I'd be awfully steamed if another one opened up that close to my store. Of course, you need to get your territory in writing before you give them your money.


6 posted on 03/01/2006 6:38:55 AM PST by f150driver
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To: Sam's Army

The main problem: too expensive, crappy food.


7 posted on 03/01/2006 6:39:34 AM PST by Crooked Constituent
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To: Sam's Army

Good franchisors are in for the long haul, and plan to make their money through royalties. This requires that both the franchisee and the franchisor make money.

Bad franchisors often expand too fast, focused on getting the franchise fee up front. They often fail to expand the franchisee support structure rapidly enough to keep up with the rate of growth.

A logical inference from this article is that the owners are pushing franchise sales just to push up the selling price of the business, leaving whatever idiot buys it to clean up the mess.


8 posted on 03/01/2006 6:40:45 AM PST by Restorer
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To: Crooked Constituent

I have seen a lot of them go under.


9 posted on 03/01/2006 6:45:15 AM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: Crooked Constituent

They're not cheap, but I disagree about the food. IMO, their sandwiches are much better than Subway.


10 posted on 03/01/2006 6:45:22 AM PST by Denver Ditdat (Melting solder since 1975)
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To: Restorer

As in "Ponzi Scheme"?


11 posted on 03/01/2006 6:47:19 AM PST by bjc (Check the data!!)
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To: f150driver
You don't want competition from a fellow franchisee. So make sure there's no other franchisee within three miles of your territory. You want the area market and its one thing if you have compete with a rival franchise but its a different story if you have to go head to head with a franchise from your own firm.

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12 posted on 03/01/2006 6:48:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Denver Ditdat

DITTO


13 posted on 03/01/2006 6:50:31 AM PST by mountn man (Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic.)
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To: Sam's Army
I've never eaten at Quiznos. Something about that clockwork orange looking rat they used to have as a corporate mascot just really put me off ever trying their food.


14 posted on 03/01/2006 6:51:39 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: Restorer
A classic example was the guy who owned Blockbuster Video.

And the Florida Marlins and Waste Management.

15 posted on 03/01/2006 6:53:14 AM PST by mountn man (Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic.)
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To: Maceman

Yeah, but I love their baby Bob commercials.


16 posted on 03/01/2006 6:54:09 AM PST by mountn man (Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic.)
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To: Crooked Constituent

The food tastes pretty good, and approaches a balanced diet. The price is helped with $2-off coupons in a local monthly circular and elsewhere. I have noticed a bit of employee, maybe management for all I know, turnover, which makes me wonder. My local outlet is not in a cheap location.

p.


17 posted on 03/01/2006 6:56:31 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: Sam's Army
"The reality is they've been flooding the market," Hanuka said of Quiznos.

There are three within a few miles on Rt. 9 Framingham/Marlboro, here in MA.

Dunkin' Donuts is just as saturated, but they seem to be more profitable, since they don't have any competition.

18 posted on 03/01/2006 7:00:39 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Paul_B
Quiznos is about ten times better than Subway, fresher food, toasted, better menu, good dessert items, and they have a pepper bahhhh!

And the mascots were "sponge monkeys".

19 posted on 03/01/2006 7:01:35 AM PST by Williams
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To: goldstategop

"estimate what the costs are for equipment, supplies, rental fees, insurance, overhead, employee expenses and city license fees"

Then double that number. People starting new businesses almost always underestimate their expenses.


20 posted on 03/01/2006 7:12:29 AM PST by Poison Pill
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