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Coburn: 'The Real Debate Here Is About Roe'
Human Events Online ^ | 10 January 2006 | Senator Tom Coburn

Posted on 01/09/2006 9:14:55 PM PST by Aussie Dasher

The following is Sen. Tom Coburn's (R.-Okla.) opening statement at the confirmation hearings for Supreme Court nominee Samuel Alito.

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Judge Alito, welcome.

I know you're tired of this and I'll try to be as brief as possible.

One of the advantages of going last is to be able to hear what everybody else has said.

And as I've listened today, we've talked about the unfortunate, the frail. The quotes have been "fair shake for those that are underprivileged." We've heard "values, strong, free and fair, progressive judiciary." We've heard "the vulnerable, the more vulnerable, the weak, those who suffer." We've heard of an Alito mold that has to be in the mold of somebody else.

And as a practicing physician, the one disheartening thing that I hear is this very common word, this "right to choose" and how we sterilize that to not talk about what it really is.

I've had the unfortunate privilege of carrying over 300 women who've had complications from this wonderful right to choose to kill their unborn babies. And that's what it is: It's the right of convenience to take the life.

And the question that arises as we use all these adjectives and adverbs to describe our physicians as we approach a Supreme Court nominee is where are we in America when we decide that it's legal to kill our unborn children?

I mean, it's a real question for us. I debate honestly with those who disagree with me on this. It is a real issue, a measurement of our society, when we say it's fine to destroy unborn life who has a heartbeat at 16 days post-conception. Thirty-nine days post- conception you can measure the brain waves and there's pain felt.

The ripping and tearing of an unborn child from his mother's womb through the hands of another, and we say, "That's fine; you have a constitutional right to do that."

How is it that we have a right of privacy and due process to do that but you don't have the right, as rejected unanimously by the Supreme Court in 1997, to take your own life in assisted suicide?

You know, how is it that we have sodomy protected under that due process but prostitution unprotected? It's schizophrenic. And the reason it's schizophrenic is there's no foundation for it whatsoever other than a falsely created foundation that is in error.

I don't know if we'll ever change that. It's a measure of our society.

But the fact is that you can't claim, in this Senate hearing, to care for those that are underprivileged, to those that are at risk, to those that are vulnerable, to those that are weak, to those that suffer and, at the same time, say I don't care about those who have been ripped from the wombs of women and the complications that have come about throughout that.

So, the debate, for the American public -- and the real debate here is about Roe.

We're going to go off in all sorts of directions, but the decisions that are going to be made on votes on the committee and the votes on the floor is going to be about Roe, whether or not we as a society have decided that this is an ethical process, that we have this convenient process that if we want to rationalize one moral choice with another, we just do it through abortion, this taking of the life, of life of an unborn child.

I asked Chief Justice Roberts about this definition of life -- you know, what is life? The Supreme Court can't figure it out or doesn't want us to figure it out; the fact that we know that there is no life if there's no heartbeat and brainwaves. We know that in every state and every territory. But when we have heartbeat and brain waves, we refuse to accept it as the presence of life -- this lack of logic of which we approach this issue because we like and we favor convenience over ethics. We favor convenience over the hard parts of life that actually make us grow.

Senator Brownback talked about those with disabilities that are destroyed in the womb because of a genetic test that is sometimes wrong. I would put forward that we all have disabilities.

Some of us, you just can't see it. And yet, who makes the decisions as to whether we're qualified or not?

We've gone down a road to which we don't have the answers for. That's why we have the schizophrenic decisions coming out of the Supreme Court that don't balance logically with one versus another decision.

So my hope, is as we go through this process, let's not confuse it with the easy words and really be honest and straightforward about what this is about.

I firmly believe that the court should take another direction on many of these moral issues that face us. If we're to honor the heritage of our country, whether it be in terms of religious freedom, whether it be in terms of truly protecting life, protecting not just the unborn but who comes next, the infirm, the elderly, the maimed, the disabled -- that's who comes next as we get into the budget crunch of taking care of those people in the years -- I believe we ought to have that debate honest and openly.

But the fact is, is we're going to cover it with everything except the real fact is we've made a mistake going down that road in terms of saying we can destroy our unborn children and there's no consequences to it.

So I welcome you.

This is a difficult process for you and your family. I am hopeful that you will be treated fairly.

I'm very disturbed at the picture that was painted by Senator Kennedy that you're not a man of your word, that you're dishonest. The implication that you're not reliable I don't think is a fair characterization of what I've read.

And I look forward to you being able to giving answers, as you can, to your philosophy.

The real debate is we've had an activist court, and the American people don't want an activist court. And the real fear from those who might oppose you is that you'll bring the court back within a realm where the American people might want us to be with a Supreme Court; one that interprets the law, equal justice under the law, but not advancing without us advancing, the legislative body advancing, ahead of you.

I welcome you.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 109th; alito; alitohearings; coburn; confirmation; justicealito; lardass; roevwade; scotus; statement; tomcoburn; transcript; ussenate
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This Coburn guy is GOOD! What hope for '08?
1 posted on 01/09/2006 9:14:59 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher
I would vote for him in a heartbeat. I don't know much about the guy, but after reading that I know I love him like a brother.

Actually, after reading that I have a strong hunch that he is my brother, a brother in Christ that is.

2 posted on 01/09/2006 9:23:25 PM PST by epow (I'm not a Christian because I strive to do good, I strive to do good because I'm a Christian)
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To: epow
"Actually, after reading that I have a strong hunch that he is my brother, a brother in Christ that is."

I had the very same feeling. From his statement there are two things we know about him that are certain,.... he's honest, and he has courage--and lots of it.

3 posted on 01/09/2006 9:28:43 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

SPOTREP!!! L'Chaim


4 posted on 01/09/2006 9:28:43 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Thanks for posting this--it's a keeper! Was even better to hear Coburn make this statement during today's hearings.

As Coburn so forcefully pointed out, the abortion debate is about choice alright. You can be on the side of convenience, or CONSCIENCE!

God bless Senator Coburn!

5 posted on 01/09/2006 9:31:29 PM PST by milagro
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To: Aussie Dasher
What a powerful and eloquent statement -- given in a room full of egos and in a context chock-full of boilerplate.
6 posted on 01/09/2006 9:31:54 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: PhiKapMom
Our guy was good today!
7 posted on 01/09/2006 9:33:17 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LiteKeeper

Coburn/Tancredo, Tancredo/Coburns.....oh well, as long as it isn't the McCaine/Guiliani, Rice/McCaine, Graham/Rice bunch of "compassionate conservatives".


8 posted on 01/09/2006 9:35:02 PM PST by 308MBR (After over 20 years of GOP only, I'm voting a split ticket in 'O6 and hoping for gridlock.)
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To: epow
We are now very likely to get a filibuster, simply because of Coburn's statement. He has drawn the line and identified the field of battle.

Alito's nomination is now all about overturning Roe. The left will go ballistic to stop him. The GOP will have to go nuclear to seat him.

I don't know whether that was Coburn's intention, but he has launched a war as surely as the first cannon fired on Fort Sumpter.

9 posted on 01/09/2006 9:38:09 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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Superb. The gentleman from Oklahoma really went above and beyond the call, and I thank him for that.


10 posted on 01/09/2006 9:40:03 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("There they go again...")
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To: epow

It looks like Senator Coburn is one of the few who really gets it. I have always said that the day they show a Partial Birth Abortion on television, is the day that the great ignorance of the masses will be lifted and humanity will return to our great country.... I just hope that someday, someone has the guts to do it.


11 posted on 01/09/2006 9:42:32 PM PST by Kickass Conservative
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To: Aussie Dasher

I am a coburn fan, but would prefer to see him attack socialism than to spend all of his time on roe v wade.

I'm not sure he has the proper priorites.


12 posted on 01/09/2006 9:49:39 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/secondaryproblemsofsocialism.htm)
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To: traviskicks

Roe is a far bigger threat (on a daily basis) to Americans than socialism.

Sounds to me Senator Coburn's priorities are about right.


13 posted on 01/09/2006 9:56:49 PM PST by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: epow

Barbara Boxer begrudges him work while he's in gov't.. He has to work to keep up his skills, pay his malpractice premiums, etc.. And he;s a young man, yet, not independently wealthy like Dr. Frist. He would like to go back to work when he finishes serving the American people. But that witch won't allow it.


14 posted on 01/09/2006 9:59:45 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Aussie Dasher
I agree with you, Coburn would be a good candidate if he wasn't such an outsider.

We need to elect more Coburn types to congress.
15 posted on 01/09/2006 10:03:33 PM PST by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Aussie Dasher

Roe v Wade IS part of the socialist agenda. The socialist threat comes in many forms, and they're not all market-oriented.


16 posted on 01/09/2006 10:04:38 PM PST by AZ_Cowboy ("There they go again...")
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To: Aussie Dasher

This statement is so powerful, yet with no partisan tone to it. Simply presents some basic principles in stark terms.

Wow! When will my Senators Boxie and Dayan learn?

I am so HAPPY to have sent $$$ to Coburn's campaign through Club for Growth!


17 posted on 01/09/2006 10:20:33 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Yes. Socialism and Communism are twin sisters.


18 posted on 01/09/2006 10:23:26 PM PST by indianrightwinger
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To: Aussie Dasher
As Sen. Coburn so boldly proclaimed the truth, so each of us ought to petition the Almighty regarding this matter. We need to PRAY.

"Probably more prayer has been focused on the nation in recent years than at any time in recent decades – including many national (Christian) ministries that have been founded just to pray over the judiciary. I am convinced that God is answering those prayers.

I do believe that Alito is an answer to the prayers of God's people across the nation, and that he is a Justice that America needs on our Supreme Court. I also believe strongly that Alito will definitely shift the Court toward a much more judicially-restrained position; I further believe that he will vote both to limit judicial activism and to stop further federal intrusion into a number of issues, particularly those of faith and morality.

However, my only area of uncertainty is about how willing he is to overturn previous bad precedents. That is, while he is willing to restrict abortions, will he be willing to upend Roe v. Wade? And while he has already demonstrated that he will protect public religious expressions, is he willing to overturn the various Court-concocted tests that have rewritten the First Amendment over the past five decades? I don’t know, and no one but God can say for certain; time will tell. However, I do believe that the confirmation of Alito will represent a major victory and will be a gigantic, positive stride (culturally speaking) in the proper direction."

David Barton
December 1, 2005
Pages 16-17
http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/misc/SamuelAlito.pdf

19 posted on 01/09/2006 10:32:52 PM PST by TruthRespecter
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To: Aussie Dasher
The Dems on the hill are now calling it "the right to privacy"

Howard Dean is calling it "health care for women"

I guess they think if they change the words, no one will notice what they are talking about
20 posted on 01/09/2006 10:35:42 PM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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