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State of the Union: President's Immigration Policy Disappoints Americans (Mildly put.)
Sierra Times ^ | 2/2/2006 | Jim Kouri, CPP

Posted on 02/02/2006 1:50:05 PM PST by FerdieMurphy

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21 posted on 02/02/2006 3:04:27 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: dagnabbit
"Doing nothing is better than Bush's schemes to tear the border even wider open with his permanent amnesty and global labor market for all American jobs"

I see. So YOUR solution is to "do nothing", so you've rendered your own posts to meaningless venom.

22 posted on 02/02/2006 3:06:46 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: One Wing to Rule them All and to the Darkside Bind them)
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To: cake_crumb

What is your point?


23 posted on 02/02/2006 3:12:59 PM PST by SC33
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To: jackbenimble
Baloney. President Bush has at his disposal a whole body of existing current law. If he really wanted to try to do something, he could try enforcing it.

George Bush took an oath of office to faithfully execute the laws of the land. He is the chief EXECUTIVE. It is his constitutional duty to enforce the laws and he has no right to pick and choose those laws he wants to enforce and to ignore those he doesn't personally like. This is what our self-governing system is all about. It is the people's will as expressed through our representatives in legislation that is supposed to decide these matters.

By his ongoing failure to enforce the democratically enacted laws against illegal immigration President Bush has shown his contempt both for democratic self-governance and the American people. His arrogant refusal to perform his constitutional duty should be met with the one remedy provided by the Constitution to protect the people against the usurpation of their legislative authority -- impeachment. It is now well past time for Congress to assert the rights of the American people to self-governemnt

24 posted on 02/02/2006 3:14:35 PM PST by politeia
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To: politeia

Good luck with that impeachment - you do realize that "illegal immigration" is not even in the top ten most important issues for most Americans, right?


25 posted on 02/02/2006 3:51:16 PM PST by clawrence3
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To: kjo

Yes, I agree. This could be the GOP's Waterloo, if they follow the President down this path. And at the moment, it appears they are doing exactly that.


26 posted on 02/02/2006 4:05:09 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: kjo
This is going to kill the GOP in terms of conservative turnout in November.

No, it isn't. Many Conservatives recognize that this is a complicated issue. Porous borders, guest workers, and illegals are different issues. None of which can be corrected with slogans as so many "conservatives" want.

28 posted on 02/02/2006 4:59:16 PM PST by speekinout
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To: FerdieMurphy

Build it NOW! Build it BIG!!


29 posted on 02/02/2006 5:26:59 PM PST by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: FerdieMurphy
President's Immigration Policy Disappoints Americans

Beer Makes You Drunk - details at 11

30 posted on 02/02/2006 6:56:04 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: FerdieMurphy

Where is the Congress in all this??? Congress is the government body that writes the legislation and allocates the dollars, and they are the ones that have sat on their hands throughout this illegal invasion.


31 posted on 02/02/2006 6:58:23 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cake_crumb
"Doing nothing is better than Bush's schemes to tear the border even wider open with his permanent amnesty and global labor market for all American jobs"

I see. So YOUR solution is to "do nothing"

That's obviously not what he said. Minimal reading comprehension is all that's required here.

Yes or no: Is making no change to the current policy better than making a bad change?

32 posted on 02/02/2006 7:26:42 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: speekinout
None of which can be corrected with slogans as so many "conservatives" want.

Please, provide a single example of anyone on this thread, or anyone on this forum for that matter, who's opined that slogans will correct the problem.

33 posted on 02/02/2006 7:29:13 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: speekinout
Many Conservatives recognize that this is a complicated issue. Porous borders, guest workers, and illegals are different issues. None of which can be corrected with slogans as so many 'conservatives' want.

Well said.

34 posted on 02/02/2006 7:44:50 PM PST by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: mtntop3
Well said.

Good, so maybe you can answer the challenge I posed at #33. I'd wager that we won't be hearing much "speakinout" on it from the one I posed it to. These types are usually all bark and no bite.

35 posted on 02/02/2006 8:00:15 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: inquest

What do you think the solution is? Don't tell me that building a fence is it, or that rounding up all illegals is. Both of those are nothing more than slogans.
And I see those posted so many times that I can't believe that you really want me to quote all of them. I'll quote a bunch if that will satisfy you, but I suspect it won't.


36 posted on 02/02/2006 8:12:10 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout
What do you think the solution is? Don't tell me that building a fence is it, or that rounding up all illegals is. Both of those are nothing more than slogans.

So you've redefined the word "slogan" to cover up for your lie. Smooth.

37 posted on 02/02/2006 8:16:56 PM PST by inquest (If you favor any legal status for illegal aliens, then do not claim to be in favor of secure borders)
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To: cake_crumb
Doing nothing = large number of unassimilated third-world migrants in the USA = bad.

Bush Jr. amnesty betrayal schemes = much larger number of such migrants in the USA, de facto merger with Mexico = very much worse.

When the choice is between nothing and greater harm, nothing is a valid option, and unfortunately until weasel immigration leftists like Ted Kennedy and George Bush are no longer calling the shots, that's as good a choice as we're going to get.

This isn't complicated.

38 posted on 02/02/2006 9:41:25 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vicente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: politeia

Failed President Bump.


39 posted on 02/02/2006 9:42:26 PM PST by dagnabbit (Vicente Fox's opening line at the Mexico-USA summit meeting: "Bring out the Gimp!")
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To: FerdieMurphy
I think we are getting some were here. Don't let your hearts be troubled. His proposal is alot better know then it was when he first issued it and Congress is moving our way. Keep up the fight and stop pouting.
40 posted on 02/02/2006 9:48:19 PM PST by Brimack34
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