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For Muslim women, a deadly defiance ('Honor killings' on rise in Europe)
Boston Globe ^ | 1/16/06 | Colin Nickerson

Posted on 01/17/2006 11:08:27 AM PST by Barney Gumble

BERLIN -- Life was just starting to look up for 23-year-old Hatun Surucu when the bullets cut her down.

After four years of grueling courses in vocational school, coupled with the demands of single motherhood, she was only weeks away from receiving certification as an electrician, a trade that would give her the independence she desperately craved.

It had been a rough road: Eight years earlier, her parents, Turkish immigrants, had yanked Surucu from eighth grade, bundled her off to Istanbul, and forced her to marry an older cousin. Miserable in Turkey, she had fled her husband and returned to Berlin with her infant son, determined to make her own way as a modern woman in a secular society, according to friends.

For a Muslim barely out of girlhood, it was an act of extraordinary defiance against her family. And it cost Surucu her life....

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: deathcult; europeanmuslims; honorkilling; honorkillings; islam; jihad; mohammedan; muslim; muslimwomen; religionofpeace; trop
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RELIGION OF PEACE UPDATE.
1 posted on 01/17/2006 11:08:30 AM PST by Barney Gumble
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To: Barney Gumble

The benefits of a multi-cultural society.


2 posted on 01/17/2006 11:09:34 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Barney Gumble

I've heard of "suicide by cop" so maybe this is "suicide by conversion" what with all these European chicks convertin' and all.


3 posted on 01/17/2006 11:09:41 AM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: Barney Gumble
Click Here! Trust Me! It's Good.

4 posted on 01/17/2006 11:11:51 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Barney Gumble
To me,"islam" is so....9th Century.
5 posted on 01/17/2006 11:12:17 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: Semper Paratus
"As Europe's Muslims become increasingly conservative, growing numbers of women are being killed or mutilated in the name of ''family honor," according to law enforcement agencies, women's activist groups, and moderate Islamic organizations. These cases usually involve an attack on a Muslim woman by a close relative -- typically a brother or father -- angered by her refusal to accept a forced marriage or her insistence on leading a Western-style life."

Note the words "increasingly conservative". Not radicals. Conservatives and growing in numbers ... .
6 posted on 01/17/2006 11:13:36 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: Semper Paratus

The result of one culture that lacks honor, and another that misplaces it. Wrong as it may be, it is still honor (though manifestly evil, I won't argue).

Which society is better -- and does it matter since the former is utterly doomed?


7 posted on 01/17/2006 11:17:37 AM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: Semper Paratus

The benefits of a multi-cultural society.
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Yes, isn't it pretty? HONOR KILLINGS --- another oxymoron for my collection.


8 posted on 01/17/2006 11:19:00 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Barney Gumble

But think of all the 'diversity' they get to celebrate!


9 posted on 01/17/2006 11:19:23 AM PST by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: nmh

Yes.
The socialists and facist leftists of Europe want people to believe that its only a small group of radicals who are commiting all the violent crimes, not that the general muslim population is becoming more conservative and hateful towards europeans.

Idiots would rather watch their country go down in flames and become slaves to Islam, than admit their little experiment in multi-cultrism is a complete and utter failure.


10 posted on 01/17/2006 11:20:15 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Barney Gumble

What I want to read about is the trial and execution of these so called "honor-killings" murderers!


11 posted on 01/17/2006 11:22:29 AM PST by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: Fiddlstix

Nice graphic. Used to see things like that during WWII, you know? I mean, cartoons that belittled or demonized the enemy. Heck, when I was a kid, Bugs Bunny and Daffy duck used to fight/mock the kaiser.

I saw a black and white show the other day, with a young Bob Hope, and he was telling the crowd before the show that a destroyer had been sunk that morning, and he said, and I quote more or less-- "She went down dragging Jap battleships and subs with it", and evertybody cheered. Where are those days?


12 posted on 01/17/2006 11:23:21 AM PST by warpcorebreach
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To: nmh
Note the words "increasingly conservative". Not radicals. Conservatives and growing in numbers ...

reactionary best describes these insecure fiends

One truth about Muslims becomes clearer all the time.

They are insecure about their manhood.

What horrors they must have endured as children!!

13 posted on 01/17/2006 11:23:41 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (expell the fat arrogant carcasses of Congress)
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To: warpcorebreach

Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck are DEFINITELY post-WW ONE. The Kaiser was Germany's monarch until 1918.


14 posted on 01/17/2006 11:30:40 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Semper Paratus

This seems to be what the Democrats and US feminists support. At least they don't openly oppose it.


15 posted on 01/17/2006 11:30:48 AM PST by kjo
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To: Barney Gumble

What a wonderfully peaceful and merciful religon to find honor in the rape and murder of their own children. Just a little bit worse than liberals.


16 posted on 01/17/2006 11:30:56 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: warpcorebreach
Thanks J
You and I must be about the same age. I remember a lot of that too.
17 posted on 01/17/2006 11:46:19 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Bosco; warpcorebreach
I believe he meant Hitler J

BTW. Welcome to FR warpcorebreach J

18 posted on 01/17/2006 11:50:09 AM PST by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Bosco

Yeah, they were just making fun of the krauts.


19 posted on 01/17/2006 11:53:21 AM PST by warpcorebreach
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com

Hate to say it, but Ann Coulter was right.

Time to snuff out this menace.


20 posted on 01/17/2006 12:15:33 PM PST by KingofZion
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