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Intelligent Design belittles God, Vatican director says
Catholic Online ^ | 30 January 2006 | Mark Lombard

Posted on 01/30/2006 6:37:09 AM PST by PatrickHenry

Intelligent Design reduces and belittles God’s power and might, according to the director of the Vatican Observatory.

Science is and should be seen as “completely neutral” on the issue of the theistic or atheistic implications of scientific results, says Father George V. Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, while noting that “science and religion are totally separate pursuits.”

Father Coyne is scheduled to deliver the annual Aquinas Lecture on “Science Does Not Need God, or Does It? A Catholic Scientist Looks at Evolution” at Palm Beach Atlantic University, an interdenominational Christian university of about 3,100 students, here Jan. 31. The talk is sponsored by the Newman Club, and scheduled in conjunction with the Jan. 28 feast of St. Thomas Aquinas.

Catholic Online received an advanced copy of the remarks from the Jesuit priest-astronomer, who heads the Vatican Observatory, which has sites at Castel Gandolfo, south of Rome, and on Mount Graham in Arizona.

Christianity is “radically creationist,” Father George V. Coyne said, but it is not best described by the “crude creationism” of the fundamental, literal, scientific interpretation of Genesis or by the Newtonian dictatorial God who makes the universe tick along like a watch. Rather, he stresses, God acts as a parent toward the universe, nurturing, encouraging and working with it.

In his remarks, he also criticizes the cardinal archbishop of Vienna’s support for Intelligent Design and notes that Pope John Paul’s declaration that “evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis” is “a fundamental church teaching” which advances the evolutionary debate.

He calls “mistaken” the belief that the Bible should be used “as a source of scientific knowledge,” which then serves to “unduly complicate the debate over evolution.”

And while Charles Darwin receives most of the attention in the debate over evolution, Father Coyne said it was the 18th-century French naturalist Georges Buffon, condemned a hundred years before Darwin for suggesting that “it took billions of years to form the crust of the earth,” who “caused problems for the theologians with the implications that might be drawn from the theory of evolution.”

He points to the “marvelous intuition” of Roman Catholic Cardinal John Henry Newman who said in 1868, “the theory of Darwin, true or not, is not necessarily atheistic; on the contrary, it may simply be suggesting a larger idea of divine providence and skill.”

Pope John Paul Paul II, he adds, told the Pontifical Academy of Sciences in 1996 that “new scientific knowledge has led us to the conclusion that the theory of evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis.”

He criticizes Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schonborn of Vienna for instigating a “tragic” episode “in the relationship of the Catholic Church to science” through the prelate’s July 7, 2005, article he wrote for the New York Times that “neo-Darwinian evolution is not compatible with Catholic doctrine,” while the Intelligent Design theory is.

Cardinal Schonborn “is in error,” the Vatican observatory director says, on “at least five fundamental issues.”

“One, the scientific theory of evolution, as all scientific theories, is completely neutral with respect to religious thinking; two, the message of John Paul II, which I have just referred to and which is dismissed by the cardinal as ‘rather vague and unimportant,’ is a fundamental church teaching which significantly advances the evolution debate; three, neo-Darwinian evolution is not in the words of the cardinal, ‘an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection;’ four, the apparent directionality seen by science in the evolutionary process does not require a designer; five, Intelligent Design is not science despite the cardinal’s statement that ‘neo-Darwinism and the multi-verse hypothesis in cosmology [were] invented to avoid the overwhelming evidence for purpose and design found in modern science,’” Father Coyne says.

Christianity is “radically creationist” and God is the “creator of the universe,” he says, but in “a totally different sense” than creationism has come to mean.

“It is unfortunate that, especially here in America, creationism has come to mean some fundamentalistic, literal, scientific interpretation of Genesis,” he stresses. “It is rooted in a belief that everything depends upon God, or better, all is a gift from God. The universe is not God and it cannot exist independently of God. Neither pantheism nor naturalism is true.”

He says that God is not needed to explain the “scientific picture of life’s origins in terms of religious belief.”

“To need God would be a very denial of God. God is not a response to a need,” the Jesuit says, adding that some religious believers act as if they “fondly hope for the durability of certain gaps in our scientific knowledge of evolution, so that they can fill them with God.”

Yet, he adds, this is the opposite of what human intelligence should be working toward. “We should be seeking for the fullness of God in creation.”

Modern science reveals to the religious believer “God who made a universe that has within it a certain dynamism and thus participates in the very creativity of God,” Father Coyne says, adding that this view of creation is not new but can be found in early Christian writings, including from those of St. Augustine.

“Religious believers must move away from the notion of a dictator God, a Newtonian God who made the universe as a watch that ticks along regularly.”

He proposes to describe God’s relationship with the universe as that of a parent with a child, with God nurturing, preserving and enriching its individual character. “God should be seen more as a parent or as one who speaks encouraging and sustaining words.”

He stresses that the theory of Intelligent Design diminishes God into “an engineer who designs systems rather than a lover.”

“God in his infinite freedom continuously creates a world which reflects that freedom at all levels of the evolutionary process to greater and greater complexity,” he said. “God lets the world be what it will be in its continuous evolution. He does not intervene, but rather allows, participates, loves.”

The concludes his prepared remarks noting that science challenges believers’ traditional understanding of God and the universe to look beyond “crude creationism” to a view that preserves the special character of both.


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KEYWORDS: creationisminadress; crevolist; idjunkscience; ignoranceisstrength
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Everybody be nice.
1 posted on 01/30/2006 6:37:11 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 01/30/2006 6:38:19 AM PST by PatrickHenry (True conservatives revere Adam Smith, Charles Darwin, and the Founding Fathers.)
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To: PatrickHenry

Well, at least if youre going to read Catholic Online maybe youll learn something about Jesus.


3 posted on 01/30/2006 6:40:50 AM PST by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: PatrickHenry

This is a breath of fresh air. Thanks for posting.


4 posted on 01/30/2006 6:43:14 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: wallcrawlr

If I were Catholic I might consider jumping ship.


5 posted on 01/30/2006 6:46:07 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for posting that. I love the smell of rational thought in the morning!


6 posted on 01/30/2006 6:47:54 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: PatrickHenry
He stresses that the theory of Intelligent Design diminishes God into “an engineer who designs systems rather than a lover.”

OK, I kind of like this one. Is it Valentine's Day yet? LOL!!!But this says it better:

“God in his infinite freedom continuously creates a world which reflects that freedom at all levels of the evolutionary process to greater and greater complexity,” he said. “God lets the world be what it will be in its continuous evolution. He does not intervene, but rather allows, participates, loves."

7 posted on 01/30/2006 6:48:43 AM PST by phantomworker (Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...and don't accuse me of your imagination.)
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To: CobaltBlue
'rational thought'

It smells like primordial slime

8 posted on 01/30/2006 6:50:08 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: phantomworker
He does not intervene

His Son would beg to differ

9 posted on 01/30/2006 6:51:08 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: PatrickHenry

I'm Catholic, and I respect Fr. Coyne's scientific contributions, but he is confusing ID and creationism. They are not the same.


10 posted on 01/30/2006 6:54:36 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: phantomworker

Like He threw some dice then smooched them.

Ugh.


11 posted on 01/30/2006 6:55:48 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm still amazed that there are so many people out there who can "see God's hand" in any little natural thing. But somehow in their mind God isn't strong enough, or patient enough, to have done His work over a long period of time.

I believe they worship the words of the Bible more than they worship the God of creation.

12 posted on 01/30/2006 6:55:56 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: narby

The Bible says God's character and attributes can be seen in the creation. Ball in your court.


13 posted on 01/30/2006 6:56:49 AM PST by The Red Zone
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To: The Red Zone

You smooch the dice before you throw them, not after! ;^)


14 posted on 01/30/2006 6:56:54 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: narby
I believe they worship the words of the Bible more than they worship the God of creation.

I do believe you're right.

15 posted on 01/30/2006 6:58:04 AM PST by CobaltBlue (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: The Red Zone
The Bible says God's character and attributes can be seen in the creation.

Yeah. Science has been describing His creation for several centuries now. I think evolution is one of the most elegant, and powerful creations in nature.

16 posted on 01/30/2006 6:59:56 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: PatrickHenry
Father George V. Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory

The opinion of a priest. Nothing more or less.

But I did like "Vatican Director" in the headline. Cute.

17 posted on 01/30/2006 7:00:13 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
The opinion of a priest. Nothing more or less.

The opinion of a Freeper. Nothing more or less.

18 posted on 01/30/2006 7:02:43 AM PST by narby (Hillary! The Wicked Witch of the Left)
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To: PatrickHenry
three, neo-Darwinian evolution is not in the words of the cardinal, ‘an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection;

So does he believe evolution was guided and planned? After reading this I'm not entirely sure. But if he believes that evolution was guided and planned then he believes in a designer also.

19 posted on 01/30/2006 7:03:24 AM PST by plain talk
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

I am a Catholic and admit that the hirearchy is a complete disgrace.

It seems that much of Catholic Church leadership is bound and possessed to the rush and fulfill the requirements for the end of times - namely that the Church be reduced to a reminent.


20 posted on 01/30/2006 7:05:59 AM PST by Pittsburg Phil
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