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JAG temporarily banned Army and Marine Corps snipers from using a highly accurate open-tip bullet.
Washington Times ^ | Jan 20, 2006 | Bill Gertz, Rowan Scarborough

Posted on 01/22/2006 2:35:38 PM PST by radar101

JAG, we are told, mistakenly thought the open-tip round was the same as hollow-point ammunition, which is banned. The original open-tip was known as Sierra MatchKing and broke all records for accuracy in the past 30 years. The difference between the open-tip and the hollow point is that the open tip is a design feature that improves accuracy while the hollow point is designed for increasing damage when it hits a target. About 10 days ago, the Army JAG in Iraq ordered all snipers to stop using the open-tip 175-grain M118LR bullet, claiming, falsely, it was prohibited. Instead of the open-tip, snipers were forced to take M-60 machine gun rounds out of belts and use them instead.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ammo; ammunition; anamericansoldier; armysnipers; bang; banglist; gertz; hollowpoints; iraq; jag; leagalweenies; legalweenies; military; oif; rowanscarborough; shakespearewasright; shysters; sniper; terrorwar; thanksjagoff; waronterror
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1 posted on 01/22/2006 2:35:42 PM PST by radar101
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To: radar101

Kinder, gentler, ammunition...........


2 posted on 01/22/2006 2:37:30 PM PST by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: radar101

It's ok to kill them as long as it doesn't hurt them too bad.


3 posted on 01/22/2006 2:38:19 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: radar101

Well, as long as the "insurgents" are adhering to the rules
so should we.

/sarcasm


4 posted on 01/22/2006 2:38:55 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: radar101

Lawyers. Is there any other tribe so ignorant?


5 posted on 01/22/2006 2:39:49 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: radar101
awww... you left out the best part. After Army lawyers were finally alerted to the JAG's action, the order was lifted and the JAG was notified that the open tip was perfectly legal for use by snipers.
6 posted on 01/22/2006 2:40:42 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: radar101

I don't care about this, as long as no panties were used in the process.


7 posted on 01/22/2006 2:41:26 PM PST by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: radar101

God save us from lawfare ...


8 posted on 01/22/2006 2:41:37 PM PST by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: radar101

Remarkably ignorant mistake for a military lawyer. Sounds like someone was shooting form the hip.


9 posted on 01/22/2006 2:43:59 PM PST by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: radar101

Just wait until they find out about dipping them in pig blood first! Oink..;-)


10 posted on 01/22/2006 2:45:10 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: SandRat

HA! HA!


11 posted on 01/22/2006 2:46:14 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Normal4me

lol !


12 posted on 01/22/2006 2:46:59 PM PST by mosquewatch.com ("The enemy is anyone who will get you killed, no matter what side they are on.")
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To: radar101

Sniper Use of Open-Tip Ammunition


MEMORANDUM FOR COMMANDER, UNITED STATES ARMY SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND

SUBJECT: Sniper Use of Open-Tip Ammunition

DATE: 23 September 1985

http://www.thegunzone.com/opentip-ammo.html

13 posted on 01/22/2006 2:48:06 PM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: radar101
However, the reversal was followed by the Army officials' taking retaliation against a sniper who blew the whistle on the bogus order. The sniper lost his job over a security infraction in reporting the JAG.

He must have bypassed his chain-of-command. I am sure he knew the consequences of his actions....good on him.

14 posted on 01/22/2006 2:48:40 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Bush lied, people dyed....their fingers.)
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To: radar101

The blood sucking attorneys are destroying this nation.


15 posted on 01/22/2006 2:48:42 PM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: atomicpossum

He didn't have the funds to hire an expert witness to tell him what he wanted to hear so he winged it on his own and screwed the pooch again.


16 posted on 01/22/2006 2:49:00 PM PST by jazusamo (A Progressive is only a Socialist in a transparent disguise.)
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To: radar101

So is JAG on the side of the terrorists now...?


17 posted on 01/22/2006 2:52:30 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: radar101

I guess they could use air soft


18 posted on 01/22/2006 2:53:10 PM PST by Steveone (Liberalism is a brain tumor!)
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To: atomicpossum

What's interesting is not only that the JAG has absolutely no combat infantry experience (being a woman) and that she issued an order without the authority to do so, but that the soldier who blew the whistle on her was disciplined for doing so.


19 posted on 01/22/2006 2:53:43 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: radar101
Simple solution.

Simply rename and renumber it.

They'll fall for it. Lawyers are like that, yes they are.

I wonder what kind of "rules" they have for hand-to-hand combat?

20 posted on 01/22/2006 2:53:59 PM PST by elkfersupper
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